Keith Brown where are you

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,haycroft avenue
Date: 29 Nov 09 - 06:05 PM

Heh Heh John Skryp eh? I remember you from Hereford school, you didn't go to Macaulay though did you? - or did you? I also remember seeing you with Shoreline in 1970 at the Mucky Duck Folk nights in Grimsby, I did a couple of singer's nights. Sorry to hear that Liam has gone, he held it all together well didn't he? I also remember talking to you at the South Parade youth club in 1968/9 when the local pop band "Arthur J. Crombie's Musical Experiment" supplied the music. You lived very near to Paul Hammond as a young lad didn't you? I think it was Paul who introduced me to you about 1966. well then who am I? Hope that you're gonna check out this long dormant thread sometime soon. Cheers then, from Mr X

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Shoreliner
Date: 18 Dec 07 - 08:13 AM

Thanks for the update Big a. I'm very sorry to hear of Liam's passing. His contribution to the music in the Grimsby area will always be fondly remembered by many of us who were on the scene in the 70's and early 80's. Farewell tae Tarwathie.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,big a
Date: 17 Nov 07 - 06:47 AM

Rob is well and living in Leeds last I heard and still working with Battlefield band. Sad new is that Liam Duffy is no longer with us having died earlier this year.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 03:24 PM

Keith is resposibile (or culpable in my case) for getting quite a number of people playing.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Ruston Hornsby
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 08:23 AM

My memories of Keith are of small sessions in the back room of the "Nottingham" in Sea View Street, Cleethorpes. Anyway, somebody was asking about Rob van Sante. I last saw him in Whitby about 10 years ago and he was working for the Battlefield Band in some capacity. I wonder if he still has the green Volvo Amazon?

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Ken
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 10:37 AM

Strange what you can find on the internet - is that Keith Brown of 'Jacks Maggot' fame? . A later band which played at the Sub on a Sunday night in the early 80's.

If so I was just talking about you the other day as you were the person who through Liam Duffy got me playing guitar and mandolin - I recently found a tape of you playing the tunes for me to learn., a photo of the band and a recording of my first live appearance.

I moved up to Durham some 20 years ago and have recently started playing again, not quite back to first base but having to get those fingers working again.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 05:32 PM

You trying to find out who you are Keith?

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: Shoreliner
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 12:39 PM

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: Shoreliner
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 12:38 PM

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: Shoreliner
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 05:22 PM

So,

All mysteries apparently solved, Xcept! Burl, I presume is Dave Burland, how are you mate? LR Mole, Is that you Liz? Last I heard Liz had buggered off to tyneside with a radio ham. Radio hams are to society what Steve Davis is to human interest!!. PS I used to be one before I became a folk singer which I have long since ceased being and Am now coaching rugby. Any body want to argue?

Regards, and god bless all, my final word on this thread, unless you can Inspire me otherwise. Keith

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 17 Jun 01 - 05:52 AM

Shoreliner, I have sent you two emails already, but I guess that you haven't received them. I will try phoning you shortly. P.S Sorry for nicking your old songs but if you can't beat em join em!!

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: Shoreliner
Date: 16 Jun 01 - 03:32 PM

Well that's two mysteries solved, we PC, PD and myself (KB) all know the identities of The Captain and Topsey. Would the rest of you care to elucidate as to your involvement with this terrible trio. I'm nearly sure that Vista = Topsey, judging by requests for words of songs that I used to sing, In Manchester that city of cotton twist and twill.

So, you can, if you wish, Email me under my nick on this site. I'll be in contact.

What a great adventure this trace has been. Regards all, Keith.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 16 Jun 01 - 03:54 AM

Actually I did consider sending a pint throughthe post but I couldn't remember the address!!

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 15 Jun 01 - 01:25 PM

Borrowing? I suppose you've been back to pay it back!

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 14 Jun 01 - 06:54 PM

The only thing I rememberabout Wolverhampton is borrowing a pint of milk from the doorstep on the way back from a wedding. At least I think that was Wolverhampton!!

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 14 Jun 01 - 06:36 PM

Heavens forfend, Topsey, I fear your personality has a three way split. But don't play the innocent with me you foul feind. I know you of old remember. I recall clearly the evil deed you carried out in Wolverhampton. Can you?

Captain Swing

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Vista
Date: 14 Jun 01 - 05:57 PM

No surely it was that Clayton lad wasnt it? Telco has a habit of repeating himself.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Telco
Date: 14 Jun 01 - 05:55 PM

Actually as I recall it was not I that stoned Jeffrey Archers house if my memory is correct that was down to GB

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Telco
Date: 14 Jun 01 - 05:54 PM

Actually as I recall it was not I that stoned Jeffrey Archers house if my memory is correct that was down to GB

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 14 Jun 01 - 04:18 PM

By gad sir, its a fair cop!!

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 14 Jun 01 - 02:20 PM

I think Topsey that you have more than a passing association with Brigsley, are well versed in the use of a soldering iron, were an accessory in the misappropriation of a "To The Zoo" sign and the stoning of Jeffery Archer's house and endured a long walk back to Louth late one night following a visit to the 'Splash'. I'm I correct in any of this?

Captain Swing

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 13 Jun 01 - 06:58 PM

I am afraid to admit that the biscuit crumbs do not mean anything to me,but the mind works overtime wondering.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 06:24 PM

Now then Telco, look what you've started. And where the devil is Topsey now. Perhaps you two are not able to appear at the same time. I wonder why?

Does anyone know the answer to this question - "What is the significance of biscuit crumbs and what was the name of the other party involved?

Only Keith and one other person will be able to answer that.

Topsey, I'm now hedging my bets between Skryp and Pete Dale.

Cheers - Captain Swing

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Telco
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 05:39 PM

Hello everyone,

I have been away for a while, but now Im back.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 03:29 PM

Hi Mole

I'd like to confront Telco but the bugger has disappeared into the ether. The strange Skryp can be encountered at www.moincoin.free-online.co.uk. However, I can assure you that Geoff(the otter man) and Keith are stranger still. I am also beginning to suspect that, despite Topsey's claims, he and Bugs are the same being. But perhaps they don't know that!

Captain Swing

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 03:18 PM

Hi Mole

I'd like to confront the sinister Telco but the bugger has disappeared - I still think he/she is in league with Topsey. The strange Skryp can be viewed at www.moincoin.free-online.co.uk. However, I assure you that Geoff and Keith are stranger still. Also, I'm beginning to think that despite his claims, Topsey and Bugs are one and the same - but maybe they just don't know it.

Captain Swing

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: LR Mole
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 11:49 AM

I feel like I'm evesdropping. Will Geoff find Keith? What sort of being is named Skryp? Has the Captain confronted the sinister Telco? Tune in next week for As the Liz Grahams!

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 05:23 PM

Then you've got to be Skryp or Geoff Lyles. Money is on Skryp.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: Sooz
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 02:20 PM

Louth Folk Club meets at the White Swan on the 2nd and 4th Tuesdays of every month and is very busy. Sorry to break into the conversation with this snippet!

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 01:34 PM

Captain. If you don't know now you never will!!

Try the guitar. mandolin, and the fool.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 10 Jun 01 - 06:20 PM

You haven't answered my last question Topsey.

Captain Swing

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 10 Jun 01 - 12:46 PM

Hi Captain and all others. Sorry for the delay in replying. The answer you require (who am I?) is written in the thread. Beware of red herrings.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 08 Jun 01 - 12:56 PM

When you played in this band with me, what did you play?

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 08 Jun 01 - 03:20 AM

I must admit I am at a loss to know who "bugs" is or was. You seem to be concentration on a narrow group of followers, perhaps you should spread the net slightly.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 07 Jun 01 - 07:05 PM

Is it you Bugs? And if it isn't, do you know who Bugs is?

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: Shoreliner
Date: 07 Jun 01 - 06:46 PM

Come on Topsy old thing, I think it's time you revealed all?

It occurs to me that, you have a keen memory of us but we have overlooked you. For that, for once in my life, I apologise.

So come on Scryp or Graham and stop arsing about, or is it Kevin?

Anyway, thanks for the intrigue. It was fun. Keith, why the hell are those two late again!!!, Brown

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: Shoreliner
Date: 07 Jun 01 - 06:42 PM

Come on Topsy old thing, I think it's time you revealed all?

It occurs to me that, you have a keen memory of us but we have overlooked you. For that, for once in my life, I apologise.

So come on Scryp or Graham and stop arsing about, or is it Kevin?

Anyway, thanks for the intrigue. It was fun. Keith, why the hell are those two late again!!!, Brown

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsy Turvey
Date: 07 Jun 01 - 05:45 PM

Dear Captain

Yes and Yes

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 07 Jun 01 - 04:48 PM

Are you male, Topsy? Have you played in a band with me?

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 07 Jun 01 - 02:01 AM

I can tell your mind is now racing Captain. In answer to your question-yes I am male or female and Egmond as I recall was a guitar.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 06 Jun 01 - 07:34 PM

Hi Keith and Topsey et al

Good to hear from you Keith. I must admit, that sounds a bit more like you. Now whoever Topsey is it can't be Dave E, Liam D or even Graham as he/she claims to have known me before I knew you. We know it's not Pete Dale as he has sent a post and I'm in e-mail contact with him anyway. Also, Pete wasn't going to Louth when I was. I don't think it's Skryp - I don't think Skryp would remember my brothers' names. I thought it was Liz at one point but she would have known the answer to the mandolin question as she bought the bloody thing for £5!

Keith, we'll have to work together on this. Topsey, are you male or female? Do you know who or what Egmond was?

Cheers - Captain Swing

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 06 Jun 01 - 07:27 PM

Well finally heard from the man himself. Unfortunately Brian Masson is a little too young to remember all these details first hand Dave Evardson and certainly Liam Duffy are both a little to old. So it seems Keith that you are as perplexed as Captain Swing.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Keith Brown
Date: 06 Jun 01 - 07:14 PM

My dear old friend, I am moved by you all with the regard in which you obviously hold me (or the curiosity as to whether I have finaly disappered up my my own arse hole with a cry of "When the hell are you going to get rid of Egmond"

Now you really know who you are talking to!

However, the instigator of your taunts is not I.

Could be Brian Masson. who works for Telecom, but I doubt it because this chap knows more about all of us than Brian would.

What about Dave Evardson? or even Liam Duffy for that matter. But of course it could be GB himself!!

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 06 Jun 01 - 07:01 PM

P.S As for Telco your guess is as good as mine!!

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 06 Jun 01 - 07:00 PM

I am so sorry Captain but you are barking up the totally wrong tree. I am not Keith. I really have wanted to get in touch with him. I am known to you however and we go way back, even before Keith.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 06 Jun 01 - 04:56 PM

You Bugger !!!!!

After I logged off last night I went over the posts and the style of language (rather polite for you though) and I was 80% sure it was you, you crafty old sod. Then there was Telco! Why no words of thanks from him/her for finding all this information? But it's all in the name isn't it? TELICOM

How are you Keith? What are you up to? How long have you been on Mudcat

Pete

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 06 Jun 01 - 01:35 PM

E-Lad I am very suprised, I am not sure what further clues I can give you, maybe you ask John or Paul.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 06:35 PM

No - It didn't belong to Geoff, Topsey. If you were who I thought you were you would know that it belonged to Steve Clayton, Vicky's husband at the time.

Give me a clue then.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 06:14 PM

Captain- I am not sure but I rather think that your mandolin was previously Geoff Lyles

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 05:31 PM

Sorry Vista, I sent you here probably by mistake. I thought you wanted to know more about the old Grimsby crowd.

Cheers - Captain Swing

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 05:25 PM

Well Topsy, I have my suspicions about your identity but I'm not going to commit myself yet. I'm not sure if you threw in a red herring earlier on to get me off the scent.

Now if you can answer this trivia question about me it may confirm things. I was bought a mandolin for my 18th birthday. Who did it belong to before that?

As for my history - I stayed in Dudley until 1984 then moved to Hull. Started Cottingham Folk Club in 1985 which I continued to run until 1994. Then started working as one half of a Celtic-Rock pub duo called The Ballistic Brothers initially but later changed to False McCoy. We have continued to get fairly regular gigs over the last six years playing in pubs, golf clubs, weddings etc. I play fiddle, guitar and mandola.

Cheers - Captain Swing

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,vista
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 04:46 PM

I have been directed to this thread as I am seeking info on Rob Van Sante who came over from Holland and used to play with Silver Birch at one time, It was suggested that there was some info in this thread but I seem to have missed it. Has anyone and idea where Rob is these days?

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 02:09 PM

Well now Captain, I am really amazed that you have not as yet worked it out, but I am pleased that looking for Keith has brought back memories for others as well as you and me. I am now wondering who Burl is, and have I seen him as a guest in Louth, Grimsby or Cleethorpes? Incidently Burl my understanding of the present Louth situation is that the folk club there split into two, a musicians club playing tunes and a singers club held at different pubs on different days, and presumably never the twain do meet!! A pity.

As for you Mr. C what are you doing these days.Still performing?

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 08:54 AM

Reading this thread is nostalgic for me. I sang as a guest at Louth, Cleethorpes, Grimsby, many times over the years, though it's now near enough ten years since I was last in that region. I'm not sure about Keith, but remember are the Broadside lads, and Stan & Cath Compton, and I remember hearing Silver Birch. Had an album of theirs once. The last time I wa at Louth folk club it was run by Dominic Duffy. Is it still running?

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 04 Jun 01 - 03:54 PM

And where the devil is Telco - he started all this!

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 04:05 PM

And where do you fit into this complicated tapestry, Fat?

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: fat B****rd
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 03:29 PM

I'm from Cleethorpes

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 12:32 PM

The best site to catch up on John Skrypniuk (Skryp) is http://www.mooncoin.free-online.co.uk

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 12:06 PM

What an amazing memory you have Topsy, though a little inaccurate on this one. It was Keith who was referred to by me as a masterbaker (having supposedly taken a job at Glentons). I used to try to corpse him when he was introducing songs - I think I succeeded with this one.

You have so much information that, unless you were permanently tape recording everything, you must have known us all very well. Come on - own up, reveal yourself!

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 08:41 AM

I think I remember you now Captain. Were you not at one time a masterbaker?

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 08:08 AM

Topsy

After sending my last post I went to the pub (for a change) and it came to me in a flash - 'Here's to the Grimsby Lads', of course. I think it was actually written by Skryp - he also played it at the Dolphin some Sundays and substituted 'folk club' for 'Poacher'.

Liz and I were engaged for a time but we split up after I went to the Midlands. I think she got married and moved to the North East. Does anyone out there know where Liz is?

Graham lives in Slough now and is a software writer.

Skryp is in Norwich. I think he is a radiographer. There is a website somewhere with pictures and info about Skryp. I'll find it later and post it.

So, Topsy, who are and were you!!!

Captain Swing

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Petedale
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 04:50 AM

I remember Keith from the old days. In fact he was responcible for getting me started performing in folk clubs with one of his bands Solid Oak back in the late 70s I haven't been in touch with him since he moved to the Leeds area way back when but if any one knows him I wouldnt mind getting back in touch.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 06:31 PM

Captain:

The answer to my first question, which evades you now is "here's to the Grimsby Lads down at the Poacher, here's to the lads who play there every week, creaking and groaning and fidling and tuning, all night long and the audience asleep". You memory however serves you well in respect of the formation and continuation of Shoreline. What ever hapened to Liz? I know Graham went on to form his own computer company in the Midlands somewhere, and Skrypnuk was last heard of residing in a nurses home attached to a hospital!! As to your last question of who was I, I can only reply that I still am.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 04:51 PM

I am sober now Topsy but I can still only answer one of your questions. Keith's most well known band was Shoreline. I joined in 1971 when Keith's brother Graham (banjo and whistle) and John Skrypniuk (anything with strings on) were about to go to university (Nottingham and Bangor repectively).

That left the band as a trio comprised of Keith, Liz Smith (vocals) and me. Keith later roped in Geoff Lyles who stayed for a short time and then formed Silver Birch. Geoff was replaced by Derek Rushmer who also stayed for a short time and also defected to Silver Birch. By this time Keith had changed the name of the band to Contra - not a good move. Around April 1973 Liz and I left to form a band with Max Bradley(fiddle). I can't remember what we were called but Keith was kind enough to give us a gig. I disappeared to college in Dudley in September 1973.

Before I joined the band one of the members was none other than Vicky Clayton who later joined Skryp in Ragged Heroes and, more famously, sang with Fairport.

Anyway, who were you, Topsy.

Captain Swing

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsey Turvey
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 04:05 AM

I'm all out of Keith's trivia questions but Captain Swing what was the name of the resident band fronted by Keith at the Poacher? Also what was the tribute song to Louth Folk Club a copy of a John Connoly composition? If you can pass these questions now try them again when your sober and see if you get the same answer!!

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 01 Jun 01 - 08:54 PM

When I'm sober I can spell 'where' properly sometimes!

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 01 Jun 01 - 07:58 PM

After sending that post, on my way to the pub, I thought - "Were the hell was the Robin Hood?" Of course it was the Lincolnshire Poacher! I was hoping I could recitfy it before some bright spark corrected me.

As far as the old age goes, I was the youngest member of the band. And who are you, Topsy?

Ask me a Keith Brown trivia question and I'll try to proove my credibility.

Cheers - Captain Swing

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Topsy Turvey
Date: 01 Jun 01 - 05:39 PM

Re this band at the Robin Hood, I fear your memory is playing tricks on you in your obvious old age. It may have been the Lincolnshire Poacher. Dont know where Keith is now though.

Subject: RE: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 01 Jun 01 - 04:43 PM

Hi Telco

I used to be in Keith's band at the Robin Hood pub in Louth. We are still in Christmas card contact so if you e-mail me at [e-mail] I can put you in touch with him. Does anyone else remember the old sod?

Cheers - Captain Swing

Subject: Keith Brown where are you
From: GUEST,Telco
Date: 01 Jun 01 - 02:54 PM

Does any one know where I can contact Keith Brown who used to live in Cleethorpes and run a folk club originally in Louth Lincolnshire and later at the Lifeboat in Cleethorpes. He moved from Cleethorpes some time ago and I lost touch with him. I would like to contact him again if any one can help.