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Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s

Kevin Sheils 04 Jan 10 - 04:24 AM
Judy Dyble 03 Jan 10 - 06:29 PM
The Sandman 03 Jan 10 - 03:03 PM
The Sandman 03 Jan 10 - 02:50 PM
Herga Kitty 03 Jan 10 - 01:36 PM
John MacKenzie 03 Jan 10 - 12:35 PM
John MacKenzie 03 Jan 10 - 12:24 PM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 03 Jan 10 - 12:08 PM
Bonnie Shaljean 03 Jan 10 - 12:06 PM
Splott Man 03 Jan 10 - 11:15 AM
The Borchester Echo 03 Jan 10 - 09:18 AM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 03 Jan 10 - 09:14 AM
GUEST,Ralphie 02 Jan 10 - 08:35 PM
GUEST,Ralphie 02 Jan 10 - 08:23 PM
Valmai Goodyear 02 Jan 10 - 08:03 PM
GUEST,John 02 Jan 10 - 06:25 PM
GUEST,jim 19 Dec 09 - 03:46 PM
GUEST,geust jim 19 Dec 09 - 02:43 PM
Kevin Sheils 18 Dec 09 - 10:58 AM
Leadfingers 18 Dec 09 - 09:17 AM
GUEST 18 Dec 09 - 08:01 AM
GUEST,eric the viking 04 Dec 09 - 06:39 PM
Strider 04 Dec 09 - 05:26 PM
Leadfingers 01 Nov 09 - 02:32 PM
GUEST,Rick Rutkowski 01 Nov 09 - 01:53 PM
Oldguit 30 Oct 09 - 04:54 AM
Tug the Cox 27 Oct 09 - 08:11 AM
GUEST,John from Elsie`s Band 26 Oct 09 - 02:05 PM
GUEST,Clive Pownceby 26 Oct 09 - 02:02 PM
John MacKenzie 26 Oct 09 - 10:06 AM
ejerome 26 Oct 09 - 09:40 AM
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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 04:24 AM

Bridget Danby married Steve Danby in August August 1976. At the time she would have been going to Dingles she would have been Bridget Hogg, which name may ring more bells with the old Dingles regulars.

I was chatting with Chris Foster about Dingles when he did his gig at Walthamstow last year. The original club at the Rising Sun was started by John Kirkpatrick with my brother Gerry Sheils and Roger Holt (JK mentions it in the booklet to Shirley Collins CD boxset "Within Sound"). I think Chris and I agreed that Gerry had moved away by the time he was involved. I remember good times at the old Rising Sun venue. I think "The North Circular Accidental Band" started there.

I have slight memories of a club at The Starting Gate Wood Green. Is it the same club that was later nearby at Bounds Green, I think the pub was The Railway Tavern. I was regular there for a short time in 1975 when I lived nearby at Ally Pally? After the Folk club we would go to a dodgy private club with a "dining" licence so as long as you paid 25p for a sandwich you could drink after hours on a Sunday!


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Judy Dyble
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 06:29 PM

The Starting Gate in Wood Green was my 'local' club. Ashley Hutchings was a regular visitor, probably where I met up with him and the rest of Fairport I should think.. It was a folk club one night a week in a room above the pub and on other nights it had other music.. I remember seeing Rufus Thomas there once 'just a-walking the dawg'. The Fishmongers Arms in Wood Green was the local Jazz Club.. mostly trad jazz, but later had rock bands as well..

Those were the days eh?


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 03:03 PM

"There was often a sing song in the Three Tuns, Blackheath.....a fine 'alternative' pub in those days."
I know it well being born actually on Blackheath.
I lived right next door to the Three Tuns,my mother had an Antique shop,there in Tranquil Vale,and prior to that one called 52 two steps,just across the road.
Dave Bryant ran a club in Blackheath,but I think it was just beyond the railway station,up the hill in the direction of Lee Green.
The Tower folk club moved to the Three Blackbirds,and became the Blackbirds folk club was run by Rip Rippingale [the singing railwayman]and Ticklers Jam, I was a Resident, it had been started by Dymphna.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 02:50 PM

Dingles was adams arms conway street,the female resident Singer was Ros Shaylor,Nic Dow later became a resident,as did Mike Callow? Bridgit Danby was living in Suffolk about 1978


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 01:36 PM

Bridget Danby moved from London to Suffolk and ran Felixstowe festival. She played flute on Nic Jones' recording of Penguin Eggs, on the album of that name. I think she sang in the South Bank performance of the Transports too.

I went to Dingles once or twice in 1970 when John K was playing with Dingles Chillybom Band, and before the club moved to the Adams Arms, but my recollection is that it was in the Roebuck in Tottenham Court Road.

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 12:35 PM

Oh and BTW, the said Holy Ground was the last place I met up with that fine gentleman Packy Byrne, mentioned by Bonnie. We wandered across Queensway to the pub, for a jar and a chat.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 12:24 PM

The Starting Gate! Thanks John, I have been trying to remember the name of that place for years. I remember seeing The Levee Breakers there. Lineup may have been, Beverly [later Mrs Martyn] on vocals, Mac McGann on the first double necked guitar I ever saw, Henry the Eighth on jug, among others I have forgotten.
BTW, the club in the crypt of that church in Bayswater, was The Holy Ground, Mike Absolom was there a lot.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 12:08 PM

Splotty - I don't think Miss St.John ever came to Dingles. I think that by the early 70s she was only doing concerts. But ask me no questions.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 12:06 PM

Yep, I'm still out here. (I was Out There 9 years ago too...)

I remember a Bridget, and the surname Danby strikes a chord, but I'm not sure if I'm mixing her up with another Bridget. She was a different one from Ms. St John.

Simon & Keith had a duo called Pickled Dill, which I always thought was brilliant. I loved the way they sang Norton New Bell Wake.

Did my first gig with Packie at Dingles in January 1976. YIKES!! 34 years ago!!!


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Splott Man
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 11:15 AM

Ah memories...

Valmai, could it have been husky voiced singer-songwriter Bridget St John?

I sometimes would hitch up from deepest Surrey to the Fighting Cocks, and the Hammersmith Folk Club (2 very tall residents, John Something and A.N.Other), and also the Croydon Folk Song Club (Pete Twitchett). There was also briefly a Folkish club at the Boathouse in Kew, and later on when I lived in the area in the 70s, there was the New Merlin's Cave somewhere near King's X.

Splott Man


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 09:18 AM

Chris Foster was attempting to reminisce with me recently about Dingles. All I could recall were vague spectres of him, John Kirkpatrick and Sue Harris and not even exactly where it was. Chris said that was because it was in two places, the Rising Sun on Tottenham Court Road and the Adams Arms in Conway Street. My suspicion is that memories blur as a result of the haze of dope drifting from Joe Boyd's UFO further down Tottenham Court Road at No 32. Something happened at the Sols Arms too. `I think I remember Wizz Jones was involved. That was close to a Wimpy Bar which was all there was to foregather in on Sunday afternoons before the Three Horseshoes opened its doors opposite at 7 p.m. for the Pentangle's club. Odd that the only venue left in that quarter is Musical Traditions at The King & Queen, far more serious now than it ever was.

There were two other Three Horseshoes of note: one in Heath Street, Hampstead where Bert Jansch was a resident, then The Three City Four took over, and another in Upper Street, Islington (where every bar had some sort of session at one time before they all changed their names and got poncy) where Dominic Behan famously staggered in on Martin Carthy mid-ballad and demanded his turn. He got it, departed to the next bar along and Dr MCMBE resumed at verse 93.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 09:14 AM

Might have been Bridget Danby (as she was after she married Steve). She certainly went there, though I didn't remember her as being a resident.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 02 Jan 10 - 08:35 PM

Jeez!! Have just realised that this thread was started 9 years ago....
And, there are some of us who still remember those far off days..(memo to self, take off those rosie looking spectacles immediately..It wasn't that good!)


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 02 Jan 10 - 08:23 PM

Ah Val.
Dingles....
My other club (after the Rising Sun in Catford!)
Even recorded my first LP on their label...(Sadly now defunct, but..I've got the tapes..nudge nudge!)
Yeah...I remember a Bridget too. Danged if I can remember her surname though?
Bonnie...are you out there? (Shaljean that is!)


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 02 Jan 10 - 08:03 PM

I may have missed a reference, but has anyone mentioned Dingles at the Adams Arms in Fitzrovia? In the mid-1970s the residents were Tim Laycock, Jim McGean, Chris Foster, Simon Rosser, Keith Dignum,and a lady called Bridget whose surname I never knew. In my student days I was a soldier of the line on the door. Sheila Miller was one of the organisers; the main man was Roger Holt, drummer with Dingles Chillibom Band.

The club was unusual in that a bit of dancing was possible and often happened.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,John
Date: 02 Jan 10 - 06:25 PM

Anyone remember the club at the Starting Gate pub...Wood Green...


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,jim
Date: 19 Dec 09 - 03:46 PM

in engaland i can say it was going to a place i didnt know mick softley    mark brialy no one turnd up somewere dont know were got lift back in van today stood in the cold in waterloo market amsterdam no exuses


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,geust jim
Date: 19 Dec 09 - 02:43 PM

im going up and dwn the northern line 14 years old


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 18 Dec 09 - 10:58 AM

The early part of this thread dates from the days before I came to mudcat or I would have chipped in then.

Apart from residencies at the Cellar CSH and The Enterprise in Chalk Farm (although I was regular there in Tery Gould's days the residents during my "official" time were Don Bonito, myself and Marian McKenzie).

Most other North London Clubs I attended regularly at that time but I don't recall anyone mentioning the Hop Poles in Baker Street Enfield, Monday nights IIRC, Did an occasional residency/MC spot there.

The Tower in Walthamstow was mentioned, by Kitty I think, but the area also had late the Navy Boot club at the Lord Brooke and the Three Blackbirds at Leyton.

In between the Fox and the Empress of Russia mentioned by Ralphie was the Florence, which was mentioned, but even earlier that that, but continuing from the Fox, was the King's Head in Upper Street.

The Fox Islington Green carried on as a different club later, run I think by Tina Mullinger.

Someone mentioned running a club at the Greyhound Fulham. I remember going there and I think Dave Calderhead was involved.

And finally, for now anyway, I was regularly at the Wazgoose, in various venues around Stockwell.

Memories!


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Leadfingers
Date: 18 Dec 09 - 09:17 AM

I spent FAR too much of the Sixties out of UK , and when I WAS home , based in High Wycombe , getting into London was not that easy .
Different matter after I got demoobbed and had transport so DID manage a bit more in London . Even managed a few Gigs !


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Dec 09 - 08:01 AM

around 64 65 the cousins all nighter then down to ken colliers for the last bit janch renbourn ect and a club called le duce    or something like that of greek street where all stewert had it all top himself jackson c frank sometimes    the cousins roy harper more often than not   three horshoes sunday paul simon in the middle with one or to new songs black bull barnet alex cambell ect


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,eric the viking
Date: 04 Dec 09 - 06:39 PM

Sometimes the Thurlow arms in West Norwood would have a folk/blues night. I did a night there once. There was a guy called "Raggy Farmer" on as well. I left London in 1971..all those years ago....where has time gone? Anyone remember "Time out"? Me and my mate Pat were often listed (as Pat and Eric) in there in the late sixties. Wasn't it a great time to be young?(Rose coloured glasses?) So much good music going on. Very little violence, no-one had heard of "mugging". Then there was "The Cherry tre" in East Dulwich as well.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Strider
Date: 04 Dec 09 - 05:26 PM

I was deeply involved in the folk scene from 64 - until the mid 70s when I left for Belgium, mainly around Wimbledon, Kingston, New Malden.
Started with the New Malden Folk Club in the Railway Tavern in 64 I think, which moved to the Royal Oak a year later. I met Sandy Denny in there a couple of times doing floor spots, I can remmember thinking what a great voice, and wishing she could tune her guitar. The Holy Ground (aka the Fighting Cocks) openened in Kington, and it was a great place over the years, decent acoustics, and a great singing tradition. In 1969 Dunedain was formed with Nigel Hall, Mike Huxley, John Rodd and myself and we opened another club in Kinston at the Castle, Fairfield. The pub was isolated with no buildings or houses around, and we used to frequently have a lock-in on the Saturday evening when we ran it. It was a fairly small upstairs room, and felt well populated with 25 people in there, often we had 40-50. At the same time the new malden crowd had migrated to the Albert on Kingston Hill. We had to move as the area was being redeveloped, and contined residency at the Fighting Cocks until we opened the Upstairs Coal Hole at the Prince of Wales in Wimbledon, in 71. A big and quite successful club, we could afford to have a regular diet of high profile guests but it never had an intimate atmosphere.
I remember doing gigs or floorspots at many of the clubs mentioned in this thread.
Another favourite club slightly beyond London was the Windsor Club at the Swan in Clewer Village. Another small attic type club over the garage or barn. The name Alan springs to mind, and quite possibly one of the best collections of attractive females in the regular audience that I can remember.
Great days


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Leadfingers
Date: 01 Nov 09 - 02:32 PM

The Load of Hay in Uxbridge , through the later sixties and the seventies !
And The White Lion in Egham , which became Staines Folk Club at The Bridge , then The Pheonix !


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Rick Rutkowski
Date: 01 Nov 09 - 01:53 PM

Hi, i am not in touch with Peter Davis but I did go to the Cauldron regularly in 64/65 time and in particular used to go to see Mox and John Lamont. It started me out on a journey of playing harmonica and singing the blues which i do to this day.

Nice memories!


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Oldguit
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 04:54 AM

I remember The Nags Head Battersea in the early-mid sixties but spent much more time at:
The Nags Head, Clapham Common Old Town and

The Nags Head, Wandsworth Rd, near the top end of Queenstown Road. Anyone remember them?

They were both run by a big bubbly lady named Sue, I can't remember her surname, I think her father was a folkie too. I remember Peggy Seeger coming to Clapham and being introduced as "Peggy" she did a fantastic rendition of Scarborough Fair, others I remember, Jugular Vein, Mike Deacon, George Greenaway, Mick & Mac, Gerry Lockran (Half Moon Putney)Fred Kettle, Dave Evans,and many others already mentioned.

The Nags Head, a Popular name for pubs in Sarf London.I emigrated across the river in 1967.

Howard


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 08:11 AM

In the early sixties my elder Brother used to go to a folk club on Catford bridge....anyone remember it. I later went to the |phoebus awakes, run by Dave Cooper, then later by Nick Dow. The YCL used to run a club at Forest Hill, then there was thr crypt, and The Bull (coach house) at Farningham. There was often a sing song in the Three Tuns, Blackheath.....a fine 'alternative' pub in those days.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,John from Elsie`s Band
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 02:05 PM

Don (WYSIWYG),
             You undoubtedly came across Tony Deane and Ted Smith who ran the "Nags Head" for some time during those years.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Clive Pownceby
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 02:02 PM

To Don T. Yes, I went to the Nags Head in Battersea. Was it on York Road? If so it's now demolished (1980)as the previous posting notes. I saw Johnny Silvo, who is all over this thread, there in Autumn 1966. Sunday night I think.
On other nights, the same upstairs room hosted Kilroys Blues Club and I also caught Savoy Brown with the great Kim Simmonds on guitar there, a few nights later. Somewhere I've got a flyer which is probably worthy of framing.
On the same week's holiday from up here in the north-west, I went to CS House and paid 12/6d to see a bill that featured Carthy & Swarbrick, Shirley Collins, Anne Briggs and Bob Davenport. Blimey!!!! I thought it a fortune to shell out at the time, when I could go and see Zoot Money at Klooks Kleek for 7/6d! Had eclectic tastes then - still have 'em now.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 10:06 AM

Price's Candles were also just next door to Garton's. The conflicting smells were, "interesting"
Yes I remember the club, but both it and the pub, are no more.

JM


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: ejerome
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 09:40 AM

i hope this is in keeping with the spirit of your site - I wondered if anyone was in touch with Peter Davis, who used to work at the Witches Cauldron 1965-66. Cheers, Erica


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 07 Sep 09 - 07:43 PM

Anyone remember the "Nags Head Folk Club" in Battersea, opposite Garton's Glucose factory?

The first folk club I ever regularly attended, in 1965, after ten years of playing in a skiffle band.

I can't even remember the names of the organisers, but they started me on a forty four year odyssey of performing in, and organising folk clubs, sessions, and singarounds, and thanks to them I'm still doing it.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Fidjit
Date: 06 Sep 09 - 11:27 PM

Mike Absolom ran a club in the crypt of a church in Bayswater

Yes John Your right. Now why would I go the other side of the river.?

Crypt was dry. So in the break we'd go to the pub across the road.
Did my floor spot just before Alex and left a bottle of orange juice on the stage.

Alex, " What the F*** this?" To embarrassed to collect it.

Chas


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 06 Sep 09 - 06:14 PM

I started going to Herga, my local club, in 1967. I also remember visiting Islington at the King's Head, Upper Street when the Stradlings were running it (I went to see the Songwainers there in 1969), Dingles, in 1970, when it was still at the Roebuck, and the Tower in Walthamstow.

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Santa
Date: 06 Sep 09 - 06:08 PM

I used to go to two clubs in the early 70s: I saw Therapy at Surbiton but was more regularly at one in Kingston, where I remember seeing Martin Wyndham-Read, then freshly back from Australia. I don't recall the name of the club but the residents were Dunedain.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: vectis
Date: 06 Sep 09 - 05:51 PM

I vaguely remember tottering up to The Crypt under St Martin in the Fields after the Troub ( via a pub in a market somewhere) for a lunchtime club. I think it began at 12. Anyone else used to go?


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 06 Sep 09 - 05:43 PM

I was around the London clubs from the end of 69. As well as those mentioned above, there was also The Florence in Islington (Tues; before the Empress?) and The Fighting Cocks at Kingston (Friday). Several of the universities also had regular clubs. The Troubador I went to a lot (in 60/70, I lived really close by; usually went on there after the Cellar at C# House).

I ran into Dom Bonito some years ago when a group from Herga went up to try and support the poorly attended the Saffron Waldon FC! It didn't work.


Mick


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 06 Sep 09 - 04:30 PM

Hampstead could have been the Three Horseshoes, or possibly the Enterprise at Chalk Farm, run by Terry Gould.
Mike Absolom ran a club in the crypt of a church in Bayswater
Hammersmith... was that The Prince of Wales in Dalling Road, run by Rod Hamilton?
Folk on Two, or Country Meets [Swamps] Folk, was in the playhouse theatre at Charing Cross, resident Wally Whyton [Ollie Beak] and base player Brian Brocklehurst, producer was Ian Grant. Different guests each week.
We're all getting on a bit.
JM


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Fidjit
Date: 06 Sep 09 - 04:10 PM

'66 - '68. '69 - 72 ish
Club at Hampstead where I asked Shirley Collins to sing a cheerful song.

The Troub of course. Johnny Silvo borrowed my guitar and broke a string.

Mike Absolem had a club in the cellar of a church in Battersea.
Heard Alex Campbell there.
Islington, Dave and Tony Arthur
HammersmithBroadway where I heard Ralph McTell, but that was later.

Clapton Uni. Tim Hart and Maddy Prior.

Fulham where I showed slides of Vigeland Park in Oslo, whilst I sang Sidney Carter's Country girl. He was there and said I'd sung the Ralph Harris version. And so I had. Jeremy Tailor was the guest.
Was asked, "But is it Folk?"
Noel Murphy was everywhere. and with Shaggis.

Radio two. Folk on Two live at some theater by Charring cross with Wally Wyton, Jim Lloyd etc.

The memories are fading. I'm getting on a bit better book me before it's too late.

Chas


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Chris Evans
Date: 06 Sep 09 - 01:22 PM

In 1967 and 1968 I ran a folk club at the Greyhound on Fulham Pallace Road. I worked mainly with a guy called Pete Darling. Guests at the club included, Alex Campbell, The Young Tradition, Dave and Toni Arthur, Johnny Silvo, Shirley Collins, Stefan Grossman. The Strawbs, Noel Murphy. Finbar and Eddie Furrey. Does anyone remember?


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Greycap
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 12:46 PM

Burl, You got a great memory - yep, Eileen and I are still together, 36 years,we are still singing & playing. Come and see us if you are near Ripon.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Skiffle fan
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 05:02 PM

If I remember rightly the Witches Cauldron was in Hamstead. And Phoebus Awakes in Catford was I think originally founded by Eddie Dunmore, Martin Hazel, Dave and Toni Arthur and The Coven Band (John Bush -Kate's brother- on concertina). Later Dave Cooper took over. Re. the Two Daves - Dave Trenow is up around Chelmsford and is a fine painter, a few years ago he had a Green Man exhibition. Re. the Crypt at St Martin's, wasn't the guy with the lava lamps Ron Geesin? Re Don Partridge, usually seen at the Seaford, East Sussex, Friday folk club., still busking after all these years. Re Ray Sharpe, mandolin. Is he the Ray from the Hickory Nuts? If so he's alive and well and living around Caterham area. Dennis O'Brian, ah yes, I remember him well. Also Sean McCarthy from the Crubeen Club, at Wandsworth, who wrote Red Haired Mary, and went back to Ireland and became a successful ~Club or Studio owner. He was one of the first club organisers to 'spot' and book Bob and Carol Pegg, and Dave and Toni Arthur back in the early 60s. Re Al Stewart, first London peformance as floor spot in the folk club held under a Wimpy Bar in Tooting. He'd just arrived in London from Southampton, or somewhere down that way, mid-sixties.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 11:32 AM

Yes it could well have been. They had folk sessions on Sundays but the cellar got used as a function room, could've had blues in there. I still can't recall the locality. Heard the likes of Redd Sullivan, Marion Gray, and a very young Martin Carthy there. they were good sessions.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: pavane
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 11:11 AM

I remember a blues club in a cellar called the Witches Cauldron, somewhere in North London - would that be likely to be the one?


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 10:53 AM

Ah London......the clubs I used to visit, and floor sing, in the early 60's when I lodged in Hither Green and worked at the Glennifer Laundry on Bromley Road. Ballads & Blues, (or had it become the Singers Club by then?)The Unity Theatre, The Witches Cauldron...that was held on a Sunday afternoon, but I can't remember where, and the Troub of course. Bungies. Later years I sang at The Rose, Islington, Marquis of Clanricarde (The BBC Club), The Enterprise, Chalk Farm Road, in the days of Don Bonito & company, always a favourite club, Croydon folk club,Dingles, another favourite, The Rising Sun, Catford, Swan & Sugarloaf, Croydon, The Goat, St Albans, etc.etc. Memories. Speaking of memories.....Hello Roger Knowles, I remember sharing the bill with you at the MSG donkey's years ago. I remember your wife,Eileen?, being a good ballad singer. Great days, and the music still rolls on!


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Jingle
Date: 01 Aug 01 - 04:07 PM

I remember the Barge at Kingston, also the Cellar Club behind the cinema. Whatever happened to the Barge, I suppose it fell to pieces years ago? Went once to the Singers Club in Holborn where Ewan McColl was in charge and keeping a very tight grip on the proceedings. Peggy Seeger was wonderful, and he sang to her "The first time ever I saw your face". I have never forgotten it.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Greycap
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 12:41 PM

Fionn, Hey, I didn't know you were so close - re: the 2 Daves, sorry, no idea. However, Addingham does have a first( I think )Tuesday night singaround in the pub just up from the Fleece. Can't recall the name off-hand, but it's easy to find. There's also the Lock,Stock & Barrel, by the canal, Tuesday nights, in Skipton. Saturdays, I run a small singaround at the Bay Horse Inn, Burnt Yates. Seeya,


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Kernow John
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 03:05 AM

Does anyone remember Chapter 3? They were around the clubs at the same time as most of the above.
KJ


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 10:01 PM

Roger, I took my daughter to one of my childhood playgrounds, Brimham Rocks, just this last weekend. If I'm that close to Ripon again on a Sunday, I'll certainly look in. And just extend this northern drift a bit further, have you any idea what became of the two Daves who once had regular Sunday night sessions at the Fleece at Addingham?


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: pavane
Date: 30 Jul 01 - 03:30 AM

I just turned up an old tape which includes a song from one Jim Garrett, who used to run Loughton folk club. He wrote songs (mostly humorous, I believe)and apparently published a book of them. The title of one was 'Don't lie down on the sawbench Daddy, you'll get a pain in your head head neck neck body body'. Anyone remember him? Was he the one with the arrow-shaped electric guitar? (Sorry if I show my ignorance of electric guitars here). If we find him, maybe he will let us post a song or two.


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