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Subject: Talking To Americans From: GUEST,Rick Mercer Date: 31 Mar 01 - 01:16 PM Want to see how stupid Americans really are? Watch my special, "Talking To Americans," Sunday night at 9:00, 9:30 here at home, on CBC-TV. |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: Amos Date: 31 Mar 01 - 01:20 PM Well, mate, those of us who live over here are quite aware that there are stupid people among us. Do you have some special reason for thinking this is an inherent aspect of our national character, as distinguished from being an attribute of any human population greater than 1 (or perhaps you haven't experienced any)? Or are you just being a smartass jerkoff whose mouth is bigger than his brain? Regards, A |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: Peg Date: 31 Mar 01 - 01:34 PM merci beaucoup, Amos. Slainte.
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: mousethief Date: 31 Mar 01 - 01:42 PM All Americans are stupid jerks and all Canadians are arrogant assholes, I've been told. Don't tell me I was told wrong? Alex |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: gnu Date: 31 Mar 01 - 01:45 PM Dear Rick Mercer : I have enjoyed much of your work, especially at 22 Minutes. However, I find your 22 Minutes' segments entitled "Talking To Americans" not only childish and distasteful, but, more often than not, obviously contrived and poorly edited. You would be wise to drop this... this... ok, I'll say it, utter fucking nonsense which alienates not just the Yanks, but any and all Canadians with two clues. I must add, though, on the other side of the coin, the segment with Bush during the campaign was priceless because it was not contrived nor childish, but, rather, showed how ignorant the new president really is. Maybe we could do a show entitled, "Talking to Rick's Newfie Buddies" ? Give 'er up, bye - she's just nare funny ! ashamedgnu from New Brunswick |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: mousethief Date: 31 Mar 01 - 01:48 PM Nothing like stirring up cross-border rivalries. Maybe he's trying to start a war? Not sure what that would accomplish, though. If I recall, the last war between us (The Pig War, mid 1800s, between Washington and B.C.) ended it something of a draw. Alex |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 31 Mar 01 - 01:52 PM Yes, Alex, you were told wrong. Rick: I guess I am stupid, because I find your post most confusing. When you say watch your show "here" do you mean in your country (whatever that may be)? When you say "9, 9:30" do you mean 9 or 9:30? Is that your time? If so, what zone are you broadcasting from? And what is CBC-TV? I haven't had a TV in my home since 1958, so I am not hep to the jive re TV. (If you hang around folkies much, you will find that not bothering with TV is quite common.) Well, gotta run. It's too nice a day to waste on people like you. |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: mousethief Date: 31 Mar 01 - 01:57 PM Boy, we've been insulted by the best, it seems. Hey, gnu, if it's any consolation, you don't seem like an arrogant asshole at all, and I'm willing to disbelieve what I was told simply on your evidence! Alex |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: gnu Date: 31 Mar 01 - 01:58 PM Then we're still ahead. Careful, or we'll piss in your water. I'm serious. If you don't stop courting the PQ, we'll have no recourse but to separate THEIR ass and take back the water resources that will eventually feed the eastern seaboard of the US... the largest civil engineering project the world has ever seen is underway and has been for a lot of years. You may have seen it in Ahhnold's movie where the german guy steals a whack of gold and transports it through the water supply tunnels. This system will eventually be fed from northern Quebec... er, Old Quebec. gnu |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: mousethief Date: 31 Mar 01 - 02:00 PM Who was that to, Gnu? I'm not courting Quebec. And y'all shit in my water, well, the citizens of Victoria, BC do. Which really hacks us off here in Washington State. So we try to steal all your fish. Heck, maybe the Pig War never really ended. But I'll still say to anybody who listens that Vancouver, BC is the most beautiful city in the world. Alex |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: gnu Date: 31 Mar 01 - 02:03 PM mousethief said.... Hey, gnu, if it's any consolation, you don't seem like an arrogant asshole at all, and I'm willing to disbelieve what I was told simply on your evidence! Hey... watch it ! Widen your sample size before you do any analytical stats. They're all around us, Yanks and Canucks both. Keep looking over your shoulder ! warygnu |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: wdyat12 Date: 31 Mar 01 - 02:12 PM Rick, Doesn't look like your show is getting any rave reviews yet, but the show hasn't even aired. I think those of us who haven't seen this special should reserve judgement. I don't watch TV much, but I will try to tape it. I still like going to the movies and Sunday night I will be watching "O Brother, Where Art Thou" for the second time. Good luck Rick. wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Mar 01 - 02:14 PM Yeah, Alex, it is a wonderful town - but last time I was in Vancouver, I went to Mass and the priest gave his sermon and talked mostly about Americans. Is that all they talk about up there? -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: gnu Date: 31 Mar 01 - 02:29 PM Alex... that was to Yanks in general. Your political leaders are courting the PQ's, Parti Quebecois, who have just won another election in La Belle Province and have vowed, AGAIN, to separate. Not two clues twixt the lot. But politics is politics, you know. Whoever can separate the big Q from Canada will be rich beyond their wildest dreams over the water rights alone. IF... IF .... IF they can leave without fulfilling the agreement they signed when they entered confederation, which is to relinquish Ungava and Prince Rupert's Land. Anyway, it's a political type thread topic and it's extremely upsetting to every single Canadian, PQ's with no brains included, so that's the end of my discussing it. 'Cept to say that Jacques Parizeau said there would be a fight if Canada tried to redraw Quebec's borders and I agree with him... he jus' don't know what kinda fight he's in for. The last time they they tried that crap, in 1973, they had the barrel of a gun shoved WAY UP THEIR COLLECTIVE ASSES. tryingtocalmdowngnu |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: Big Mick Date: 31 Mar 01 - 02:33 PM See.......where I come from........even though we are just iigggnereant........Canadians are also Americans.......but then we are taught to be literal.....ya know......words have meaning and all that........ But, at any rate, this poor child has a day job as a flamer. This is a simple attempt to stir up a viewership by insulting us and thereby creating an audience. I would suggest that, instead of playing into this poor creatures snare that you just boycott his show.........shouldn't be hard, there are only........what?........maybe 35 TV's in all of Canada anyway.........right?. Now settle down, I was just kidding......why, some of my best friends are Canadians...........LOL. Ignore this obvious attempt to get some free publicity. Mick |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: gnu Date: 31 Mar 01 - 02:43 PM Big Mick... you got that right. I think Rick Mercer, Greg Thomey, Cathy Jones and THE extremely talented and well respected Mary Walsh ( the cast of 22 Minutes - one of the best Canuck comedy shows ) are the best. But Mercer's piss poor attempt at fame with this awful stench should be avoided at all costs. I wouldn't even boycott it; I'll just pretend it never happened and hope it dies faster than a dead thread. gnu |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: flattop Date: 31 Mar 01 - 02:49 PM Perhaps we should not assume that GUEST,Rick Mercer is the real Rick Mercer. This sounds more like an ill considered publicity stunt, perhaps by someone at Slater Street Films in Halifax to get the show ratings up. When Rick was interviewed on CBC Radio yesterday, he had a lot more grace. This show is a collection of pieces where Rick asks Americans questions about Canada, usually made-up nonsensical questions. He admitted that Americans had little reason to learn about Canada. We Canadians have lots of reasons that I won't spell out to learn about the country on our borders with ten times our population, with economic and military clout, with a president who steals elections and who at times appears to be short a few IQ points. Mercer didn't call Americans stupid on the radio. Instead he indicated that the joke revolved around American's urge to help when they knew nothing about Canada. He indicated that he had to exclude Americans who knew about Canada. His skill in manipulating people with his fast talking Newfie banter was part of the game. He also chuckled at how Canadians know too much about the U.S. That too may be funny. The 9:00, 9:30 thing - Newfoundland has a half-assed time zone that is ½ hour out of whack with the rest of humanity. |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: wdyat12 Date: 31 Mar 01 - 02:56 PM As an ignorant American, I am learning a lot about Canadian politics from this thread. Keep it up guys! wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: Hollowfox Date: 31 Mar 01 - 02:58 PM I wonder why Rick chose to post his little advert on the Mudcat? It's not folk-oriented. Most of the Mudcat population can't get CBC-TV (much as I'd like to). I suppose I should be flattered that he'd think this USA-based site is such a high-class joint that he'd want our viewership. |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: GUEST Date: 31 Mar 01 - 02:59 PM Dont' talk to them, just love them. |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: Jeri Date: 31 Mar 01 - 03:05 PM Everybody who thinks that was really Rick coming here to plug his show, raise your hands. OK - I've got a great deal for you on a really cool bridge... |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: GUEST,Jean Poutine Date: 31 Mar 01 - 03:06 PM Apparently, it is not ony Americans who are ignorant when it comes to things Canadian. Some Canadians show that they're just as ignorant. Consider Gnu, who said, "Alex... that was to Yanks in general. Your political leaders are courting the PQ's, Parti Quebecois, who have just won another election in La Belle Province and have vowed, AGAIN, to separate." Just won another election? They won the election in 1998. Quebec is closer to the next election than to the one Gnu thinks the Parti Quebecois "just won."
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: Big Mick Date: 31 Mar 01 - 03:18 PM Dammittaaallll Jeri.........I thought you loved me???????? Shit, everytime I run down a path, you come up with that friggin' common sense thing!!!!! Stoppit willya? But don't underestimate The Mudcat's audience. While I don't think that the audience one would get from our Canadian, and those of us who live close enough to her to get her TV stations, is significant, I do think that we have a large enough audience for a fight to have merit in promotion. (howzat for a sentence........sure hope Mrs. Boeve isn't reading this). Especially in the mind of a promo person. Anyway............get outa my reactionary case, willya??????................LOL. All the best, Mick |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: Peter T. Date: 31 Mar 01 - 03:19 PM Oh, ho hum. Americans don't know much about Canada. Canadians are obsessed with Americans. MORE REVELATIONS AT 10. This just in: George W. Bush has no interest in the environment or poor people. STOP THE PRESSES!!!! yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: gnu Date: 31 Mar 01 - 03:22 PM flattop... hear ya loud and clear and sgree with a lot of what you posted, but, still, a lot of these 22 Minutes segemnts were pretty poor. I have always lived by the motto, **** 'em if they can't take a joke, but, again, some of these segments were contrived and childish. So much so that I was embarrased for Rick. BTW, for the benefit of you Yanks, Rick is a very talented writer, comedian and actor who has made me laugh and provoked me to ponder many, many times. It's just this one bit that upsets me. AND it's not just me. Many of my friends are of like mind. BTW BTW, flattop said... We Canadians have lots of reasons that I won't spell out to learn about the country on our borders with ten times our population, with economic and military clout.... Whoa up bucko ! The Commonwealth has a population far more than ten times the population of the US, and has far more economic, military and political clout than the US. Perhaps we tend to learn more about them than they do of us because we have have to do SOMETHING during these damn snowstorms like I'm doing right now. gnu |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: GUEST Date: 31 Mar 01 - 03:23 PM I expect the enviornment will soon be legislated out of existance, so it won't be a problem anymore. |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: gnu Date: 31 Mar 01 - 03:30 PM Jean.... Even though I am drinking American beer after shovelling another barrage of Canadian snow, I'm drinking it like a true Canuck, fast and furious, thereby clouding my posts. My apologies to all. You are, of course, correct. The PQ did not recently win an election. They just elected a new idiot leader of their party to lead them to separation and domination by corporate America. ignorant&inebriatedgnu |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: wdyat12 Date: 31 Mar 01 - 03:33 PM gnu, Hobble around on your crutches again and maybe your good neighbors will shovel you out again. wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: gnu Date: 31 Mar 01 - 03:38 PM Well, maybe I should have, because that's what got me into trouble in this thread in the first place. Snowblowed/shovelled my drive and then the neighbour's drive and he bought me a case of Bud Light as a thank you for doing his drive a number of times this winter. And the ructions did begin, and the peelers did arrive.... gnu |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: wdyat12 Date: 31 Mar 01 - 03:41 PM American beer seems to make you more aggessive gnu. wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: MarkS Date: 31 Mar 01 - 03:45 PM Don't worry about the Canadians, folks. From what I hear about the rate of population increase in the various Provences, within a couple of decades they will all be speaking French(!)so we will have even more reason to pay no attention to them. But oh, I will miss Creemore Springs beer. Sigh Mark |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 31 Mar 01 - 04:04 PM Buggered if I know or care what all this is about - but it does seem that anytime anybody says anything unkind about "Americans" there are going to be Americans leaping out incandescent with fury.
Why take it so heavy? If there's anything 100 per cent certain in this life, it is that, if you hit the roof when people rub you up the wrong way, there is going to be a queue of people lining up rub you up the wrong way, just to see you hit the roof. Human nature, not even malicious, just human. |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: wdyat12 Date: 31 Mar 01 - 04:08 PM Not just Human Nature Mcgrath, all nature. Kick 'em when their down kinda thing. Birds do it alot. Pecking order and all that. wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: gnu Date: 31 Mar 01 - 04:18 PM wdyat12... American, Canadian, Australian, German.... notfussygnu |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: GUEST,Bruce O. Date: 31 Mar 01 - 04:24 PM You're pretty late in this game. American bashing was on the Scots-L newsgroup about 2 years ago. [When I go abroad I try to disguise the fact that I'm an American. I've fooled a lot of Americans that way, but probably no one else.] |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: wdyat12 Date: 31 Mar 01 - 04:25 PM I admit gnu, I have only seen birds in America do this. wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 31 Mar 01 - 04:33 PM Pecking order? I'd have thought America was rather high in the pecking order.
I'm sometimes reminded of the Lion in the Wizard of Oz when Dorothy taps him on the nose. "What did you do that for?" |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: wdyat12 Date: 31 Mar 01 - 04:37 PM McGrath, Americans get pecked all the time. Sometimes I wonder if we deserve any respect at all for what we do all over the world. wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: GUEST,George W. LaBouche Date: 31 Mar 01 - 04:43 PM I think its absolutely despotical that our Canadian brethren should so dispartridge their American friends who live in America. It is inherent that we keep the lines of communication open, for when we stop talking to one another, we no longer communicate. To Mr. McGrath, we Americans are not any more likely to become incandescent when we're picked on than Canadians, and it's a low blow to inseminate that we have poor bladder control. Thank you.
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: gnu Date: 31 Mar 01 - 04:44 PM Raising the standard of living of many who are less fortunate is a lot of what you Yanks, and we other "developed" nations, do. Whether it is in the strategic interests of the large corporations or not makes not a lot of difference to those who benefit. gnu |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: gnu Date: 31 Mar 01 - 04:47 PM George W. LaBouche.... Don H. ... is that you ? gnu |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: wdyat12 Date: 31 Mar 01 - 04:54 PM gnu, I work for General Dynamics. We build state of the art death ships for the United States Navy. General Dynamics is a bottom-line corporation that doesn't care for the children in Iraq or the people who build their profits. I don't know what corporations are like in Canada, but I hope they are not as myopic as General Dynamics. George, See we are all still talking here. wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: CarolC Date: 31 Mar 01 - 05:04 PM I'm with you, MarkS. Creemore Springs is the best beer I've ever had.
I can name all of the provinces... I keep hoping the Canadian government will think that's a good reason to let me have dual citizenship. That, and the fact that I have a lot of family in Canada. No luck so far. They keep saying I have to have a job and be a useful citizen. (*sigh*) Any of you Mudcat Canucks have connections with the Canadian citizenship people? |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: catspaw49 Date: 31 Mar 01 - 05:13 PM Coming in late here, several items leap to my attention after reading this thread.
1) I don't know Rick Mercer. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: Jeri Date: 31 Mar 01 - 05:24 PM Spaw, I'm ablsolutely sure I know who posted as George W. If all reasonable US citizens abroad are pretending to not be from the US, that explains why the people who act like idiots look like a majority. That, and the jerks are just louder. Trust me - I've been in situations where I've wanted to crawl under a table. |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: GUEST,tired of flamers Date: 31 Mar 01 - 05:30 PM What a shame. Sure, some will take it in good spirit, but many will be a bit hurt or angry, and think all Canadians are jerks. Of course that's what the little mischief maker(s) who started this thread are after. The TV actor Rick Mercer has nothing to do with this, but it seems to parallel the thread below, regarding intent, and what some of the community think of others here. Sad. I guess it's just been a boring week for a couple of people. |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: flattop Date: 31 Mar 01 - 05:44 PM It could still be a publicity stunt. If so, it was effective because it got us talking. Publicity often depends on word of mouth. In the internet age, does word of finger count? |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: Ferret Date: 31 Mar 01 - 05:51 PM You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, when they have tried every thing else. The Canadian's could have had American know-how, French cuisine, British Government. But ended up with American Government. British cuisine, French know-how, All the best Ferret |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: Jon Freeman Date: 31 Mar 01 - 06:00 PM I think I'll add a post to get me nearer to winning my bet with myself. My new game here is betting how quickly a certain threads will hit the 100 posts. How about by midnight EST - Mudcat April Fools Day? Jon |
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Subject: RE: Talking To Americans From: Ferret Date: 31 Mar 01 - 06:10 PM This may help then Jon all the best ferret |
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