BS: War with Canada?

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: kendall
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 01:17 PM

gnu..are you serious? The war of 1812 didnt even rate a name. Hell, it was more of a mis-understanding than a war. The way I read it, both sides simply said "Screw it, lets go back to the way we were."

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: GUEST,Bill Clinton
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 03:23 PM

Miss me , don't you? I feel your pain my Canadian friends, I feel your pain.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: gnu
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 06:43 PM

Kendall said, in response to my request for an explanation of why he stated above, "Even though we sorta won the War of 1812, .... " .... gnu..are you serious? The war of 1812 didnt even rate a name. Hell, it was more of a mis-understanding than a war. The way I read it, both sides simply said "Screw it, lets go back to the way we were."

SIMPLY SAID !!!!???? Tell that to all the Americans that lay dead and suffering at the feet of Brock in the WAR OF 1812. A lot of Americans tried to get up that hill in the main battle and were cut down in the line of fire. THEY GAVE THIER LIVES FOR AMERICA. And you call it a "mis-understanding" !!!!???? C'mon, man. You said you "sorta won". Was that idle banter or Yankee puffing ? or WHAT ?

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: GUEST,ollaimh
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 07:25 PM

no one3 can honestly claim a victory in the war of 1812.

the americans did very badly considering they invaded canada twice with numbers almost equal to the whole canadian population, but they were ill trained conscripts and the natives were on canada's side and provided valuable raiding strength and reconance, while denying the americans supplies off the land and stoping them sending out any effective reconosance raids. however canada only rebuffed two invasions we didn't manage to conquer the us so it was realistically a draw.

from canad's point of view that's pretty good as canad's population was aproximately one twentieth of the us and the brits had little help tp send as they were rather tired up with that bum napolean.

as for cretien having no western support--that's a total myth. the liberals hold 15 seats out west out of 82, a significant presence on the caucaus. they have strenght out west in all the urban ridings and a few northern ones where the native vote swings the day. it the waspy rural west--still a significant force out there--that suppoert the right wing parties. the liberals have traditionally held together a coalition of catholics, urban poor and middle calss and new immigrants. in modern canada that will get you elected ten times out of ten. in fact the success of the tories under mulroney was because he stole the liberal postions successfully. this got him to power butleft his traditional western right wingers sorely disapointed as they had little more influence than under the liberals. these waspy rightists have a real problem with being a minority in a country they once ran like a private club, but as the western urban vote grows they will fade into well deserved obscurity.

the leader of the reform/alliance(one of the right wing parties, based in the west) didn't know that canada was majority catholic in an interview before the last election. well he's was in the alberta government and catholics a few and far between out there but in the population centers of canada they are huge in numbers especially east of the ottawa river.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: gnu
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 07:49 PM

ollaimh said... we didn't manage to conquer the us so it was realistically a draw.

Say what ? Conquer the US ? Never a consideration. Therefore, never a draw. Why do so many people try to defend the fact that the US lost the WAR OF 1812 by slighting it ? Are you Yanks so insecure that you cannot even admit to the fact that you lost to the most advanced war machine on the planet ? The Brits haven't lost a war since 1066 !!!! Get used to it !!!!

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: kendall
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 08:05 PM

GNU I have no quarrel with Canada. I dont want a quarrel with Canada. So, when you say the Brits havn't lost a war since 1066, there is a damn good reason. The USA has always been on their side since the War of 1812. How do you account for the British surrender at Yorktown? Are you going to turn that into a victory? Explain...

Now, for all to see, to our friends across the border, and to anyone else who may be upset by my cavalier comments about the War of 1812. I was trying to head off a pissing contest by downplaying the importance of that war. you took offence, and that was not my intent at all. So, to you or anyone else who may have misread me, I do most sincerely apologize.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: ollaimh
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 08:07 PM

well actually i'm canadian but no brit. but the brits have lost a few . remeber the irish revolution. or maybe the kenyan revolt that led to the pull out from africa. the old empire often pulled out and declared vistory! good pr but poor history.

i remain with my position that canada won a well deserved draw. we didn't participate in the events at new orleans or the burning of washington.

the usa did by the way burn york--our capital at the time which resulted in the capital being moved to ottawa. giving us the second coldest capital in the world.. ulan bator in mongolia is colder. moscow is the tropic compared to an ottawa winter. maybe the yanks won after all.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 08:09 PM

gnu, are you saying your daddy can beat my daddy?

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Kelticgrasshopper
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 08:12 PM

If any politician living and make an enemy out of Canada it will be BUSH.. he has now named one of the most pompus , and I hate to say it but I will STUPID leaders to be ambassador. Cellucci has raised havoc with the education system here in Massachusetts, he lives in a dream world. I'm sure he hasn't a clue where PEI is and I doubt that he cares. The only war going on now is the potato WAR..and that is sad and devistating to small farmers on PEI.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Kelticgrasshopper
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 08:13 PM

If any politician living can make an enemy out of Canada it will be BUSH.. he has now named one of the most pompus , and I hate to say it but I will STUPID leaders to be ambassador. Cellucci has raised havoc with the education system here in Massachusetts, he lives in a dream world. I'm sure he hasn't a clue where PEI is and I doubt that he cares. The only war going on now is the potato WAR..and that is sad and devistating to small farmers on PEI.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Kelticgrasshopper
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 08:15 PM

OOPS I SLIPPED

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: ollaimh
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 08:18 PM

no daddy was otherwise occupied leaving us almost a state. THE BRITS did try to beat the usa and were rather embarrassed in the effort back in the previous war

as a part acadien and part cape breton scott i have to say i am definetely ambivalent about the idea. aacadiens did quite a bit better down in louissainna than in the old home land (untill recently anyway--trudeau did a lot for the out lying french minorities in canada)and scotts from nova scotia used to go to boston for work. i still have relatives there.

i might like being american.

in fact i've thought of going down to new orleans to busk and maybe wander out on the bayou and see if there are any relatives ... common ca va eh!

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: gnu
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 08:21 PM

No quarrel. No comment. No winner. No draw. No animosity.

Long live the true north strong and free. God bless America.

I apologize for my rancorous comments and baiting. Twas uncalled for and I just was looking for a fight. Common amongst my upbringing and shameful, to say the least.

Kendall.... I am sincerely sorry for my posts above. They were, at best, pathetically pompous and arrogant.

gnu

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: GUEST,TJ
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 08:57 PM

gne wrote "The Brits haven't lost a war since 1066 !!!! Get used to it !!!!"

If you are so good then why did we have to save your ass during those last two scraps with German? ;-)

But more importantly why do British women prefer American guys?

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: kendall
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 09:12 PM

As the "Invincible knight said in Monty Python and the holy grail when Arthur cut off his arms and legs, "Alright, we'll call it a draw". FYI Gnu, my ancestors invaded England with Wm. the conqueror in 1066.They were originally Vikings who settled in Normandy, so,I love a good heated debate, and, I've even been called a "berserker" by an old shipmate. However, I do not like to fight. My dark side loves it, so, I dont let it out if I can help it. TO ALL CANADIANS...LIVE LONG AND PROSPER!

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Naemanson
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 11:25 PM

Charlie said earlier this evening that this thread was getting serious. I'm glad I missed it.

Can we persuade any of the Canadians to invade and burn the White House again? I really don't like this decor any better than the Puce House and the occupant is truly a pain in my backside.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 11:54 PM

First of all - while Briatian is fairly good at winning war they suck at winning peace (or maybe they just good-naturely gave up nearly their entire empire.

Secondly, If I was Canada, I'd worry about St. Pierre & Miquelon. Their police force might just give the good old Mounties a run. At the very least the U.S. doesn't let a bunch of French people own a few islands that should be ours. It's bad enough that we have to drive through Canada to get to Alaska.

What's up with St. Pierre & Miquelon anyway? Are they going to leave France when Canada finally tells Quebec to leave? And if Quebec goes independent - will the Eastern povinces split and create New Canada? And will Canada finally give province status to the territories (including Nunavut?

Enquiring minds want to know.

As you know, we will never let Puerto Rico become a state - not because of racism or anything like that- but because U.S.ers are more comfortable with even numbers and our flag would look wierd with 51 stars (3 rows of 17 stars, maybe?)

just joking yall

have a great weekend

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: gnu
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 07:04 AM

It's morming and I am sober. Hungover, but thinking considerably more clearly than last night. I just read my posts of last night. Anyone know if a breathalizer can be connected to a keyboard ?

That's why they call me gnu. Every time I go to the waterhole, I drink like a wild beast.... and then act like an ass.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Willie-O
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 09:33 AM

The assertion that the UK hasn't lost a war since 1066 is entirely incorrect. Or did they actually win the American War of Independence and we were all misinformed?

And stretching definitions a bit, you could argue that Mahatma Gandhi declared (a pacifist) war on the UK, and won. The tactics were unconventional, but the result is not in doubt.

Fact is, though, that no one has been successful since 1066 at INVADING Great Britain. Nor, since 1763, has anyone successfully (as in, caused a change of recognized ownership) invaded what is now Canada, neither has anyone invaded the United States.

(Except the Beatles)

Now let's all strategically retreat with honour intact.

By the way ollaimh, you make a good point. I was speaking rather broadly. But fifteen seats helps the Liberals maintain a comfortable majority, doesn't win or lose the election for them.

I just wish the Liberals in power weren't so damn Conservative!

Willie-O

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: gnu
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 09:48 AM

I agree.... just don't use the bugle to sound retreat.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: GUEST,TJ
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 09:53 AM

Sorry for the harassing, just a little good natured fun.

The truth is we have no interest in acquiring Canada, asides from being too damn cold up there, it would be too difficult for us to teach you all to think in terms of miles and inches, etc. Besides who could live with all those French Quebecians? Not me. ;-)

Good day all!

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Naemanson
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 09:58 AM

All of the above reminds me of a scene from the movie Hallelujah Trail:

Cavalry, dismounted, along a ridge, fighting Indians in a sandstorm. A round comes in from behind. The lieutenant calls, "Protect your rear!" The soldiers scramble over the ridge and fire back. Another round comes in from behind again. The lieutenant calls, "Protect your other rear!" The soldiers again scramble over the ridge and fire back. Yet another round comes in from behind. The lieutenant calls, "Protect both rears simultaneously!" Half the soldiers scramble over the ridge and come up to face each other!

It doesn't read well but it's one of the funniest scenes from comedy westerns.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 12:44 PM

Yes, Bill, we miss you. Oh how we miss you! When does Hilary get to run again?

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Amergin
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 01:15 PM

Sometimes I wonder why we just don't go and annex Canada....then I remember who we would be forced to call countrymen....

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: kendall
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 03:18 PM

Thats probably the reason the Canadians dont annex us!

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: ollaimh
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 08:33 PM

well you'all sound consider that the western part of canada has more oil reserves than ever existed in the middle east--they are the most expensive oil reserves to extract but they are likely figured large in the pentagon's long range planning. and canada has between 20 and 40 percent of the world's fresh water--depending upon the estimate. with a population of 30 million we wouldn't be that hard to absorb.

i'm not advocating anything, but it has long been my suspicion that the reform party was funded by the cia in the beginning to facilitate just such a resources grab if quebec were to separate. the old leader of the reform--preston manning was an employee of a cia funded think tank of a decade.and he was the media darling with no obvious reason except the corporate interests were backing him.

i'd also like to say about chretien that he has his good qualities . he is the youngest of thirteen children born in poverty in rural quebec, and with a degenerative nervous disease that keeps him partiallt paralized on one side of his body, and he made it to the top with more strikes against him than any other politician i can think of. he's a genuie fighter. the other canadian leaders are a joke compared to him as far as their toughness. now toughness isn't the only quality but he's sure got it. that is the seceret to his appeal in three elections. he genuinely appeals to working class people as a hard working fighter, warts and all. that's something the right wing parties and the media consistently under estimate.

he is also the leader of the moderate to left wing of the liberal party so a lot of people who want martin as the new leader(the leader of the ringht wing of the liberals)forget that chretain has a lot of support within the party as there is presently no other left leaning leader who could beat martin in a leadership fight..

i persinally have invaded the united states many times but no one seemed to notice . i mat invade again this summer and go on a busking trip across the union. anybioy got any sugestions for good placces to claim for canada.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 07:14 PM

Good points there. I invaded the USA on several occasions too, with no apparent effect whatsoever...on them, that is. There are a lot of nice places to invade down there, as long as you avoid the inner cities.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 07:30 PM

The Canadians send good-sized invasion forces to Hawai'i and Florida every winter, including me. The natives do a good job of resistance, cleaning us out before we go home.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Naemanson
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 09:05 PM

You haven't lived till you've mingled with the Canadian Exploratory teams that invade Old Orchard Beach (Maine) every year.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 11:43 PM

We like the Canadians who visit Florida each year. We like the British too - After a few years you can do a good job estimating how long they've been in Florida by how lobster-like their skin appears.

I've got one word for yall - sunblock.

pax yall

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: artbrooks
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 01:24 AM

The British haven't been invaded since 1066? Haven't there been Scottish kings, German kings and at least one Dutch king since then?

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Les from Hull
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 05:53 AM

We were even invaded by some French who landed at Fishguard in Wales and were frightened into surrender by some Welsh women.

German Kings and Dutch Kings have only 'invaded' by invitation. We've been invaded by Scottish 'Non-Kings' or 'Would-be-Kings' as well as real Kings, Dukes, Earls and so on down. If you read 'The Steel Bonnets' by George Macdonald Fraser you can find out all about Border Reivers. There are lots of old ballads which mention them, including Chevvy Chase (the ballad, not the actor). Many Americans and Canadians will be descended from these border families. They might be the ones who will start the next war for you! **bg**

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 06:09 AM

Hey TJ!

If you are so good then why did we have to save your ass during those last two scraps with German? ;-)

Or was it that you only picked sides when you could see which side which way it was going anyway...? :-0

And

But more importantly why do British women prefer American guys?

Because the American guys are richer, more gullible and easier to take money from? You didn't realy think it was anything to do with dress sense, manners or sense of humour did you??? *BG*

LOL

Dave the Gnome

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Naemanson
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 07:29 AM

Speaking of invasions of England didn't William Wallace take York?

Of course, shortly thereafter he went all to pieces over a little failure....

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 09:12 AM

Don't let the politico's assinine statements fool anyone. Americans know they have no better friends in the world than Canadians. We sort of think of them as an extension of the US, which they don't like very well, but who else is more like US?

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Les from Hull
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 09:54 AM

Naemanson - If sneeking around with a box of matches counts as an invasion (more or less what Wallace did in England), then the USA invaded England (or Whitehaven) in its War of Independence.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Naemanson
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 09:57 AM

"...sneeking around with a box of matches..." LOL

I love the imagery!

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 10:10 PM

This all proves the following :

A man will die for an idea---providing that idea isn't quite clear to him.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Apr 01 - 04:59 PM

The earlier point (and a comon one) was that England and later Britain hasn't been SUCCESSFULLY invaded since 1066. 1066 was a war that England lost to the point that the government was over-thrown. after that (with the exception of civil war) England and Britain have never been taken over. - Yes there have been many battles - even successful ones on English soil, but the English have always been able to eventually win whatever war that was going on.

This can encompass the battles with the Scots, although it is usually the shores of Britain that are mentioned with invasion. And the Scots never over threw the government (although they did end up adding their blood-line to the English throne. But James the Vi (James I of England) wasn't much of a Scot, if you ask me (which you haven't)

For that matter the United States and Canada both have never been successfully invaded, though our histories are a bit shorter.

pax yall

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: ollaimh
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 09:47 PM

ya know we in canada did make an unusually large contribution to the second worls war effort.in fact one of five invasion beaches on d day was fully canadian--juno i think. for a nation of about ten million it was a major effort. we did make a lot of money off the war though--it wasn'tall altruism.

and although the prevailing sentiment among anglo canadians is tobe a bit anti american, the frencj scotts and irish--most of canada from the ottawa valley east is actuallu more often pro american.it may sound hookey,but for gaelic people who were ethnically cleanses from the celtic isles america has always been the land of liberty.we may not have benn first class all the time but people in america gave those of us whosurrived the crossing a fair shake.most gaelic eastern canadian have many american relatives as well and strong culturallinks with new england. now we franco/gaels are not well represented in the news media so that opinion doesn'talways get across.

from my personal experience americans are musc nicer tostrangers than anglocanadians. several decades ago i was traveling broke across the us tolook for work out in alberta(we used to call foert mcmurry fort mcmoney back east), and we croke down in an ols van with seven obviously poor guys out in minnesota near the dakotas.

we rather glummly began walking as we had nomoney to fix the thing and at the first truck stop we had a coffey and contemplated what looked like a realbad month or two and we told a waitress oursob story and a few minutes later some stranger came upand asked us about the tale then another and another and in a few hours they towed our van to the local garage, repaired it and gave us enough money to finish the trip. now i've broken down in canada too and nothiing like that has ever happened tome unless it was in the maritimes. i've never forgatten what nice people they were. and we must have looked like death warmed over. we hadn't eaten a decent mealin weeks and we all had long hair and beard and a few guitars. so i like americans.

i just don'tunderstand why they vote for such wierd politicians--but what the hell it's their country .

as to why do english women like american men.well when i was over there they seemed rather fond of canadian men too.i have a theory.i found english women to be sweet as the day is long,but english men to be rather means and far too ften violent.american and canadian men are more well healed by our more aggressive women and when the two meet the english women love being pampered and the american and canadian men love the sweet temperment of so many english women--they always seem to want to do something nice for you.

that ought to get me into more trouble

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Owlkat
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 12:01 AM

Hi, War with Canada is hardly a question. We're already at war. PEI potatoes have been totally unfairly declared unfit for the US market, which is going a long way to destroying the economy of an entire province. This is nothing more than a malicious trade sanction. Our higher quality softwood lumber exports are being pummeled and penalized, because all yours are privately owned and the prices are jacked up. NAFTA has trashed our magazine and film industries. It also is being used as a lever to pave the way for guaranteed fresh water exports from Canada whether we want to or not. BC Hydro has been piping electricity to California for months to help out with the power shortage and hasn't recieved a dime for it yet. You want to drill out the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and destroy the calving grounds of the caribou herd that feeds and supports a good portion of the indigenous population of the Yukon Territory (Yes, it's in Canada) for a mere SIX MONTH supply of oil. There's an American oil pipeline being planned for the North West Territory that goes from Alaska under the ice in the Beaufort Sea to Inuvik. A blowout in this underwater pipe (they all have blowouts sooner or later) would wipe marine life for thousands of square kilometres.
Every time we try to defend our sovereignty in any way, some congressman stands up on his hind legs, and bellows in elephantine rage that we taking unfair advantage of trade with a country with ten times the population, and a history of nuclear bomb use. It is with no small amount of chagrin that I watch our Prime Minister kiss yankee butt and beg for a north american dollar, and yet more American imperialism, while we get kicked in the head. By the time the US has finished draining Canada of all its resources, there would be no point for a war since there'd be nothing left worth taking.
You people have no idea what it's like on this side of the line, watching successive governments posting FOR RENT signs on our foreheads, watching our culture (such as it is) being McDonaldized, watching our health care systems being privatized to follow the American model, seeing our publishing industry weakened to the point that our school textbooks are being printed in New Jersey, watching the processess of our national elections being pulled down in the American muckraking style of mudslinging, and even seeing the spelling of the language we use being altered to fit the American model.
You may talk about war with Canada as if it were some amusing little sidebar to the end of the 11:00 news. Well, some of us up here don't see it that way. There's a world out there that has a myriad of histories, languages, economies, and cultures that have nothing to do with the US. Canadians are part of that world. We don't want to be sucked up and spat out by anyone. If we are at war, and I think trade wars can be no more condoned than the ones where you drop napalm and agent orange on someone else's kids, then on my behalf and that of my family, I'd like to ask you to please stop. If there are those reading this who have no idea where I'm coming from, figure it out. Just like the whos in Dr. Suess's book(yes, I know it's American, but hey, it IS Dr.Suess), we are here, we are here, we are heeeeeeeeeeere...SPLAT. Fuming
Owl.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: RichM
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 03:36 AM

Best comment in this thread?

Art Thieme's:

"A man will die for an idea---providing that idea isn't quite clear to him."

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: kendall
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 06:46 AM

Owlkat, some of us know exactly what you are talking about. We have an old saying here, "Money makes the mare go." Sad, but, true.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: JedMarum
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 12:49 PM

The War with Canada has already started, and Dallas won the first major battle last night; 2-1 in OT on a goal by Jamie Langenbrunner. Great battle for a Dallas fan - but the Oilers look strong.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: GUEST,fe
Date: 04 Apr 02 - 05:38 AM

We have obviously become involved in trade war.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: gnu
Date: 04 Apr 02 - 05:40 AM

So start a new thread... this one is dead.

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Rolfyboy6
Date: 04 Apr 02 - 07:34 AM

Proof. Canadian Imperialism

Beware the bland bomb. It is clever that the US is reducing the ozone layer so that invading Canadian forces will be struck with skin cancer. Nevertheless, I think we should surrender now and give them North Dakota. So what if they rename it South Manitoba?

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: mousethief
Date: 04 Apr 02 - 09:59 AM

They can have Duluth, too.

Alex

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: bob schwarer
Date: 04 Apr 02 - 03:00 PM

Maybe Canada will keep their tourists at home. Oh joy.

Bob S in Florida. Ontario plates to the right of me. Ontario plates to the left of me. HELP

Subject: RE: BS: War with Canada?
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 04 Apr 02 - 07:50 PM

Uh, holy crap, it's mousethief! Welcome back. :)

Oh, yeah: Duluth?! They can have Duluth, if they can pry it from my cold, dead, vacation!

---Lepus Rex