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Subject: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 11 Mar 01 - 04:32 AM

Just a link to an Observer article. The link will no doubt expire in a few days hence the bogus thread title
Shane

- please feel free to practice html here if you wish

Roger


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 11 Mar 01 - 06:26 AM

Another website I just 'found' Niall Keegan
interesting as Nialls website is very musician friendly, just click on the thumbnails of the music and you can view or print the dots


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 11 Mar 01 - 02:56 PM

........just writing a letter to my MP on GATS
which could have sreious effects on the worlds poor


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: Sorcha
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 10:40 PM

ą
Ć
ć
Ĉ


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: Sorcha
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 10:42 PM

£ Ĭ


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: Sorcha
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 10:44 PM

Wonder how high ampersand codes go? The capital I above is 300, trying 400, Ɛ


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 07:23 AM

Sorcha, I don't see any ampersand codes in your HTML but your 300 and 400 are showing on my IE browser but not on Netscape.

I don't know what the range is but computers typically blocks of bytes (8 bits) a single byte gives 2^8 = 256 (0 to 255) values, 2 bytes would be 2^16 = 65536.

Looking at the 2 browsers, I would guess that the range is 0-255. One method computers use in handling out of range numbers is to "wrap round", e.g. On a single byte, 256 would yeild 0, 257 yeilds 1, etc. Maybe IE does that and Netscape treats it as an error.

Jon


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: MudGuard
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 08:46 AM

Jon, sorry, but I have to correct you. In HTML the & codes are two-byte-unicodes, so they go up to 65536 - though not all of the possible codes have a character defined.
And then there is also the problem that not every font has every character defined - most fonts only have latin characters.
But think of all the chinese, japanese, thai, sanskrit, cyrillic, greek... characters (apart from our latin characters).
MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 09:25 AM

Why say sorry Mudguard? I'd rather be corrected and have the right information - thanks!

Jon


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 09:46 AM

Anyone know where I can find a chart to print out of what all of the codes are for special characters? I figured a few out, randomly, by pressing NumLock, Alt - 0 - and three numbers, as in Alt -0-169 to get this: ©

My software has a place where the codes are supposed to be, but they've never been there and I've been unable to find them elsewhere.

Thanks,

kat


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: Snuffy
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 10:07 AM

I think the &-codes are not standardised - different language sets use the same code for different characters, and different browsers interpret them differently.

This is why you often get funny characters in Gaelic lyric postings, especially from Loki. If you want a fada it's safer to post à (à) than a number code.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: MudGuard
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 11:23 AM

The unicode characters are standardized. The problems come from the high characters of the first page characters (128-255) which are codepage dependant. If a page uses characters from this range it needs a codeset specifier (which is often omitted --> problems) like:
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">

Jon, I said sorry because I like you and I did not like proving you wrong ;-)

MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 11:32 AM

Like me, you poor fool! O well, have a pint for me in the German get together.

Jon


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: MudGuard
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 11:39 AM

I will, Jon!


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: MudGuard
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 11:40 AM

Or at least the equivalent - we have the metric system over here, so no pints...


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 11:53 AM

kat, here is one table. If you do a Google search, you'll come up with a lot of choices, you might find one you like better.

Jon, my 10:40PM post above is 261-264.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: aussiebloke
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 01:39 PM

G'day Cat

I had to thinks about yer question and found meself with possibly far more infoblah than you require, I hope you don't mind if'n I divide it into two questions (Word & html) and then piggyback some other stuff here, I don't wanna 'teach grandma how to suck eggs' neither - but I got my own point to make and an agenda as well, both of which I'll come to d'rekly...

Do you want to know how to get these special characters onto something you are typing in Word, say - or are you wanting the html codes to use so that they will display correctly in a browser say, a Mudcat thread, thus: bodhrán. Two different animals, and I'll give yez the drum on how to do both.

Google found lotsa info on both Word and html special characters - but what I really think you were after in this instance is info on how to generate them on a key-board while typing in Word. In Windows/Microsoft it seems that they mostly (?all) are initiated by the Alt key, followed by four characters. If'n you are on a PC - you will also be able to access these Special Character Keystrokes from the accessory Character Map (Click START - then PROGRAMS - then ACCESSORIES - should be there somewhere.)

Go to START, click on FIND and type CHARMAP if'n it ain't where it should be and you get desperate...

Anyways, find your Character Map wherever it happens to be hidden on your particular machine and fire it up - it may help to know which font you are using in your Word Processor, then selecting and matching the font you are going to use from the fontlist in Character Map. This way you will can find the appropriately fontmatched special character.

By way of example: If you are typing in Timesblah in your word processor - it might be that ye'll get best results from the keyboard shortcut codes from the matching font - in this case Timesblah - get 'em on display on the Character Map. Click the desired special character from the table of all sortsa groovy characters, including the now almost legendary lower-case-a-with-an-acute-accent; and the Alt+blah codes desired will be displayed in the Character Map status bar - you can key 'em in at Word now that you know 'em, or cut and paste direct from Character Map to Word. You might wanna make a note of yer favourite Alt+blah codes till you memorize 'em, or just to keep handy, like.

You can also insert on your Word page the lower-case-a-with-an-acute-accent and all its' funky special character cousins by pulling down the 'Insert' menu - and looking for 'Symbol' - your mileage may vary.

Alt+0225 is the Word processor keyboard shortcut code for the fairly handy lower-case-a-with-accent-acute - á and

&-#-2-2-5 (without the hyphens) is the html code to display the extremely useful lower-case-a-with-accent-acute - in a browser - á.
For the first time I've just noticed that these numbers match -225- any officially smart person wanna comment on this phenomenon? But I digress...

As a shameless-player-of-the-bodhrán-in-public, can you see where I'm going with this fellow travellers?

Special Characters in Word Processing
Accents, Diacriticals and Special Language Characters for Foreign Languages

Special Characters on the web
Table of html codes

So, now you know. The next time one of you misses the lower-case-a-with-an-acute-accent in the name of that round drum thingy that I play, either in print or on the web - my Auntie will come 'around to your house, and she'll rip yer bloody arms orf, and she will, too...

cheers

aussiebloke




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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 01:43 PM

Thank you, thank you, thank you!! I knew they were different critters, but couldn't find the ones for Word!!


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: aussiebloke
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 02:47 PM

Yer welcome...


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: MudGuard
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 04:49 PM

aussiebloke, you got it almost right.

The character codes have to be finished with a semicolon. as in &#225; for á.

IE accepts the codes without the semicolon (as it accepts many things that don't have to do with HTML), but HTML demands the semicolon.

And as I stated before, what gets displayed for character codes between 128 and 255 depends on the encoding of the page.

MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: aussiebloke
Date: 24 Mar 01 - 09:04 PM

'Bother' said Pooh, and well-spotted MudGuard - thanks...

I did have a semi-colon there at some part of the history of the development of my post, it became 'edited to oblivion' somewhere between 0300 and 0400. Mea culpa. The devil is in the details.

So that's bodhr-&-#-2-2-5-;n then, to present the name of my drum thingy in html coding in IE and Netscape. (remove the hyphens)

cheers

aussiebloke


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 06:23 PM

What an ignorant, miserable, bad-taste, narrow-minded bundle of responses. Not a one mention of Shane McG between them! Anyway Roger, never mind practising HTML, how are you getting on with that Overton low D?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Mar 01 - 04:53 PM

What a wise and wonderful crowd you are. And now I know what HTML's for, too.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: bill\sables
Date: 30 Mar 01 - 05:33 PM

To get you badge click here


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: bill\sables
Date: 30 Mar 01 - 05:35 PM

Try Again click here


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: Amos
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 08:33 PM

300: Ĭ
350: Ş
400: Ɛ
450: ǂ
500: Ǵ
999: ϧ
1500: ל


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Subject: RE: HTML practice : Shane MacGowan
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 08:54 PM

For Microsoft Win 95/98 users (it may be on other systems - I don't know as I don't have one)

there is something called "Character Map" application - it may not be currently installed - try a search in your Find from the Start button - look for "character" or "map" or both words - I added a link to it that is in a convenient "text tools" submenu I added off the start menu.

but you can add it from your CD - go to
Control Panel - Add/remove programs - Windows setup

once it has indentified your existing setup - you can add or remove certain accessories from your Windows CD.

the tool allows you to specify the font, see all the characters in the font, and cut and paste them into any open window - including your browser text entry window, like here...

Robin


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: John Routledge
Date: 06 May 04 - 01:53 PM

newcastleton.com


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 May 04 - 09:27 PM

M E T A H T T P - E Q U I V = " P r a g m a " C O N T E N T = " n o - c a c h e "

ensures that latest copy of page is got from the source.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: JennyO
Date: 06 May 04 - 10:04 PM

On my computer, I found the character map by clicking on Start-all programs-system tools.

My first effort - bodhrán. Not much I know, but as they say, one small step......


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 02:56 AM

Hey, is this thing working?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Mr Red
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 06:12 PM

cut and paste from Word - it has a character map. You can prepare offline and get a spell check too. The word character feature is easier to read too.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 06:26 PM

but if you have AllChars, you have it all at your fingertips, without Word's resource drain or cutting & pasting...


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: John Routledge
Date: 26 Sep 04 - 03:05 PM

How about this site hello


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Sep 04 - 05:29 PM

John...you didn't put in the http://


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Sep 04 - 05:31 PM

it needs to look like this


<a href=http://www.grovefolkclub.org.uk>hello</a>


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: John Routledge
Date: 26 Sep 04 - 06:41 PM

http://www.grovefolkclub.org.uk


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: John Routledge
Date: 26 Sep 04 - 06:47 PM

Thanks Bill. I now am now finally a fully fledged Mudcatter :0)


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Sep 04 - 07:10 PM

great, John! *grin*...I remember the first time I was able to do that...I copied the 'code' into a file, like a vault combination, afraid I'd never do it again...


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Mr Happy
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 09:53 AM

sausages


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 09:58 AM


Are you here for HTML practice?


SRS


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 11:46 AM

He may be...or perhaps he was watching laws made, and decided to add sausages


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 11:49 AM

ahhh...upon study, I see it was an attempt to post in the Caslon font, which, of course, depends on one having that font installed.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 12:12 PM

about fonts


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 12:22 PM

Ooooh, Bill, you've been peeking at his source code!

He didn't have the font "caslon" in quotes and there was a space between "face" and "caslon", i.e., face= caslon> , so it didn't appear.

sausages

I don't have that font, so it didn't look like anything.

sausages

sausages

sausages

These fonts I know I have, though. (garamond, arial, comic sans ms)

SRS


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Mr Happy
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 12:57 PM

....... , egg & chips


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 01:31 PM

You formatted it correctly, I see by your code, and you can probably see it on your computer because YOU have the font IN YOUR COMPUTER. But this doesn't seem to be a commonplace font, so we can't see it because it isn't in any programs in our computers. Our computers are selecting to display the default font for the page.

Try it with a font I named above, one that is more likely to be in our computers so we can see that you've got it.

comic sans ms
garamond
arial
tahoma

these are all commonplace.

SRS


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 02:17 PM

You mean I can't post in Linear B???


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 02:55 PM

Why of course you can!

(don't know how many other than ME will see it, though)


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 03:35 PM

Interesting! I have about 8000 fonts ....but I don't seem to have Caslon installed, or even in the list of uninstalled fonts in other directories.
I'll bet I do have it on a disk somewhere, but I am surprised it is not 'up front'.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Mr Happy
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 08:08 AM

½


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Mr Happy
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 08:38 AM

HTML practice


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 11:41 AM

testing

HTML practice


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 11:46 AM

Mr Happy- I looked at SRS code from earlier, and she had it a bit differently-



<font face="comic sans ms">HTML practice</font>

It may be that lower case & quotation marks are required...and it says "font face" instead of just "font"


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 11:55 AM

I don't do this very often, so I just tried changing small things until it worked.

(I use 'different' fonts to make little signs I am going to print, or to control how I read web pages. In the menu settings of a browser, you can control which font(s) you see when you read Mudcat. This is different from the font you might specify for a particular post where you want others to see something like Comic Sans))


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 12:01 PM

For example, I have my Opera browser currently set to show me pages in a font called "Palatino Linotype", which I think is kind of elegant.
I used to use "Georgia", which almost everyone should have, as it is a Microsoft standard.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 12:46 PM

The browser will only display fonts that it knows about, so if you want a font to have a different appearance from the default font on most readers' screens, then play it safe and use the most common fonts. If you choose some way out look and someone without the font opens it, they may see an Arial or Times New Roman in its place.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: open mike
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 01:11 PM

and SRS has the invisible ink typewriter ribbon in her keyboard...

i wonder how to do colored and moving text??


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 06:28 PM

Colored is relatively easy... moving text depends partly on the operating system.

see here for colors

here for 'style', which includes moving text..(marquee)

You can cheat like I do for color (and several other tricks) and use
HFC font colorizer


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Mr Happy
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 06:17 AM

Bill D,

Thanks so much for your helpfulness with formatting,

Cheers,

Mr H


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Mr Happy
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 06:18 AM

Automatic Linebreaks


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 11:13 AM

Marquee is a wonderful tool


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 12:04 PM

oh, it is...except that, as I mentioned, Marquee doesn't work everywhere...I can see it fine in Firefox, but it won't move in Opera, and I don't see any setting to allow it to.

What is the other format that is sometimes used? scroll?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 12:10 PM

Answering my own problem...maybe...

how to control marquee

"Note: On some browsers, the LOOP parameter does not work properly if DIRECTION="RIGHT".

and several more warnings about 'some' browsers....

He sure shows how amazing Marquee can be!


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Mr Happy
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 07:32 AM

CE


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Jack Campin
Date: 21 May 10 - 03:13 PM

Testing a different way to do ABC in HTML.

X:4
T:Scholion of Seikilos
M:6/8
L:1/8
Q:3/8=44
V:1
V:2 transpose -12
V:3 bass middle=d transpose -24
K:AMix
[V:1] Ae2 e3   |(cde) d3 |c2d e(dc)|cA2 (BG2) |
[V:2] AA2 A3   |(AGA) G3 |A2G A(GA)|AE2 (GD2) |
[V:3] A3 A3   | A3   G3 |A2G A3   |A3   G3    |
%
[V:1] Ace d(cd)|cA2 (BG2)|AcB dec |AA2 A(FE)|]
[V:2] AAA G G2 |AE2 (GD2)|E2G GA2 |EE2 A,A,2|]
[V:3] A3 G3   |A3    G3 |A2G GA2 |A3   A3   |]


Yay! That's better! Monospaced and no leading spaces.

Put the ABC inside <code> ... </code> tags.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Jack Campin
Date: 21 May 10 - 03:29 PM

Actually it doesn't quite work - some of the spaces stay as spaces, others are replaced by &nbsp; codes, so the alignment of voice 3 got buggered up. I wonder whether my previewing it did that? Trying again with no preview:


X:4
T:Scholion of Seikilos
M:6/8
L:1/8
Q:3/8=44
V:1
V:2 transpose -12
V:3 bass middle=d transpose -24
K:AMix
[V:1] Ae2 e3   |(cde) d3 |c2d e(dc)|cA2 (BG2) |
[V:2] AA2 A3   |(AGA) G3 |A2G A(GA)|AE2 (GD2) |
[V:3] A3 A3   | A3   G3 |A2G A3   |A3   G3    |
%
[V:1] Ace d(cd)|cA2 (BG2)|AcB dec |AA2 A(FE)|]
[V:2] AAA G G2 |AE2 (GD2)|E2G GA2 |EE2 A,A,2|]
[V:3] A3 G3   |A3    G3 |A2G GA2 |A3   A3   |]


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Jack Campin
Date: 21 May 10 - 03:31 PM

Nope, still buggered up. This needs work.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: OldPossum
Date: 21 May 10 - 03:40 PM

If you wish to align some text perhaps it is better to use the <PRE> </PRE> tags?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 May 10 - 03:55 PM

I hadn't seen the <code> tags before. That makes three tags that make a monospaced font:
    <code>
    <pre>
    <tt>
How are these tags different from each other in function?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Jack Campin
Date: 21 May 10 - 04:42 PM

It seems to be dependent both on the browser reading it and on the software that processes submitted HTML.

<tt> should just change the font but not the formatting - things should get justified just as usual for HTML text. You don't want ABC justified. Mudcat inserts <br> linebreaks when within <tt> tags, which is non-standard but in this instance helpful.


X:1
T:Scholion of Seikilos
M:6/8
L:1/8
Q:3/8=44
K:AMix
Ae2 e3   |(cde) d3 |c2d e(dc)|cA2 (BG2) |
Ace d(cd)| cA2 (BG2)|AcB dec |AA2 A(FE)|]


<pre> should mean that what you enter gets reproduced with exactly the layout you typed, but on Mudcat it doesn't - each line gets prefixed with a space (which buggers up ABC). This is probably fixable at Mudcat's end. I can't imagine any reason why it might be a good idea, ever.


X:1
T:Scholion of Seikilos
M:6/8
L:1/8
Q:3/8=44
K:AMix
Ae2 e3   |(cde) d3 |c2d e(dc)|cA2 (BG2) |
Ace d(cd)| cA2 (BG2)|AcB dec |AA2 A(FE)|]


<code> sets Mudcat off on an orgy of converting spaces to &nbsp; codes. I can't imagine why.


X:1
T:Scholion of Seikilos
M:6/8
L:1/8
Q:3/8=44
K:AMix
Ae2 e3   |(cde) d3 |c2d e(dc)|cA2 (BG2) |
Ace d(cd)| cA2 (BG2)|AcB dec |AA2 A(FE)|]


So, for ABC the way I do it, <tt> looks like the best bet. (Look at the source for this page to see exactly what Mudcat's message-processing front end does).

I was led down this road by another board that doesn't support HTML in posts directly, but instead uses BBCode. In that environment, [code] ... [/code] works well (nothing else does), so it seemed worth trying the HTML equivalent here.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 May 10 - 09:41 PM

I was just mentioning to katlaughing the other day that we haven't seen anyone run an HTML practice thread for a while. Usually, they look something like


T
    h
          i
               s . . . .
                         :-D


(If one forgets to close the marquee command, the whole lower screen scrolls past when you test it. Quite amusing to watch, but it doesn't do that when you actually post it, I don't think.)


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Bert
Date: 22 May 10 - 11:04 AM

I'm thinking of creating a website where songwriters can sell downloads of their work. Does anyone know the best way to do this. I can do the download bit but how do I protect it so that buyers have to pay first?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: frogprince
Date: 11 Feb 11 - 12:13 AM

is this how to © something?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Feb 11 - 01:31 AM

You betcha, Frogprince. And to trademark something, it's &trade; = ™
&reg; = ®

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 11 Feb 11 - 01:56 AM

Although I may have offended Awful I mean Arful - no it's Artful Codger in "his" thread, I've just posted a listing of "named entities" at Escapes that might be useful.

The named entities are those characters that can be posted in the form:

&name;

rather than by the character number (decimal) as:

&#nnn;

or by the character number (hex) as:

&#xhhhh;

John


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Feb 11 - 11:53 AM

There are some of these things that are easy to cut and paste. I dragged this little page to my toolbar in my browsers.

http://thenextweb.com/TwitterKeys Follow the link to get the bookmarklet. You don't need to use Twitter to use these.





SRS


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 11 Feb 11 - 01:12 PM

Hex character numbers from 2600 to 2731, format &#Xhhhh;

☀         ☁          ☂          ☃          ☄          ★          ☆          ☇          ☈          ☉          ☊          ☋          ☌          ☍          ☎          ☏          ☐          ☑          ☒          ☓          ☔          ☕          ☖          ☗          ☘          ☙          ☚          ☛          ☜          ☝          ☞          ☟          ☠          ☡          ☢          ☣          ☤          ☥          ☦          ☧          ☨          ☩          ☪          ☫          ☬          ☭          ☮          ☯          ☰          ☱          ☲          ☳          ☴          ☵          ☶          ☷          ☸          ☹          ☺          ☻          ☼          ☽          ☾          ☿          ♀          ♁          ♂          ♃          ♄          ♅          ♆          ♇          ♈          ♉          ♊          ♋          ♌          ♍          ♎          ♏          ♐          ♑          ♒          ♓          ♔          ♕          ♖          ♗          ♘          ♙          ♚          ♛          ♜          ♝          ♞          ♟          ♠          ♡          ♢          ♣          ♤          ♥          ♦          ♧          ♨          ♩          ♪          ♫          ♬          ♭          ♮          ♯          ♰          ♱          ♲          ♳          ♴          ♵          ♶          ♷          ♸          ♹          ♺          ♻          ♼          ♽          ♾          ♿          ⚀          ⚁          ⚂          ⚃          ⚄          ⚅          ⚆          ⚇          ⚈          ⚉          ⚊          ⚋          ⚌          ⚍          ⚎          ⚏          ⚐          ⚑          ⚒          ⚓          ⚔          ⚕          ⚖          ⚗          ⚘          ⚙          ⚚          ⚛          ⚜          ⚝          ⚞          ⚟          ⚠          ⚡          ⚢          ⚣          ⚤          ⚥          ⚦          ⚧          ⚨          ⚩          ⚪          ⚫          ⚬          ⚭          ⚮          ⚯          ⚰          ⚱          ⚲          ⚳          ⚴          ⚵          ⚶          ⚷          ⚸          ⚹          ⚺          ⚻          ⚼          ⚽          ⚾          ⚿          ⛀          ⛁          ⛂          ⛃          ⛄          ⛅          ⛆          ⛇          ⛈          ⛉          ⛊          ⛋          ⛌          ⛍          ⛎          ⛏          ⛐          ⛑          ⛒          ⛓          ⛔          ⛕          ⛖          ⛗          ⛘          ⛙          ⛚          ⛛          ⛜          ⛝          ⛞          ⛟          ⛠          ⛡          ⛢          ⛣          ⛤          ⛥          ⛦          ⛧          ⛨          ⛩          ⛪          ⛫          ⛬          ⛭          ⛮          ⛯          ⛰          ⛱          ⛲          ⛳          ⛴          ⛵          ⛶          ⛷          ⛸          ⛹          ⛺          ⛻          ⛼          ⛽          ⛾          ⛿          ✀          ✁          ✂          ✃          ✄          ✅          ✆          ✇          ✈          ✉          ✊          ✋          ✌          ✍          ✎          ✏          ✐          ✑          ✒          ✓

Does anybody see anything other than "unk" chars.

John


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Feb 11 - 12:22 AM

Lots of rectangles, but quite a few images also.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 12 Feb 11 - 11:36 AM


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 Jul 11 - 08:31 PM


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 Jul 11 - 08:37 PM

☁ ☃ ☲


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 02 Jul 11 - 08:39 PM

Does anybody see anything other than "unk" chars.

A very late reply but Fierefox gives a little box with the code in for "unk". Missing for me are:

269E-269F,
26BD-26BF,
26CD-2700,
2705,
270A-270B


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 Jul 11 - 11:06 PM

Thanks, Jon. Others (me) appreciate your post.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 11:39 AM

(¯`•´¯)...............。☆。*。☆。
`•.,(¯`•´¯)..........★。\|/。★
(¯`•´¯).•´(¯`•´¯).♥ Happy Birthday!
..` •.•´(¯`•´¯).....★。/|\。★
...`•.,(¯`•´¯)........。☆。*。☆


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 11:40 AM

(¯`•´¯)...............。☆。*。☆。
`•.,(¯`•´¯)..........★。\|/。★
(¯`•´¯).•´(¯`•´¯).♥ Happy Birthday!
..` •.•´(¯`•´¯).....★。/|\。★
...`•.,(¯`•´¯)........。☆。*。☆


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 11:41 AM

(¯`•´¯)...............。☆。*。☆。
`•.,(¯`•´¯)..........★。\|/。★
(¯`•´¯).•´(¯`•´¯).♥Happy Birthday!
..` •.•´(¯`•´¯).....★。/|\。★
...`•.,(¯`•´¯)........。☆。*。☆


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Subject: RE: HTML practice
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 01:15 AM

The following characters from the Unicode "Miscellaneous Symbols" page, Hex Range 2600 - 26FF display correctly in the mudcat preview in my IE9 browser.
No other characters on that particular Unicode page are displayed (in preview in my browser).
First char is coded &#x2600;
Last displayed char is coded &#x267D;
Approximately a half dozen between those two also failed to show and were deleted.
Note that the ☐ (a blank square) is the glyph defined by the chart, and is not an "undefined char" marker.

Following set to <font size=5>

              ☀       ☁       ☂       ☃       ☄       ★       ☆       ☇       ☈       ☉       ☊       ☋       ☌       ☍       ☎       ☏       ☐       ☑       ☒       ☓       ☖       ☗       ☚       ☛       ☜       ☝       ☞       ☟       ☠       ☡       ☢       ☣       ☤       ☥       ☦       ☧       ☨       ☩       ☪       ☫       ☬       ☭       ☮       ☯       ☰       ☱       ☲       ☳       ☴       ☵       ☶       ☷       ☸       ☹       ☺       ☻       ☼       ☽       ☾       ☿       ♀       ♁       ♂       ♃       ♄       ♅       ♆       ♇       ♈       ♉       ♊       ♋       ♌       ♍       ♎       ♏       ♐       ♑       ♒       ♓       ♔       ♕       ♖       ♗       ♘       ♙       ♚       ♛       ♜       ♝       ♞       ♟       ♠       ♡       ♢       ♣       ♤       ♥       ♦       ♧       ♨       ♩       ♪       ♫       ♬       ♭       ♮       ♯       ♰       ♱       ♲       ♳       ♴       ♵       ♶       ♷       ♸       ♹       ♺       ♻       ♼       ♽
(</font>)

John


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