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Subject: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: GUEST,John Severan Date: 15 May 01 - 06:52 PM Hello, I've lurked here for a while and posted a few answers as a guest (my sysop doesn't allow cookies). I know that the mudcat is unique, but I was wondering if there are any comparable message boards on other topics? I'm particularly interested in finding one about gardening, and another that discusses philosophy as an academic pursuit. I'd be interested, however, to know if there are any other forums (about anything) which manage to create the same 'vibe' Many thanks John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: catspaw49 Date: 15 May 01 - 06:57 PM The software is great but the vibe is created by the users.............No, I don't know of anything else quite like it. I love the thread setup instead of the usual MB style.....much more conversational. Somewhere between chatroom and MB. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 15 May 01 - 06:57 PM No. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: catspaw49 Date: 15 May 01 - 07:08 PM I've always thought you had a nice way with words Fionn. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Clinton Hammond Date: 15 May 01 - 07:11 PM Yes.. the internet is FULL of MB's just as dear to their users as Mudcat is to the people who will protest the loudest at this post... Mudcat isn't really all that remarkable... I know of one for chainmaille, one for armour in general, one for Speculative Fiction, a few for the Lord Of the Rings movie... And if you're into Porn... there's a million movie/pic/story swap MB's out there who's archives put mudcat to shame... IF mudcat is a community, it's a nice small one in the sweep of a grand cyberspace world full of diversity!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Mountain Dog Date: 15 May 01 - 07:17 PM The nice thing is, we can each choose the virtual neighborhoods in which we hang out. I've been happy to be a part of and a participant in this one for five plus years so far. I think it's as remarkable as we choose to make it - and to date, I think that's pretty damn remarkable! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: GUEST,Nancy King at work Date: 15 May 01 - 08:08 PM If you're looking for a forum for gardening, try Gardenweb.com. It's broken down into lots of fairly specific categories, and I've gotten some good information there. It is not, however, a virtual community, as Mudcat is. People just ask gardening questions and answer them. Can't complain about that, I guess, but it's not as much fun as Mudcat. Cheers, Nancy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: GUEST,khandu Date: 15 May 01 - 08:16 PM Mudcat is addicting. You get to know some unique folk here. Plus, a lot of great info, on a multitude of subjects, is shared here. Yes, there are many discussion forums on the net. But why go for the lesser after you have experienced the best! khandu |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Gypsy Date: 15 May 01 - 08:19 PM In all my surfing, have found that Mudcat rules. Good luck on finding a good gardening one, would appreciate a PM on it when found. Thass what we does for a living. Or at least to make enough money to keep us in strings! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: wysiwyg Date: 15 May 01 - 08:30 PM Philosophy is discussed well by folks over at Beliefnet. Try www.beliefnet.com. Look around till you find a board within it that works for you, and check out the dialog group function for specific topic possibilities. I have described Beliefnet in other threads; perhaps it would be searchable through the Mudcat search box if you'd like to know more about its features from a user's view. Believe it or not, they even have someone who is somewhat analogous to our Catspaw. Just look for TheMadOne and say "hi from Praise" for me. (I lost my cookie over there!) ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Mark Cohen Date: 15 May 01 - 08:43 PM 'Spaw, she called you a damn nalogous! I wouldn't take that lying down... Aloha, Mark |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Peg Date: 15 May 01 - 08:55 PM I have never seen anything quite like it and I consider myself very web-savvy. I do wonder; those who think it is "not all that remarkable" still post here; why?
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Jon Freeman Date: 15 May 01 - 09:16 PM I would guess that what makes Mudcat unique (or probably more realistically, unusual) is the (generally lack of) censorship policy Max has here coupled with the willingness to accept off topic suff. I have mixed feelings on many issues related to the above but generally speaking, I have to say that this site works well and I admire Max's work and the input of many.... Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: catspaw49 Date: 15 May 01 - 09:18 PM My gaws Mark!!! Can you help me up off the floor here? I'm a nallygus!!! What a bummer!! I'm completely shot here.....gobsmacked............a goner! What can I do?................A Nallygus..............damn Wizzywig, that's really low.................I'm feeling nauseated........Is that part of the Nallygus syndrome? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: WyoWoman Date: 16 May 01 - 12:07 AM We had a nallygus hide sofa once, but it was hard to clean. ww |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Bert Date: 16 May 01 - 12:10 AM Save the Nallygus! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: wysiwyg Date: 16 May 01 - 12:16 AM You dozey lot can't even read! "... they even have someone who is somewhat analogous..." TheNallygus is not SPAW, it's TheMadOne! Why do you think he's so mad? Crimenee! *G* I think I better say this before someone else does-- shorthand at Beliefnet for its own name is Bnet, so I s'pose we here would occasionally be BSnet. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: ddw Date: 16 May 01 - 12:16 AM Geez, Spaw — I didn't think a nallygus was all that bad. Matter of fact, I thought it was a rank just below Grand Exalted Pooh-Bah. But maybe that was a Nonnymus that I'm thinking of. david |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Clinton Hammond Date: 16 May 01 - 12:17 AM "I do wonder; those who think it is "not all that remarkable" still post here; why? "
Just to get up your ass and chuckle about it Peg! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: John Hardly Date: 16 May 01 - 07:40 AM I participate in a forum that is more receptive to me and the way I write--therefore, I perceive it as generally friendlier than the mudcat. The reason I come back and lurk at the mudcat is generally because of the superb level of writing here. JenEllen, PeterT, LonesomeEJ, Gary T, Mark Clark, and Don Firth are unmatched elsewhere. There are also a few here like Rick F and catspaw49 who dispense their knowledge with caring and wit. As I mentioned in the "BS" thread, most of the unwanted BS would drop off in a week if the poster's name appeared with the thread title (I mention this relative to why this site is different)--this site usually recognizes a good poster within their first 5 posts and only gets irritated to take the time to call up a thread, only to find it was started by someone whom they decided was already less than interesting/worth their time. JH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Brian Hoskin Date: 16 May 01 - 07:55 AM I've been lurking around the Mudcat since 1997 and I still am. No other site has kept my attention this long. Brian |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Jon Freeman Date: 16 May 01 - 08:19 AM I guess we all have our own mileages John and mine are rather different to yours. I would still open a thread on the merit of the thread title and, if I think a thread may be of iterest to me, I would read it regardless of the originator. As for the quality of writing, quite frankly, I couldn't really care less. All I care about is reading the points or facts and I just want something that get them quickly and in a manner that is easily understandable to me. If anything, I find "quality writing", humour or wit can sometimes get in the way of that. I know I am being a little argumentative here but I find the suggestion that posters should effectively be rated and ignored if they failed to "come up to standard" unpleasant. Jon
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: John Hardly Date: 16 May 01 - 08:42 AM "I would still open a thread on the merit of the thread title and, if I think a thread may be of iterest to me, I would read it regardless of the originator...find the suggestion that posters should effectively be rated and ignored if they failed to "come up to standard" unpleasant." Jon, I certainly agree with the sentiment--I was really making an observation that I think is true. MOST people here edit their reading according to WHO posts.
"As for the quality of writing, quite frankly, I couldn't really care less. All I care about is reading the points or facts...I find "quality writing", humour or wit can sometimes get in the way of that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Bill D Date: 16 May 01 - 08:44 AM John Severan....here is a source page for Philosophy discussions and lists...they note 5 web-based forums. (Wish I was still able to participate...haven't discussed Philosophy 'seriously' in 30 years, since my Masters thesis on A.N. Whitehead ground to a stop under the pressures of earning a living) hope you find one that suits you there |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Pseudolus Date: 16 May 01 - 08:48 AM I can'r repect ANY MB site that would have me as a member!!!! *BG*
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Bill D Date: 16 May 01 - 08:52 AM (just as an aside...what I did to find that site was to go to http://www.alltheweb.com and do a search on the 'exact phrase' "Kantian morality" ...that gets you text OF discussions instead of just titles or biographies of philosophers.....there are many other phrases which would have done as well. I once found a gardening forum by searching on the phrase "Maple roots" *grin*....someone answered me within hours about how much I dared chop on the roots of this Maple that was eating my lawn. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Charley Noble Date: 16 May 01 - 09:14 AM Of course, in the not too distant future the wit of this site may only be expressed as "CLICK HERE" and "HERE ALSO" but then I suppose that is not necessarily a problem. ;-() |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: kendall Date: 16 May 01 - 09:24 AM I misread that as analgauche. That's our Spaw! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Bagpuss Date: 16 May 01 - 11:16 AM I've discussed every topic under the sun at a film site called Mr Cranky Rates the Movies. You have to know where the good conversations are at though (look out for a few key names) because it is also full of a load of juvenile idiots. They are fun to tease though. KT |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Clinton Hammond Date: 16 May 01 - 11:24 AM Good one Frank! LOL!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 16 May 01 - 01:16 PM I find the way the Mudcat is organised is easier to get around in and more flexible than anything else I've come across. That's not its only appeal of course, but it is important. News groups I've come across always feel clumsy and unwieldy, even when there are intersting people talking about interesting things.
So are there any sites out there which use the approximately the same kind of system that Max has set up for us here? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Peter T. Date: 16 May 01 - 02:33 PM I have never found a site as technically clean as this for carrying on discussions, and I have trecked around a lot. That is apart from the great people, music, and ideas. As I have said many times, the technical ease is all Max, and without it this place would not work. I think it is absolutely brilliant. He should be a zillionaire. yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Bert Date: 16 May 01 - 02:52 PM OK Guys (that's Guys in it's Western usage which includes Gals), - THIS IS IMPORTANT - here's a job for each one of you. When you find a site that has some kind of bulletin board which is not as well organized as Mudcat. Please send them a message directing them here and telling them that the software (and hosting) that runs Mudcat is available for sale at a reasonable price and tell them to make contact with Max if they are interested. This won't make Max a Zillionaire but it may just keep Mudcat alive. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: MMario Date: 16 May 01 - 02:54 PM been there, done that. *grin* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Bill D Date: 16 May 01 - 02:58 PM got it, Bert!...( I think I asked about this 2-3 years ago...seems like I remember Max saying he had 'given' the basic setup to a deserving charity or 2)...but I'd think that this would be WELL worth some invertment for some places |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: wysiwyg Date: 16 May 01 - 03:22 PM You can implement Bert's request more effectively if you provide a set of links to some of the key features. But some of the best features are only visible to a registered member. I am curious if a membership could be devised that we could lend to such visitors-- give them the password, etc. A username that we would all know means, "Visitor on Deck Just Previewing Mudcat Software." Visitor (Mudcat Software Previewer) Or a permathread dedicated to visitors of this sort, and we could send a link to that thread which would then give a guided tour via links of Mudcat features. Bert, Max had a demo site one could explore around in, but it lacked enough content within it for a potential buyer to get a grasp of how it might work for them. I posted in it to try to build it up, but never got a reply. I would be willing to do more in that direction if possible. I would also like to be able to give people I meet IRL a brochure about Mudcat or a business card that would pass the URL on to them. Something in the hand is usually more memorable than a site name mentioned in passing among a lot of other conversation. I carried post-it's in my case for awhile but these didn't work-- need the logo and such. To create such promotional stuff I would start from the homepage and edit down from there, plus edit in a few samples of various things. And I am volunteering to start that project. What DOES Max have in printed literature form, about his genius? ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Hollowfox Date: 17 May 01 - 11:19 AM John S., what other topics are you interested in? If another 'Catter shares an interest in that topic, they could let you know what they've found. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: marty D Date: 17 May 01 - 11:37 AM Boy, if "quality writing, humor and wit" are DRAWBACKS to enjoying this site, there's something seriously wrong. There are lots of people here who share music AND have a personality. There are new "gathering places" opening up every day on the net, but I haven't found one that compares to Mudcat. Have to be careful not to get hooked. marty |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: mousethief Date: 17 May 01 - 12:22 PM The plural of "nallygus" is "nallygi." Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: MMario Date: 17 May 01 - 12:28 PM no, I'm sure the nallygi it the person hired to pound nails. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: mousethief Date: 17 May 01 - 12:43 PM No, MMario, you're thinking of Nailyguy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: wysiwyg Date: 17 May 01 - 01:02 PM tonguetwister's sister, NailyGoil. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: GUEST,DrWord@skool Date: 17 May 01 - 01:06 PM I have lurked | contributed | lurked AND linked to Mudcat for many years. I agree with Brian Hoskin : MC keeps drawing me back. I sing the praises of both the site and max's handiwerk! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Jim the Bart Date: 17 May 01 - 01:38 PM Spaw is not "a nalagous". Rather Spaw is "an alagous", the plural of which, as Mousethief pointed out, is "an alagi", or in the common spelling "An alley guy". Probably refers to a guy coming from or belonging in an alley. Not inappropriate (and I say that with all due respect). Regarding the question at the top of this thread: Haven't found a place to compare with this yet! A special place with truly special people. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Kim C Date: 17 May 01 - 05:41 PM I belong to iVillage, which has several message boards on a lot of topics, mostly related to girl stuff. They even have a Tattoo message board! Anyway I like that all right, but the conversations aren't nearly as lively as they are here, and I like to conversate. (?) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 17 May 01 - 08:10 PM As the lad said down in Ponchartrain, "If it weren't for them Nallegyspaws, I'd sleep out in the wood." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Bert Date: 18 May 01 - 01:20 AM Conversate! what a lovely word. I'll have to remember that one. And actually, Spaw is an algae |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Night Owl Date: 18 May 01 - 01:55 AM nope |
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 20 May 01 - 08:10 PM Algy met the bear, the bear met algy, the bear was bulgy - the bulge was algy.
Here's a website which has possibilities - family village
It's a good place to get information to do with disability and such, and I know there are a lot of us on the Mudcat who have reasons to be interested in that - but if I want to talk about things to do with that kind of thing, I'd probably sooner do it on the Mudcat, where there's what feels to me a much more user-friendly use of technology, even if superficially it looks less flashy. And also a stronger sense of community too, which is odd when you think about it.
In both cases there's a situation where there is a common concern that binds people even when they are in disagreement about other things, and you'd have thought that the common concern around disability would make for a stronger community than that around music, and in the 3D world it can be. But it doesn't seem to work that way on the net, at least in my experience.
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Subject: RE: BS: Do any other sites compare with Mudcat? From: Jon Freeman Date: 20 May 01 - 08:58 PM Re tech and user interface, InfoPopup make a range that I quite like. Perhaps the most obvious difference between their set up and Mudcat is that these boards introduce another layer allowing for multiple forums. They make the UBB system which is seems to be quite popular for users to host on their own web site, but I feel has weaknesses in the file structure. They also supply a hosted solution which looks similar to UBB but, like Mudcat, uses a relational database (Oracle in this case) to store the information - all at a cost of course! A nice little freebie that I feel has good posibilities and I have managed to get running and "host" using my own PC, Personal Web Server and a 28.8K phone line (not for long) is at ASP-dev.com. Jon |