Help: Psychology songs

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Abby Sale
Date: 16 May 01 - 09:20 AM

Mary in Kentucky: Totally agree except that, incomprehensibly, "Lang A-Growing" is on the list of ballads Child might have included but didn't.

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Abby Sale
Date: 16 May 01 - 09:14 AM

How comfortable you'll be doing this in class, I can't imagine but it's clearly Folk. From the Happy! file for Havlock Ellis' birthday:

O Mr. Ellis, O Mr. Ellis!
Sex has peculiar angles, as you say;
But I don't see the idear of coitus from the rear,
Though it seems to be the fashion of the day.

O Dr. Freud, O Dr. Freud!
Do you mean to say that you have never hoid?
The position you suggest, is in fact the very best --
I deny it, Mr. Ellis --
You should try it, Dr. Freud!


O Mr. Ellis, O Mr. Ellis!
Does a naked woman make you stand erect?
When you're reading Pushkin's verse
And she diddles you or worse,
Does it bother or disturb your intellect?

O Dr. Freud, O Dr. Freud!
My reactions are extremely anthropoid;
And the sight of her behind
Forces Pushkin from my mind --
Forces Pushkin, Mr. Ellis? --
Pushes foreskin, Dr. Freud!

from Gershon Legman, "Bawdy Monologues," Southern Folklore Quarterly #40 (1976)

It is clearly based on minstrel show comic dialogs, a parody of Gallagher and Shean's trademark routine. The first half was published in 1927. The second half surfaced in 1947.

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Kim C
Date: 15 May 01 - 01:37 PM

Thanks Trapper! I really like Guy Clark. I need to get more familiar with his work.

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Trapper
Date: 15 May 01 - 01:22 PM

How about They're Coming To Take Me Away by Napoleon XIV??

Here's the link to the Guy Clark song Kim C. mentioned

Doctor Good Doctor

- Al

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Kim C
Date: 15 May 01 - 12:43 PM

I saw Guy Clark in concert years ago and he did a song about going to see a psychiatrist. It ended with the line, "Second best hundred dollars I ever spent." That's the first and only time I've ever heard it and don't even know the name.

Johnny Cash, I think, did a song about being in a mental hospital...

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Bill D
Date: 15 May 01 - 11:03 AM

John Hartford's "Have Mercy on my Poor Old Prurient Interest"

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 14 May 01 - 11:05 PM

For sibling rivalry, there's Rosalie Sorrels' I'm Gonna Tell. And, though it's often misinterpreted, I've always liked her Hostile Baby-Rocking Song. That's kind of the reverse of developmental psychology, but I think it fits.

Aloha,
Mark (developmental pediatrician)

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: pastorpest
Date: 14 May 01 - 10:37 PM

Ron Hynes' "Sonny's Dream" with the title character unwilling to break free and be his own person, a mother who holds on too tight, and an absentee father, ought to be psychological enough for anyone. Great song!

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 14 May 01 - 10:06 PM

Daily Growing about child marriages. Beautiful tune, and a Child Ballad, can you get more folky?

the second verse:

Father, dear father, you've done me great wrong
You have married me to a boy who is too young
I'm twice twelve and he is but fourteen
He's young, but he's daily growing.

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 May 01 - 09:10 PM

Developmental psych = study of changes in behavior or cognition or whathaveyou that correlate with age.

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Helen
Date: 14 May 01 - 07:48 PM

Well, they're not developmental psychology, but here are a few more suggestions.

I don't remember who sang any of them, by the way.

You Think I'm Crazy Don't You, Mama
The Lunatics are Taking Over the Assylum

And one we used to have on an old 78 record called The Lone Psychiatrist (like the Lone Ranger, but he comes and psychoanalyses people and then rides off into the sunset. Just searched for this - it was by Stan Freberg. The Honey Earthers was on the flip side.

Helen

Subject: Lyr Add: CHILD PSYCHOLOGY
From: Bullfrog
Date: 14 May 01 - 07:01 PM

Homer and Jethro made a good song called CHILD PSYCHOLOGY

When Ma and Pa was fast asleep and I'd start to squall
They'd grab me by my tiny feet and bang me agin' the wall
When I started cuttin' teeth and when I'd start to whine
They'd massage my little gums with good ol' turpentine

::chorus::
I wish that you could see, the way they treated me
I wish my folks had known about that child psychology

And when I got on their nerves and they could stand no more
Well, they'd just get the hammer and nail me to the floor
They'd pick me up and baby me when I'd start to yell
They'd tie a rock around my neck and throw me in the well

::chorus::

When they'd put me in the tub no one would ever see
If the water was too hot hot or was too cold for me
If I turned blue it was too cold they didn't care alot
They always knew that I'd turn red if the water was too hot

'course irony's a dangerous thing in the hands of children (drunks) and hillbilly singers.

HTML line breaks added --JoeClone, 2-Oct-01.

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: ddw
Date: 14 May 01 - 06:37 PM

There's Lyle Lovett's "Pontiac," about a vet psyching himself up to commit murder.

Also the Limeliters' "Gunslinger."

"When you were a child did the Cheyenne and Sioux
Refuse to play nicely with you?
Did you always feel you didn't belong?"

cheers,

david

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 14 May 01 - 06:03 PM

Here's one that seems to be about obsessive-compulsiveness and possibly delusion: LOOKING FOR MONEY.

If you want to cover all kinds of pathology, you've got to cover alcoholism. There is this thread: Wanted: Songs for alcoholics!, but I don't necessarily endorse all the songs in that thread, but there are some good ones.

There's also this thread: Traditional songs & madness which mentions some good songs.

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 May 01 - 05:36 PM

Cranky Yankee, I had indeed forgotten about Man Piaba, what a great song. The gibberish I ken as De Woman Piaba and de Man Piaba, de tam tam call but de lemon grass, De lily root, golly root, belly root unh! (grunted as only Harry Belafonte can grunt), and de famous randy scratch scratch.

I always liked the famous randy scratch scratch, so I don't really want to know I've got the gibberish wrong!

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 14 May 01 - 03:52 PM

As I have said before, I think David Bromberg's Someone Else's Blues is a pretty good description of clinical depression. Of course there are a lot of blues songs that describe depression, but most of them focus on something bad happening to the narrator, and causing him to "have the blues." Bromberg's song, by contrast, points out that blues or depression doesn't necessarily have an identifiable external cause. And it's clever and funny (sort of).

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Hollowfox
Date: 14 May 01 - 03:05 PM

Bob coltman's "Weaver Bird is in the DT. I can't think of a better example for the love/death concept in music. (I found it on a forumDT search of "Coltman"). If somebody has a way to get his song "Bruin's Going" to you, it would probably be a good one as well, but I don't think it's ever been put on an album.

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 14 May 01 - 02:22 PM

In Harry Belafonte's "Man Piaba" there's a verse:......

.Well it was clear as mud but it covered the ground
The confusion made me brain go round.
I thought I'd take a trip abroad, to Baden Bad and ask sigmund Freud

He said, "Son",

From your sad face remove the grouch,
Put the body up on the couch
I can see from your frustration a neurotic sublimation,
You see.........
Love and hate are psychosomatic
Your "Rorschak" shows you are peripetetic
It all started with a broken sibling in the words of the famous......Rudyard Kipling.

(there follows a line of gibberish) If you want the rest of the song, send me a PM.
br>My observation: Mental illness is when your asshole shrinks up over your head and you get a shitty outlook on life.

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: GUEST,aMOS
Date: 14 May 01 - 02:16 PM

C'mon:

Oh, Doctor Freud, Oh Doctor Freud
How we wish youhad been differently employed!
For the set of circumstances
Now enhances the finances
Of the followers of Doctor Sigmund Freud!

A

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 14 May 01 - 02:02 PM

I'm trying....I'm trying...folk is hard! Also, I'm not sure what developmental psychology is!

I Won't Grow Up from Peter Pan

All of Me

Subject: Lyr Add: I LOVE MY LIPS (from Veggie Tales)
From: mousethief
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:55 PM

Folk songs about psychology? Ain't gonna happen. Maybe Paxton.

Anyway since I like it so much I have decided to include the entirety of "I Love My Lips"

(NB: Everything by Larry is sung unless it specifically says "spoken")

Narrator: "One day while talking with Dr. Archibald, Larry confronts one of his deepest fears ..."

Larry: "If my lips ever left my mouth, packed a bag and headed south, that'd be too bad, I'd be so sad."

Archibald: "I see. That'd be too bad, you'd be so sad?"

Larry: "That'd be too bad. If my lips said 'adios, I don't like you I think you're gross,' that'd be too bad, I might get mad."

Archibald: "That'd be too bad, you might get mad?"

Larry: "That'd be too bad. If my lips moved to Duluth, left a mess and took my tooth, that'd be too bad, I'd call my Dad."

Archibald: "That'd be too bad, you'd call your Dad?"

Larry: "That'd be too bad."

Archibald: "Hold it. Did you say your father? Fascinating! So what you're saying is that if your lips left you ..."

Larry: "That'd be too bad, I'd be so sad, I might get mad, I'd call my Dad. That'd be too bad."

Archibald: "That'd be to bad?"

Larry: "That'd be too bad."

Archibald: "Why?"

Larry (spoken): "Because I love my lips." (Sung (scatting)): Yibedbopobidebabooyibedbopobidebabooo(etc)

Archibald (holding up an ink blot that looks unmistakably like a lip): "Oh my ... This is more serious than I thought. Larry, tell me, what do you see here?"

Larry (spoken): "Um, that looks like a lip."

Archibald (holding up another lip-like ink blot): "And this?"

Larry (spoken): "It's a lip!"

Archibald (flips rapidly through many ink blots, which look less and less like lips (one is a photo of Sonny Bono!)): "And this?"

Larry (to tune of William Tell Overture): "It's a lip, it's a lip, it's a lip lip lip! It's a lip, it's a lip, it's a lip lip lip! It's a lip, it's a lip, it's a lip lip lip. Liiiiiiiiiiiips. Lip lip lip."

Archibald: "Larry, tell me about your childhood."

Larry: "When I was just two years old I left my lips out in the cold and they turned blue. What could I do?"

Archibald: "They turned blue, what could you do?"

Larry: "Oh they turned blue. On the day I got my tooth I had to kiss my Great Aunt Ruth. She had a beard ... and it felt weird."

Archibald: "My, my. She had a beard and it felt weird?"

Larry: "She had a beard. Ten days after I turned eight, got my lips stuck in a gate. My friends all laughed." (Next part is spoken really fast): "And I just stood there until the fire department came and broke the lock with a crow bar and I had to spend the next six weeks in lip rehab with this kid named Oscar who got stung by a bee - right on the lip - and we couldn't even talk to each other until the fifth week because both our lips were so swollen, and when he did start speaking he just spoke Polish and I only knew like three words in Polish except now I know four because Oscar taught me the word for lip: Oofta."

Archibald: "Your friends all laughed ... Usta? How do you spell that?"

Larry (spoken): "I don't know."

Archibald: "So what you're saying is that when you were young ..."

Larry: "They turned blue, what could I do? She had a beard and it felt weird. My friends all laughed ... Oofta!"

Archibald: "I'm confused ..."

Larry (spoken): "I love my lips!" (sung): "Yibedbopobidebabooyibedbopobidebabooo(etc)"

Narrator: "This has been Silly Songs With Larry. Tune in next time to hear Larry say ..."

Larry (spoken): "Have I ever told you how I feel about my nose?"

Archibald: "Oh, look at the time!"

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:51 PM

Bert - yes, thanks!

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:48 PM

Thanks, Spaw, and will keep checking all these other helpful links. Think FOLK, though, folks...

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:47 PM

Wolfgang, great site, just not enough Folk. I'm sure the rest is more "in tune" with today's college students, but I can really only sing Folk. I'm gonna try Psycho Killer, though, I love that song...

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:44 PM

On gender differences, what about Peggy Seeger's I'm Gonna' Be An Engineer instead?

Here's the direct link to Pete's How Do I Know My Youth Is All Spent

Spaw

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:39 PM

How about that wedding tearjerker "Where are you going my little one?" A Kodak moment song.

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: GUEST,Margaret V at work
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:37 PM

There's Dar Williams' song about therapy,"What Do You Hear in These Sounds?" on her 1997 album "End of the Summer." Margaret

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: MMario
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:36 PM

What was the one Wyo-woman opened her concert with? "Pyschotherapy"? I think...

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:35 PM

Boy, post something, go to lunch, and look what happens. Will check out all links and get back to you. Wolfgang, yours looks bang-on. And yes, all, it was My Get Up And Go, thanks, I needed a handle to find it in the DT.

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: mousethief
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:31 PM

I'm ashamed I didn't think about this one earlier: "Asylum" by Supertramp ("Crime of the Century" album). "But don't arrange to have me sent to no asylum. I'm just as sane as anyone."

Virtually anything written by Roger Waters (ne Pink Floyd) that isn't about war is about insanity. See particularly "Total Eclipse" ("Dark Side of the Moon" album) -- "The lunatic is on the grass...."

"Toys in the Attic" (Aerosmith, album of the same name) of course.

And much, much more....

Alex

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:20 PM

PM Dharmabum, he has one that is a riot.

Also there was an old thread... in the last year... it was, I THINK, for a psych professional who was retiring... can't recall how it was titled though.

~S~

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: mousethief
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:20 PM

"Love my Lips" ("Veggie Tunes 2" CD) is a hilariously stereotypical psychoanalytic conversation between a very disturbed cucumber and his shrink (an asparagus stalk).

For developmental issues, why not "Sunrise, Sunset" from Fiddler on the Roof?

More to come.

Alex

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Bert
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:19 PM

Is this the sort of thing?

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:16 PM

You could try "Psycho Street" by Richard Thompson, but I'm not sure how well that would go over. Another by him is "Behind Grey Walls," about leaving someone in an asylum. Then there's "Crazy Man Michael," which he wrote back in the Fairport Convention days. Hell, RT probably has dozens of these. But they're all about severely twisted individuals, so I don't know if they would really work for you.

Of course, if you're feeling particularly energetic, you could launch into "I Wanna Be Sedated" by the Ramones. Your students might appreciate that one.

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: LR Mole
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:04 PM

Now I am old,my youth is all spent
My get-up-and-go has got up and went
In spite of it all, I'm able to grin
When I think of the places my get-up has been
(?)

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Wolfgang
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:03 PM

Psychology songs (a collection for university teachers)

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: Amergin
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:02 PM

Mrrzy, that get up and go one is in the dt I think....

Another one you might like to try is Cat's In The Cradle....

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: mousethief
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:00 PM

Well there's "Psychobabble" by the Alan Parsons Project (from the "Eye in the Sky" album).

There's the whole "Oedipus Tex" opera by PDQ Bach (from the "Oedipus Tex and Other Choral Calamaties" CD -- which also includes the choral piece, "How Many Psychiatrists Does It Take To Change a Light Bulb?").

"Twisted" (Joni Mitchell, "Court and Spark" album) is a classic ("My analyst told me/That I was right out of my head..."). This is also sung by Bette Midler but I don't know where.

I'll think of more soon and post back.

Alex

Subject: RE: Help: Psychology songs
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 14 May 01 - 12:51 PM

Do you mean, "My get up and go has got up and went"?

Subject: Psychology songs
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 May 01 - 12:48 PM

Last semester I taught Intro to Psychology, and when we were talking about the appropriate chapters, I sang Oedipus Rex (Tom Lehrer) and Dr. Freud (The Gateway Singers). Although I chickened out in the last class (I was going to do the Weavers' So Long It's Been Good To Know You), I've decided that it won't be a fluke.

I'm teaching developmental psych this summer. I know that for the gender differences I'll sing What Are Little Girls Made Of (all the verses, I know little girls/boys, young men/women, old men/women, and little babies; any other verses would be appreciated), but are there any other good psychology songs? How about that Pete Seeger one about getting old, anyone know what I'm talking about? Doesn't have to be developmental, in particular, although those would be most appreciated, just general psych stuff. Thanks, all you maniacs out there!