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POVERTY

Stars 05 Jul 01 - 02:58 PM
catspaw49 05 Jul 01 - 03:00 PM
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Matt_R 05 Jul 01 - 03:04 PM
catspaw49 05 Jul 01 - 04:15 PM
GUEST,mmm1a 05 Jul 01 - 04:19 PM
wysiwyg 05 Jul 01 - 04:45 PM
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Subject: POVERTY
From: Stars
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 02:58 PM


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 03:00 PM

Yeah.....I got some here.....What do you want to know about it? A nominal charge will be levied for my answer.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 03:00 PM

?? Poverty povery knock, with always one eye on the clock?


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Matt_R
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 03:04 PM

Stars
In your multitudes
Scarce to be counted
Filling the darkness
With order and light
You are the sentinels
Silent and sure
Keeping watch in the night
Keeping watch in the night
You know your place in the sky
You hold your course and your aim
And each in your season returns and returns
And is always the same...


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 04:15 PM

BTW, if you need some, I'd be happy to share.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: GUEST,mmm1a
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 04:19 PM

SUCKS

Been there done that

still:(


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 04:45 PM

Stars, welcome to Mudcat. Check our FAQ thread at the top of the thread list-- way helpful.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Jeep man
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 06:33 PM

POVERTY? I was born during the depression. We were so poor we canned gravy for the winter.You can slice it when it is used, and use it for sandwiches. Jeep

Yes cold gravy gets REAL thick


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 06:52 PM

Why hell Jeepster, my family was so poor that every Spring we couldn't even afford kites!!! My Uncle would save his pennies and employ a drinking buddy of his to fly his kites for us. I have a picture of Uncle Guido standing out front of the local tavern. He was hirin' a kite.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Noreen
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 07:04 PM

Meaning what, please, Spaw?


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Matt_R
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 07:07 PM

It's a pun...


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Art Thieme
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 07:11 PM

If it wasn't for poverty, we wouldn't have nothin' !

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 07:15 PM

Don't Knock it.......It one of the few things money can't buy......

Spot.


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 07:30 PM

"I got plenty of nothin'".....


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: 8_Pints
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 07:32 PM

Hello Stars,

This verse from the Foreloom Weaver springs to mind ...

We held out for six weeks, thought each day were the last. We tarried and shifted til we were quite fast. We lived upon nettles while nettles was good. And Waterloo Porridge were best of us food.

The last line uses the Lancashire dialect and differs slightly from the DT version.

Of course, Waterloo Porridge, is water so Sue's mum told me once.

Bob vG


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: DougR
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 07:46 PM

This place never ceases to amaze me. I suppose somebody could start a thread titled, "Dirtdobbers," and some of us would have something to say about it. :>) DougR


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 07:54 PM

WEll, if you try it Doug, I'll certainly open it up to have a look.

Dirt Dobbers - a musician who never got the attention he craved. Very down to earth and true to his roots. Hated this modern "old timey" music

Or maybe - the "Dirt Dobbers" were militant miners, a bit like the Mollie Malone's, but from German stock.


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 07:55 PM

sure, Doug...except it's spelled 'dauber'


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 07:56 PM

Sorry Noreen.......To be drunk = "higher than a kite" and then you get the pun.........."hirin"="higher than".............Okay, so they ain't a;; great. I got that one from W.C.Fields so I was hoping for better............**sigh**..................

Spaw


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Angie
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 08:12 PM

i am the expert on poverty


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: InOBU
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 08:29 PM

I will sell you some of my poverty for $150,000 (US or Canadian - i don't mind) For that price I will throw in a live CD of my band Sorcha Dorcha (http://sorchadorcha.com ) for an extra 10 cents I'll throw in the whole band, freshly washed and ready to play.
Cheers
Larry


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Jeep man
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 08:32 PM

Good show Spaw! I am glad you are back in form. Uncle Jeep


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 08:39 PM

Yeah - but what form? Return of The Spaw


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Amergin
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 08:47 PM

ah, the joys of living on hotcakes...and staying home from school cause we couldn't afford the gas to get there....


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: GUEST,Dancing Mom
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 09:23 PM

Looked at poverty for so long, and I am SICK of it! I am thankful to be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel though, and in 6 months when I graduate from nursing school I am going to be OUTTA THERE!! I'm looking forward to having a car that doesn't conk out every week and finally taking my kid to the eye doctor and fixing up my run-down old house and going someplace FUN and being able to resume those guitar lessons. Oh, yeah! But, you know, as soon as I start feeling sorry for myself I have to take a good look around and put everything in proper perspective. ("If you think YOU'VE got it rough...") There IS that old joke about the child in the tenement housing who one day was watching his mother stuff newspaper in the broken windows to keep out the cold, and said' "Hey, Mom, what do the POOR people do that don't have any nice newspaper to stuff in their windows?" (Well, anyway, you get the idea.) Hang in there. Sharon


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: TishA
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 09:33 PM

So damn poor if I had a hearing aid it'd be on a party line.

So damn poor I can't pay attention.

Which reminds me............what ever became of a member named "homeless?"


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Noreen
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 09:50 PM

Thanks, Spaw- I geddit now. I'm SO happy.


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: kendall
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 09:54 PM

I came from a very large very poor family. The one who left the house first in the morning was the best dressed. There were 13 of us in a tiny house, Hell, I never slept alone 'til I was married. We were so poor, the town made us paint the house before they could condemn it.


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 10:04 PM

Poverty? It's what happens when people don't share. There's lots of it around here.

- LH


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Jeep man
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 10:25 PM


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 10:34 PM

" " to you too, Jeep man! :-)

- LH


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: harpgirl
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 10:56 PM

I like Epicurus' ideas about poverty and wealth. Friendship, freedom, and thought were much more valuable than anything money could buy beyond the bare necessities. Wealth may not make one miserable, but without friends, freedom, and an analysed life, we will never truly be happy.


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 11:21 PM

Freedom of spirit is the only kind that is possible when one lives in poverty. In my adult life, I've never lived above the poverty line. So I know.


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 11:23 PM

Hell, we were so poor, when turkey was ten cents a pound, daddy couldn't afford a raffle ticket on a jaybird's ass.

There were so many kids sleeping in one bed, that when you got up at night to pee, you had to leave a bookmark so you wouldn't lose your place.


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Allan C.
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 11:38 PM

I recently saw a re-run of "The Beverly Hillbillies" on which Jed (who at this point had not yet sold his oil-soaked land) said: "If money were skunk oil, a hound dog couldn't smell me."


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Jul 01 - 11:53 PM

Matt, you are amazing. Have you ever forgotten a song?

As for the rest of you, what I want to know is WHERE ARE THE RICH PEOPLE??

I don't think we were poor- they never told me.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Mudlark
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 12:11 AM

I thot for years that poverty was spelled "potter." I've not drawn a breath that didn't have money worries somewhere in it, for 30 years....which is how long I've been a craftsman, making a living on my own. I wouldn't trade those years for anything (altho I do have recurring baglady dreams more often than I'd like). But I could have enjoyed them even MORE with a few bob in my pocket!

Pa-ver-ty,,,,my god, I've got Pa...ver...teeeeeeee Can't afford a beer, dear,,,,,that's abundantly clear, dear....


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: DougR
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 12:22 AM

I know nothing of poverty. I am a conservative, and everybody knows, conservatives are rich. I'm rich! (well not with money but ...)

DougR


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Ringer
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 06:50 AM

What's an "analysed life", Harpgirl?


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Angie
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 07:08 AM

i'd rather be poor that morally bankrupt!


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: IanC
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 07:21 AM

You usually don't have the choice about being poor. Everyone's got the choice about "moral bankrupcy". Can't really compare the two!

;-)
Ian


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: English Jon
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 07:44 AM

Poverty is something of a relative term. I've got sod all cash, but I have got a mortgage on a very nice guitar, and a very unusual talking cat.

"Although I'm not rich I wont say that I'm poor/ I'm as happy as those that's got thousands or more"

etc.

EJ


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: LR Mole
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 07:58 AM

Well, as my aunt used to say, "Leave early: get a good coat."


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Jim Cheydi
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 08:04 AM

'If I hadn't seen such riches, I could live with being poor'


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Matt_R
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 08:32 AM

Good God Jim! I was thinking of those same lines last night! One of my all-time favorite songs!


Those who feel a breath of sadness, sit down next to me
Those who find they're touched by madness, sit down next to me
Those who find themselves ridiculous, sit down next to me...


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: pavane
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 08:38 AM

Just in case its useful Poverty Knock


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Mark Clark
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 10:16 AM

Hardluck poppa standing in the rain,
If the world was corn he couldn't buy grain.
Lord, Lord, got those Brown's Ferry Blues...

Another perspective.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: harpgirl
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 10:17 AM

BaldEagle...think about it! *wink*


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 10:25 AM

Thanks Pavane, indeed that was the one I was thinking of.

My X2B is kind of determinedly poverty-stricken, I think it's a badge of honor of some kind to prevent our kids from enjoying anything, in case it gets taken away (I'm reaching here, I don't get it at all...)- Is there such a thing as neurotic poverty?


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Subject: RE: POVERTY
From: MMario
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 10:31 AM

sure! fear of success - compulsive (financial) failure...


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