Subject: Psychology songs From: Mrrzy Date: 14 May 01 - 12:48 PM Last semester I taught Intro to Psychology, and when we were talking about the appropriate chapters, I sang Oedipus Rex (Tom Lehrer) and Dr. Freud (The Gateway Singers). Although I chickened out in the last class (I was going to do the Weavers' So Long It's Been Good To Know You), I've decided that it won't be a fluke. I'm teaching developmental psych this summer. I know that for the gender differences I'll sing What Are Little Girls Made Of (all the verses, I know little girls/boys, young men/women, old men/women, and little babies; any other verses would be appreciated), but are there any other good psychology songs? How about that Pete Seeger one about getting old, anyone know what I'm talking about? Doesn't have to be developmental, in particular, although those would be most appreciated, just general psych stuff. Thanks, all you maniacs out there! |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: AllisonA(Animaterra) Date: 14 May 01 - 12:51 PM Do you mean, "My get up and go has got up and went"? |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: mousethief Date: 14 May 01 - 01:00 PM Well there's "Psychobabble" by the Alan Parsons Project (from the "Eye in the Sky" album). There's the whole "Oedipus Tex" opera by PDQ Bach (from the "Oedipus Tex and Other Choral Calamaties" CD -- which also includes the choral piece, "How Many Psychiatrists Does It Take To Change a Light Bulb?"). "Twisted" (Joni Mitchell, "Court and Spark" album) is a classic ("My analyst told me/That I was right out of my head..."). This is also sung by Bette Midler but I don't know where. I'll think of more soon and post back. Alex |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Amergin Date: 14 May 01 - 01:02 PM Mrrzy, that get up and go one is in the dt I think.... Another one you might like to try is Cat's In The Cradle.... |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Wolfgang Date: 14 May 01 - 01:03 PM Psychology songs (a collection for university teachers) Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: LR Mole Date: 14 May 01 - 01:04 PM Now I am old,my youth is all spent My get-up-and-go has got up and went In spite of it all, I'm able to grin When I think of the places my get-up has been (?) |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Whistle Stop Date: 14 May 01 - 01:16 PM You could try "Psycho Street" by Richard Thompson, but I'm not sure how well that would go over. Another by him is "Behind Grey Walls," about leaving someone in an asylum. Then there's "Crazy Man Michael," which he wrote back in the Fairport Convention days. Hell, RT probably has dozens of these. But they're all about severely twisted individuals, so I don't know if they would really work for you. Of course, if you're feeling particularly energetic, you could launch into "I Wanna Be Sedated" by the Ramones. Your students might appreciate that one. |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Bert Date: 14 May 01 - 01:19 PM Is this the sort of thing? |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: mousethief Date: 14 May 01 - 01:20 PM "Love my Lips" ("Veggie Tunes 2" CD) is a hilariously stereotypical psychoanalytic conversation between a very disturbed cucumber and his shrink (an asparagus stalk). For developmental issues, why not "Sunrise, Sunset" from Fiddler on the Roof? More to come. Alex |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: wysiwyg Date: 14 May 01 - 01:20 PM PM Dharmabum, he has one that is a riot. Also there was an old thread... in the last year... it was, I THINK, for a psych professional who was retiring... can't recall how it was titled though. ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: mousethief Date: 14 May 01 - 01:31 PM I'm ashamed I didn't think about this one earlier: "Asylum" by Supertramp ("Crime of the Century" album). "But don't arrange to have me sent to no asylum. I'm just as sane as anyone." Virtually anything written by Roger Waters (ne Pink Floyd) that isn't about war is about insanity. See particularly "Total Eclipse" ("Dark Side of the Moon" album) -- "The lunatic is on the grass...." "Toys in the Attic" (Aerosmith, album of the same name) of course. And much, much more.... Alex |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Mrrzy Date: 14 May 01 - 01:35 PM Boy, post something, go to lunch, and look what happens. Will check out all links and get back to you. Wolfgang, yours looks bang-on. And yes, all, it was My Get Up And Go, thanks, I needed a handle to find it in the DT. |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: MMario Date: 14 May 01 - 01:36 PM What was the one Wyo-woman opened her concert with? "Pyschotherapy"? I think...
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Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: GUEST,Margaret V at work Date: 14 May 01 - 01:37 PM There's Dar Williams' song about therapy,"What Do You Hear in These Sounds?" on her 1997 album "End of the Summer." Margaret |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: SINSULL Date: 14 May 01 - 01:39 PM How about that wedding tearjerker "Where are you going my little one?" A Kodak moment song. |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: catspaw49 Date: 14 May 01 - 01:44 PM On gender differences, what about Peggy Seeger's I'm Gonna' Be An Engineer instead? Here's the direct link to Pete's How Do I Know My Youth Is All Spent Spaw |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Mrrzy Date: 14 May 01 - 01:47 PM Wolfgang, great site, just not enough Folk. I'm sure the rest is more "in tune" with today's college students, but I can really only sing Folk. I'm gonna try Psycho Killer, though, I love that song... |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Mrrzy Date: 14 May 01 - 01:48 PM Thanks, Spaw, and will keep checking all these other helpful links. Think FOLK, though, folks... |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Mrrzy Date: 14 May 01 - 01:51 PM Bert - yes, thanks! |
Subject: Lyr Add: I LOVE MY LIPS (from Veggie Tales) From: mousethief Date: 14 May 01 - 01:55 PM Folk songs about psychology? Ain't gonna happen. Maybe Paxton. Anyway since I like it so much I have decided to include the entirety of "I Love My Lips" (NB: Everything by Larry is sung unless it specifically says "spoken") Narrator: "One day while talking with Dr. Archibald, Larry confronts one of his deepest fears ..." Larry: "If my lips ever left my mouth, packed a bag and headed south, that'd be too bad, I'd be so sad." Archibald: "I see. That'd be too bad, you'd be so sad?" Larry: "That'd be too bad. If my lips said 'adios, I don't like you I think you're gross,' that'd be too bad, I might get mad." Archibald: "That'd be too bad, you might get mad?" Larry: "That'd be too bad. If my lips moved to Duluth, left a mess and took my tooth, that'd be too bad, I'd call my Dad." Archibald: "That'd be too bad, you'd call your Dad?" Larry: "That'd be too bad." Archibald: "Hold it. Did you say your father? Fascinating! So what you're saying is that if your lips left you ..." Larry: "That'd be too bad, I'd be so sad, I might get mad, I'd call my Dad. That'd be too bad." Archibald: "That'd be to bad?" Larry: "That'd be too bad." Archibald: "Why?" Larry (spoken): "Because I love my lips." (Sung (scatting)): Yibedbopobidebabooyibedbopobidebabooo(etc) Archibald (holding up an ink blot that looks unmistakably like a lip): "Oh my ... This is more serious than I thought. Larry, tell me, what do you see here?" Larry (spoken): "Um, that looks like a lip." Archibald (holding up another lip-like ink blot): "And this?" Larry (spoken): "It's a lip!" Archibald (flips rapidly through many ink blots, which look less and less like lips (one is a photo of Sonny Bono!)): "And this?" Larry (to tune of William Tell Overture): "It's a lip, it's a lip, it's a lip lip lip! It's a lip, it's a lip, it's a lip lip lip! It's a lip, it's a lip, it's a lip lip lip. Liiiiiiiiiiiips. Lip lip lip." Archibald: "Larry, tell me about your childhood." Larry: "When I was just two years old I left my lips out in the cold and they turned blue. What could I do?" Archibald: "They turned blue, what could you do?" Larry: "Oh they turned blue. On the day I got my tooth I had to kiss my Great Aunt Ruth. She had a beard ... and it felt weird." Archibald: "My, my. She had a beard and it felt weird?" Larry: "She had a beard. Ten days after I turned eight, got my lips stuck in a gate. My friends all laughed." (Next part is spoken really fast): "And I just stood there until the fire department came and broke the lock with a crow bar and I had to spend the next six weeks in lip rehab with this kid named Oscar who got stung by a bee - right on the lip - and we couldn't even talk to each other until the fifth week because both our lips were so swollen, and when he did start speaking he just spoke Polish and I only knew like three words in Polish except now I know four because Oscar taught me the word for lip: Oofta." Archibald: "Your friends all laughed ... Usta? How do you spell that?" Larry (spoken): "I don't know." Archibald: "So what you're saying is that when you were young ..." Larry: "They turned blue, what could I do? She had a beard and it felt weird. My friends all laughed ... Oofta!" Archibald: "I'm confused ..." Larry (spoken): "I love my lips!" (sung): "Yibedbopobidebabooyibedbopobidebabooo(etc)" Narrator: "This has been Silly Songs With Larry. Tune in next time to hear Larry say ..." Larry (spoken): "Have I ever told you how I feel about my nose?" Archibald: "Oh, look at the time!" |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 14 May 01 - 02:02 PM I'm trying....I'm trying...folk is hard! Also, I'm not sure what developmental psychology is! I Won't Grow Up from Peter Pan All of Me |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: GUEST,aMOS Date: 14 May 01 - 02:16 PM C'mon: Oh, Doctor Freud, Oh Doctor Freud A |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: CRANKY YANKEE Date: 14 May 01 - 02:22 PM In Harry Belafonte's "Man Piaba" there's a verse:...... .Well it was clear as mud but it covered the ground The confusion made me brain go round. I thought I'd take a trip abroad, to Baden Bad and ask sigmund Freud He said, "Son", From your sad face remove the grouch, Put the body up on the couch I can see from your frustration a neurotic sublimation, You see......... Love and hate are psychosomatic Your "Rorschak" shows you are peripetetic It all started with a broken sibling in the words of the famous......Rudyard Kipling. (there follows a line of gibberish) If you want the rest of the song, send me a PM. br>My observation: Mental illness is when your asshole shrinks up over your head and you get a shitty outlook on life. |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Hollowfox Date: 14 May 01 - 03:05 PM Bob coltman's "Weaver Bird is in the DT. I can't think of a better example for the love/death concept in music. (I found it on a forumDT search of "Coltman"). If somebody has a way to get his song "Bruin's Going" to you, it would probably be a good one as well, but I don't think it's ever been put on an album. |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Jim Dixon Date: 14 May 01 - 03:52 PM As I have said before, I think David Bromberg's Someone Else's Blues is a pretty good description of clinical depression. Of course there are a lot of blues songs that describe depression, but most of them focus on something bad happening to the narrator, and causing him to "have the blues." Bromberg's song, by contrast, points out that blues or depression doesn't necessarily have an identifiable external cause. And it's clever and funny (sort of). |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Mrrzy Date: 14 May 01 - 05:36 PM Cranky Yankee, I had indeed forgotten about Man Piaba, what a great song. The gibberish I ken as De Woman Piaba and de Man Piaba, de tam tam call but de lemon grass, De lily root, golly root, belly root unh! (grunted as only Harry Belafonte can grunt), and de famous randy scratch scratch. I always liked the famous randy scratch scratch, so I don't really want to know I've got the gibberish wrong! |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Jim Dixon Date: 14 May 01 - 06:03 PM Here's one that seems to be about obsessive-compulsiveness and possibly delusion: LOOKING FOR MONEY. If you want to cover all kinds of pathology, you've got to cover alcoholism. There is this thread: Wanted: Songs for alcoholics!, but I don't necessarily endorse all the songs in that thread, but there are some good ones. There's also this thread: Traditional songs & madness which mentions some good songs. |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: ddw Date: 14 May 01 - 06:37 PM There's Lyle Lovett's "Pontiac," about a vet psyching himself up to commit murder. Also the Limeliters' "Gunslinger."
"When you were a child did the Cheyenne and Sioux cheers, david |
Subject: Lyr Add: CHILD PSYCHOLOGY From: Bullfrog Date: 14 May 01 - 07:01 PM Homer and Jethro made a good song called CHILD PSYCHOLOGY
When Ma and Pa was fast asleep and I'd start to squall
::chorus::
And when I got on their nerves and they could stand no more ::chorus::
When they'd put me in the tub no one would ever see
'course irony's a dangerous thing in the hands of children (drunks) and hillbilly singers. |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Helen Date: 14 May 01 - 07:48 PM Well, they're not developmental psychology, but here are a few more suggestions.
I don't remember who sang any of them, by the way.
You Think I'm Crazy Don't You, Mama And one we used to have on an old 78 record called The Lone Psychiatrist (like the Lone Ranger, but he comes and psychoanalyses people and then rides off into the sunset. Just searched for this - it was by Stan Freberg. The Honey Earthers was on the flip side. Helen |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Mrrzy Date: 14 May 01 - 09:10 PM Developmental psych = study of changes in behavior or cognition or whathaveyou that correlate with age. |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 14 May 01 - 10:06 PM Daily Growing about child marriages. Beautiful tune, and a Child Ballad, can you get more folky? the second verse:
Father, dear father, you've done me great wrong
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Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: pastorpest Date: 14 May 01 - 10:37 PM Ron Hynes' "Sonny's Dream" with the title character unwilling to break free and be his own person, a mother who holds on too tight, and an absentee father, ought to be psychological enough for anyone. Great song! |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Mark Cohen Date: 14 May 01 - 11:05 PM For sibling rivalry, there's Rosalie Sorrels' I'm Gonna Tell. And, though it's often misinterpreted, I've always liked her Hostile Baby-Rocking Song. That's kind of the reverse of developmental psychology, but I think it fits. Aloha, Mark (developmental pediatrician) |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Bill D Date: 15 May 01 - 11:03 AM John Hartford's "Have Mercy on my Poor Old Prurient Interest" |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Kim C Date: 15 May 01 - 12:43 PM I saw Guy Clark in concert years ago and he did a song about going to see a psychiatrist. It ended with the line, "Second best hundred dollars I ever spent." That's the first and only time I've ever heard it and don't even know the name. Johnny Cash, I think, did a song about being in a mental hospital... |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Trapper Date: 15 May 01 - 01:22 PM How about They're Coming To Take Me Away by Napoleon XIV?? Here's the link to the Guy Clark song Kim C. mentioned
- Al |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Kim C Date: 15 May 01 - 01:37 PM Thanks Trapper! I really like Guy Clark. I need to get more familiar with his work. |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Abby Sale Date: 16 May 01 - 09:14 AM How comfortable you'll be doing this in class, I can't imagine but it's clearly Folk. From the Happy! file for Havlock Ellis' birthday: O Mr. Ellis, O Mr. Ellis! Sex has peculiar angles, as you say; But I don't see the idear of coitus from the rear, Though it seems to be the fashion of the day. O Dr. Freud, O Dr. Freud! Do you mean to say that you have never hoid? The position you suggest, is in fact the very best -- I deny it, Mr. Ellis -- You should try it, Dr. Freud! O Mr. Ellis, O Mr. Ellis! Does a naked woman make you stand erect? When you're reading Pushkin's verse And she diddles you or worse, Does it bother or disturb your intellect? O Dr. Freud, O Dr. Freud! My reactions are extremely anthropoid; And the sight of her behind Forces Pushkin from my mind -- Forces Pushkin, Mr. Ellis? -- Pushes foreskin, Dr. Freud! from Gershon Legman, "Bawdy Monologues," Southern Folklore Quarterly #40 (1976) It is clearly based on minstrel show comic dialogs, a parody of Gallagher and Shean's trademark routine. The first half was published in 1927. The second half surfaced in 1947. |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Abby Sale Date: 16 May 01 - 09:20 AM Mary in Kentucky: Totally agree except that, incomprehensibly, "Lang A-Growing" is on the list of ballads Child might have included but didn't. |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 16 May 01 - 09:46 AM Abby, thanks for correcting that! Don't anybody acknowledge that bit of misinformation. I jumped a little too fast when I saw it had DT number. |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Mrrzy Date: 16 May 01 - 11:59 AM I really like the hostile baby-rocking song, I need the tune, if anyone has it... not for class, for me! Thanks, keep'm coming, I have a whole career here... |
Subject: Lyr Add: I'D RATHER MAKE A REVOLUTION From: Charley Noble Date: 16 May 01 - 12:01 PM This is more of a mid-life crisis song, not something that any well-balanced Mudcatter could relate to, I'm sure. For reasons I'd rather not discuss, I had Paul sing this song at my wedding a few years back. I'D RATHER MAKE A REVOLUTION (Lyrics by Paul Emery of Lansing, Michigan, circa 1980 Second verse & minor word changes by Charlie Ipcar in 1995 Tune: after Alice's Restaurant (think ragtime) Key: C) (C)Well, I went down to see my shrink; She said, "(F)Boy, have you got (C) any money?" I said, "I've got Black & Blue Cross Insurance And, (D) sure, I can chip in the other five (G7)dollars." She said, "(C)Son, I know what's wrong with you; You don't (F)appreciate the privileged position you was (C)born to – White, male, (A)middle class, American, You (D) ain't got no (G)reason to (C) holler." Chorus: (C)But I said, "I'd rather make a revolution Than (F) fifty dollars an (C) hour; I'd rather make a good woman smile Than to (D)have her address me as 'Your (G7)Honor;' I'd (C) rather sing a song with my friends Than to (F) sell a lot of life in-(C) surance; Instead of becoming (A) Master of the World I (D) guess I'll just be- (G) come a (C) nuisance." "Get your pad, nurse," the doctor said, "I think this boy's insane. Evil spirits have infused The soft spots in his brain; He's obviously insecure; I bet he sucks his thumb; He's a no good, rotten, un-pa-tri-ot-ic; Bearded, Commie, bum." Chorus: v But I said, "I'd rather make a revolution Than fifty dollars an hour; I'd rather make a good woman smile Than to have her address me as 'Your Honor'; I'd rather sing a song with my friends Than to raise a lot of campaign dollars Instead of becoming Master of the World I guess I'll just pick and holler ." Well, gather 'round, friends, and listen to me And I'll give you a tip on the level; The trouble I've always had with success Is – I get bored in the middle; I start out fine; got my eye on the line; Got my nose right down to the grindstone; But it ain't long 'fore I'm singin' this song And the chorus goes something like this: Chorus: I'd rather make a revolution Than fifty dollars an hour; I'd rather make a good woman smile Than to have her address me as 'Your Honor'; I'd rather sing a song with my friends Than to sell a lot of vinyl siding; Instead of becoming Master of the World I guess I'll just keep on idling. Well, I joined that great march for Peace & Justice But I sure hated to give up the goodies; I took a bold step forward – And a wistful look back; But where I come from you knew what side you was on, And the side I was on turned out to be wrong; And the side that was wrong turned out to be right; I'd rather not switch, let's fight! Chorus: I'd rather make a revolution Than fifty dollars an hour; I'd rather make a good woman smile Than to have her address me as 'Your Honor'; I'd rather sing a song with my friends Than to sell a lot of Dot-Com syndications; Instead of becoming Master of the World I guess I'll just try meditation.
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Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Burke Date: 16 May 01 - 08:29 PM How about "A Boy Named Sue" or Helen Reddy's "Angie Baby" |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: dick greenhaus Date: 16 May 01 - 10:35 PM If you're looking for songs with Freudian themes, Child collected a bunch. Re Psychology/psychiatry, Lee Hayes used to sing "I don't want to be adjusted (to this world" Re symptoms, there's "Ain't it Great to be Crazy" And there's always Lehrer's Oedipus Rex |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Mark Cohen Date: 16 May 01 - 10:47 PM Mrrzy, I've just sent Joe Offer a Noteworthy Composer file of the Hostile Baby Rocking Song tune, as best I can remember it. If you send me your email address in a personal message, I'll send it to you directly. Let me know if you can use NWC or if you prefer a MIDI file. Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Abby Sale Date: 16 May 01 - 11:08 PM Matk Cohen: Me too! I've admired that text for years & wondered how it went. I developed a small collection of Hostile Baby Rocking Songs. They are world-wide, of course. Universal need. |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: Anglo Date: 17 May 01 - 12:46 AM I'm surprised no-one has posted "I had a shrink." I had a shrink and my shrink pleased me, I fed my shrink under yonder tree, And the shrink said, "Settle my fee, settle my fee." It's in an old Sing Out, Mar/Apr 74 if what I'm looking at is correct. |
Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs From: SeanM Date: 17 May 01 - 02:13 AM OK, while this one is not traditional folk, it is an acapella number that is near and dear to my heart... Uncorrected Personality Traits by Robyn Hitchcock.
Wonderfully whimsical. I won't post all of it, but here's a fragment: |
Subject: Lyr Add: LETTING IT GO From: KingBrilliant Date: 17 May 01 - 08:29 AM How about Bedlam Boys And here's the lyrics to my favourite therapy song that I wrote to cure myself of letting someone get to me (it worked too). Sort of an anti-paranoia song (to whatever tune fits): LETTING IT GO Breath on my neck of a woman that hates me And wishes I'd just go away Let alone smile, she can't even look at me Keeps herself turned right away And I can't imagine what I have done to her To make her think so bad of me But if there is one & I can't find the reason Then how many more might there be? But I'm letting it go, letting it go, Letting it go over my head And roll off my back, and roll off my back And sink away down and leave it for dead She wouldn't piss on me if I was burning She would just stand there and smile She would just wave at me if I was drowning Laughing aloud all the while It stoppers me up like a cork in a bottle Sucks all the joy from my day She's a nation of people who scorn and dislike me I wish that she'd all go away But I'm letting it go, letting it go, Letting it go over my head And roll off my back, and roll off my back And sink away down and leave it for dead Kris |
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