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As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn?
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Subject: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Hawker Date: 18 Feb 01 - 01:27 PM I was sat in church with my children this morning and we sang 3 hymns. The third was The Lord's My Shepherd.... and I found myself thinking it is a shame that this hymn is oh so often saved for funerals, I prefer to sing it to Crimmond than the usual chuch version, but it is a lovely hymn. I would be hard pushed to pick a favourite, but I love... There is a green hill far away Brightest and best and MOST of the Christmas carols! What about you lot out there..... What is your favourite hymn? (You don't have to conform to a religion to like hymns!) Happy Sunday, Lucy |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: nutty Date: 18 Feb 01 - 01:36 PM My great-grandmother taught me " The Old Rugged Cross " which I still love although it isn't heard very often these days "Morning is Broken" never fails to bring joy to my heart but the hymns that gave me my love of harmonies, are probably the non-conformist ones - such as " And Can It Be" and "Blessed Assurance" |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Sarah2 Date: 18 Feb 01 - 01:39 PM I still love that Anglican children's hymn, "The Saints of God."
I sing a song of the saints of God ...etc. (It's in the DT, I see.) Sarah |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: nutty Date: 18 Feb 01 - 01:40 PM The Hymn I most love to sing with children has to be THE MAGIC PENNY |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: bflat Date: 18 Feb 01 - 01:55 PM Nutty, if you feel The Magic Penny is a hymn then okay. It was a song written by Malvena Reynolds. I'm no scholar but I doubt it was intended for an audience of children which it certainly has become popularly used among. Two of my favorites are Quaker Hymns: How Can I Keep From Singing and Simple Gifts. Ellen |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Sourdough Date: 18 Feb 01 - 01:55 PM Faith of Our Fathers and Lead on Oh, King Eternal |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Matt_R Date: 18 Feb 01 - 02:15 PM On Eagles Wings Come To The One What Can Seperate Us? You Are Not Alone |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: nutty Date: 18 Feb 01 - 02:16 PM Now that, bflat, is another question -I would not attempt to give a definition of "a hymn" |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Katcina Date: 18 Feb 01 - 02:19 PM In The Garden My Grandma sang it to me when I was little and it still frequently runs through my mind. KatC |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Linda Kelly Date: 18 Feb 01 - 02:37 PM How great thou art and I vow to thee my country (which for someone as unpatriotic as me is a little bizarre, but my brother had it at his weddng and it brings back memories) |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Hawker Date: 18 Feb 01 - 02:39 PM Yep, Love a lot of what has been said myself, and when you start thinking, theres loads (bit like traditional songs really - which they are of a fashion!) Blessed Quietness is another God's Railroad to heaven is another - the tune is the same as Union Miners - and the reference to railroads gives you its age! God's aeroplane is Good fun too Let the light from the lighthouse.... Help!!!I could be here all night!!!! Jerusalem has to be favourite too Oh, and I vow to thee my country Defining a hymn may be a touchy subject! my old man has said the one we knew someone would.....it the opposite to a her (yawn) |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Banjer Date: 18 Feb 01 - 03:58 PM Its hard to pick a favorite! I like most all the gospel hymns, and some that aren't considered church music. One of the latter that jumps readily to mind is Reno & Smiley's 'I'm Using My Bible For A Roadmap' |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: GUEST,Annette Date: 18 Feb 01 - 04:48 PM My favourite is may be not a hymn, but the song with "And we shall build Jerusalem, on Englands green and pastured land". |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Liz the Squeak Date: 18 Feb 01 - 04:59 PM It's Jerusalem, and it's Englands green and pleasant land. My favourite for all sorts of reasons, the main being it's high and loud - Guide me O thou great Redeemer/Jehovah - to Cywm Rhondda. Had it at my wedding, my daughter's christening, my father's funeral, it just fits so many things. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: GUEST,guestguestguest(intruder)pagan Date: 18 Feb 01 - 07:27 PM love church music, hate church... have to put it this way... Amazing Grace Gaudete and that St Patrick song that goes... "hibernia's champion saint all hail, with fadeless glory crowned" and i have been know to celebrate St Swithin's day, april 14 |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: R! Date: 18 Feb 01 - 08:08 PM Pange Lingua and Tantum Ergo have always been favorites of mine. I love the sound of Latin hymns. Jerusalem is good, too. Reen |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: GUEST,kendall Date: 18 Feb 01 - 08:28 PM Let The Lower Lights Be Burning |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Lanfranc Date: 18 Feb 01 - 08:53 PM "Dear Lord and Father of Mankind", sung to CHH Parry's beautiful tune "Repton". "My song is Love Unknown", words by Samuel Crossman (1624-83), setting by John Ireland. IMHO one of the most exquisite marriages of words and music in existence. "Just as I am", to the tune used in "Olivet to Calvary"
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Matt_R Date: 18 Feb 01 - 09:01 PM Oops, it's called "The Love of God", not "What Can Seperate Us". |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Bill D Date: 18 Feb 01 - 09:09 PM "The Halleuja Side"..."Only Remembered".."Will There Be Any Stars in My Crown"....."The White Pilgram"...."Beulah Land"...."Almost Home"....."Gathering Flowers for the Master's Bouquet"..."Meeting in the Air"...."Cabin in the Corner of Gloryland"... and almost anything by Mrs C.S. Morris...Pentacostal shouting and marching at its best! |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: GUEST, WYSIWYG Date: 18 Feb 01 - 10:36 PM Here is the beginning of a wonderful journey through the land of hymnody, not so long ago:
Or in case my clicky failed, paste this URL into your browser: This went to a part Two, and there should be a clicky on to it from the above. Maybe someone will go back into Part Two and add a clicky that comes to this thread, for people to use later on when searching hymn threads. BTW, I was called "Praise" back then but have since had a name change that changed my post entries retroactively. Have fun! ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Burke Date: 18 Feb 01 - 10:48 PM Refer to the old thread for mine. Most of what I sing is hymns or 'spiritual songs' Neither How can I keep from Singing or Simple Gifts are Quaker Hymns. Simple Gifts is a Shaker song. How can I keep from Singing is words by Anne Steele late 1860's with music by Robert Lowry. Lowry's compositions can be found in many evangelical hymnals. The attribution to the Quakers was a mix up by Pete Seeger. |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: alison Date: 18 Feb 01 - 11:37 PM Be thou my vision, and St Pat's breastplate "Christ be in me, Christ within me....." slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Joe Offer Date: 19 Feb 01 - 01:59 AM "Lord of all Hopefulness," which is sung to the tune of "Be Thou My Vision." I dearly love gospel music because it's so much fun to sing, but I have trouble with the theology behind it - so I'm on a crusade to ban it from our Catholic parish. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: nutty Date: 19 Feb 01 - 04:07 AM Joe - I would love you to explain that last comment as I have real difficulty in understanding. The "THEOLOGY" behind Gospel Music????? |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Llanfair Date: 19 Feb 01 - 04:40 AM I'm not a churchgoing christian, but "Jerusalem" gets my vote. |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: InOBU Date: 19 Feb 01 - 10:35 AM The one that stands out in my childhood is... to the tune of Oh Taninbaum... The workers flag, is deepest red, |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: LR Mole Date: 19 Feb 01 - 11:04 AM Psul Theroux in "Saint Jack" has a British funeral in Singapore and mentions how important it is to trill the "r"'s in "Jerusalem":Brrrring me my bow /of burning gold/ Brrring me my arrrows of desire..." Emerson, Lake and Palmer did a nice reading of that. Personally, though, I'm fond of Gregorian chant, a thing not heard in church any more. Kumbaya, my tuchus. |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Feb 01 - 11:10 AM Mole, d'ya know about Taize? ~S~ |
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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: CHATTER WITH THE ANGELS From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Feb 01 - 12:31 PM CHATTER WITH THE ANGELS (spiritual)(/I> (F)Chatter with the angels soon in the mornin' Chatter with the angels in (C7) that (F)land. Chatter with the angels soon in the mornin' Chatter with the angels-- join (C7)that (F)band. I hope to (Bb)join that band and (F)Chatter with the angels all (C7)day (F)long! I hope to (Bb)join that band and (F)Chatter with the angels all (C7)day (F)long! This is all there is in the Wee Sing book I got it from. (Melody's there too, see children's bookstore.) Don't see why it could not grow more verses-- called verse and response. Singin' with the angels soon in the mornin' Singin' with the angels in that land. Singin' with the angels soon in the mornin' Singin' with the angels-- join that band. I hope to join that band, be Singin' with the angels all day long! I hope to join that band, be Singin' with the angels all day long! Praisin' Dancin' Prayin' Laughin' Workin' Lovin' Thinkin' Study Flyin' Marchin' *G* And I guess if we want to drive the chariot and swing low, we bes' be drivin' with the angels too. It's zippy, in 4/4, with lotsa dotted notes to swing the rhythm. Gret for clappin'.... oops, clappin' with the angels... ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: LR Mole Date: 19 Feb 01 - 01:04 PM Taize? My people called it corn. |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Feb 01 - 01:25 PM Mole, LOL! But do you? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: mousethief Date: 19 Feb 01 - 01:40 PM And could it be that I should gain an interest in the Savior's blood? Died he for me who caused his pain? For me, who him to death pursued? Alex
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: DougR Date: 19 Feb 01 - 05:54 PM "Beautiful Saviour," (some hymnals would have it as "Fairiest Lord Jesus") "Amazing Grace," "Abide With Me," "Oh God Our Help In Ages Past" DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Hardiman the Fiddler Date: 19 Feb 01 - 06:47 PM "The Day thou gavest, Lord is ended." Hardiman |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: mousethief Date: 19 Feb 01 - 06:56 PM Also "Harvest Home" -- esp. as sung by Steeleye. Amazing Grace of course. "I know that my redeemer lives." Holy HOly HOly. All hail the power of Jesus' name (the tune in the IVCF Hymns III hymnal, not the traditional tune).
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Penny S. Date: 19 Feb 01 - 06:59 PM I don't know whether I put it in the other threads, but a family favourite is "Thine be the Glory," which my Dad first heard in Belgium during the war, as "A Toi la Gloire, Jesu resutit(?)". We had it at my mother's funeral. I was delighted to hear it on the radio last Sunday - until I heard that the words were entirely different - de-Thou'd and no longer to the Risen Conquering Son. A disappointment (tho' I had sometimes wondered whether Mithras was involved somewhere!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Burke Date: 19 Feb 01 - 07:31 PM A de-Thou'd hymn, not Lutheran by any chance? It looks like Cyber Hymanal has it the way you like it. Thine is (be) the glory Joe, don't try a blanket ban on the gospel hymns, some of them are probably fine. On a individual basis look at them & point out to the priest, or whoever makes the decision, how they are incompatable with Catholic theology (if they are). |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Feb 01 - 07:42 PM Well dang Hardi, then how come you ain't home yet? *G* ~Your Best Wife |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Amos Date: 19 Feb 01 - 07:44 PM I've always liked "Turn Back, O Man, Foreswear Thy Foolish Ways" as a classic example of the kind of misdirected, condescending and contrived sanctimony used by one group of people to round up and control another. And I love the music and primitive tribal feelings of well-done hymns. But for the most part, I can't get myself to like 'em in practice, because they screw up children's heads. Not something I feel should be done. Regards, A |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Burke Date: 19 Feb 01 - 08:08 PM Amos, given that the number of hymns runs into the thousands, that's an awfully blanket condemnation. There are hymns I don't particularly like but there are lots of other songs can screw kids heads up too. There are good hymns as well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Amos Date: 19 Feb 01 - 08:20 PM By gar, yer right. It is a blanket condemnation. I should limit it for the sake of clarity to those hymns, often Christian, which require small children to construct visions of the universe for which they will be unable to find any evidence in experience and which require them to subscribe to paradigms whose sole relevance is authoritarian decree or mass unthinking agreement. That's the kind I meant. Not all of them. My apologies. |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Feb 01 - 09:11 PM Amos, what does it tell you that for three threads' worth of posts now people have been sharing something they have experienced as positive? Do you think that any of that positivity might have been an experience that began in their childhoods? Do you ever ask Christian children what they are experiencing? Do you know any parents actively engaged in Christian parenting? (Mudcatter Susan in California is in your area BTW.) This would not be the place to ask kids what they experience, or hook up with a great number of parents, I suspect, who would want to get into this-- you'd need one on one contact with people who pratice their faith in this way that seems so harmful to you. And an open, inquiring mind-- I know from our friendship that you already have that. Just wondering, though, what is your basis for those evaluations? And what would be the purpose for coming into a thread where people are sharing their love for something, to condemn it? Then, you seem to have said several different things-- first, that some hymns are OK, but then that how they are used makes them wrong-- so in practice they are all wrong.... but then your second post sets a limit of some sort that is not specified-- I don't get it. ~Susan |
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Subject: ADD: The Master's Bouquet From: Bill D Date: 19 Feb 01 - 09:12 PM ok now, Amos...sing along with me: *grin*.(I can't help sort of agreeing with you, and I can't help singing this either, 'cause it sounds so nice on autoharp)... I usually sing it only among adults who have already decided what their view of the universe is, however, so I doubt I mess up anyone's mind. THE MASTER'S BOUQUET Death is an angel sent down from above Sent for the buds of the flowers we love Truly it's so for in Heaven's own way Each soul is a flower in the Master's bouquet
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Feb 01 - 09:18 PM Hell, Bill, I'll sing it with you, if I can play my autoharp along with you. I'm electric, BTW, are you? I'll take the rhythm part. And sing high harmony. What key? ~Susan (waving bye bye....)
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Bill D Date: 19 Feb 01 - 09:46 PM key of G...(you'll notice I keep my face stern and eyes straight ahead, so's I don't give anyone the idea I'm taking the imagery seriously...*grin*) (Bok, Trickett & Muir once introduced a song called "The Middle Class Life is the Best of All" by saying......"you don't have to believe everything you sing" |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Amos Date: 19 Feb 01 - 09:51 PM Well, sing on, ye lambs and chattel. I sure enjoy the music, make no mistake. Good thing you don't have to believe everything you sing! Master's bouquet, indeed! :>) A |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Pete M Date: 19 Feb 01 - 10:06 PM I'm with Amos on this. Now there are a lot of hymns, Christian and other, that are fantastically enjoyable songs; but if we are going to agonise over wether or not to expose children to songs about foxhunting because our agricultural systems have evolved to a point where this is no longer an survival issue for the country worker, and our belief system to the point where we can appreciate that we have responsibilities for the well being of other living creatures and that they were not put on this earth by some god or other for our exploitation; surely it is far more important to consider the underlying concepts behaind the majority of hymns. Now I'm not trying to tell anyone what they should or should not believe, nor what they should or should not sing, but to suggest that because children enjoy what they experience and are 'positive' about it misses the point entirely. We could all bring to mind regimes and belief systems which have cynically exploited the ability to mould the minds of children from the Jesuits to the various factions currently using children as assault troops in central Africa. Having said all that Crimmond, Cwm Rhonnda, and the Evening hymn and last post played as part of Sunset can all bring a lump to my throat in the right conditions. Pete M |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: GUEST,mgarvey@pacifier.com Date: 19 Feb 01 - 10:14 PM Tantum Ergo and O Salutaris. mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: As it is Sunday...Favourite Hymn? From: Amos Date: 19 Feb 01 - 10:15 PM "Good feelings" about mythology do not an effective and compassionate civilization make. Clear, self-powered thinking and self-reliance produce the strength from which people can afford to be open and compasdsionate with each other. I have a vivid memory of a film showing a young boy, blonde haired and earnest, wearing a uniform shirt and neckerchief and lederhosen, singing "The Future Belongs To Me" at the top of his lungs with rest of his jungbunde, and the joy the boys took is singing together was wholesome and charming. Whoesome and charming until you added a more experienced perspective and realized what the said jungbunde was. I am not drawing a parallel between religous training and the Youth Corps; but I am saying that the fact that they may enjoy the experience is not a metric of much value. A |
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