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Lyr Add: Alice White (Alan Bell)

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ALICE WHITE
BREAD AND FISHES
FAIR STOOD THE WIND
WHEN FIRST WE MET
WINDMILL


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Subject: Lyr Add: ALICE WHITE (Alan Bell)
From: JudeL
Date: 18 Jul 01 - 11:01 AM

Last year at Towersey Susan asked for the lyrics of Alice White. I was not connected to the net at the time and all but forgot about it, but I just checked the DT and it's still not there so here goes:

ALICE WHITE
(Alan Bell)

My name is Alice White,
I'd have you all to know
I left my father's farm,
A long long time ago
My mother called me a silly lass
She said I'd rue the day
That I followed on the heels
Of the navvies

My first man Dandy Jack
Was handsome young and fine
And we travelled throughout England
As we trudged from line to line
We lived in shanty houses
Had lodgers and children three
As I worked to fill the needs
Of the navvies

When Dandy Jack was killed
Beneath a fall of stone
I wept and cursed the day
That ever I was born
But the children needed feeding
And many men looked at me
so I took another man
from the navvies

Time came I was deserted
When my children numbered five
And I had to take another man
Just to keep us all alive
And now I've had so many men
They call me Alice Free
As I've lived my life away
With the navvies

And now I'm getting old
And grey before my time
With the work and the childbearing
As we trudged from line to line
I often think of poor Dandy Jack
Lying so cold in his grave
He's the only one I loved
Of the navvies



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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Alice White
From: MMario
Date: 18 Jul 01 - 11:05 AM

tune?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Alice White
From: JudeL
Date: 18 Jul 01 - 11:24 AM

If I can work out how to use paltalk I can sing it to you


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Subject: Lyr Add: Alice White
From: Snuffy
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 11:15 AM

Surprised this hasn't been harvested.

According to Folk North West the author is Alan Bell, who also wrote WINDMILL, WHEN FIRST WE MET, FAIR STOOD THE WIND and BREAD AND FISHES, all of which ARE in the DT.

He has this to say of Alice White:

   Well the Taverners evolved in the early 60's - Big Pete Rodger, Stu Robinson, Brian and myself. We were touring throughout the UK making records and numerous radio and TV appearances, constantly asked to do songs from the North West and finding very little traditional material. I began with songs such as 'The Packman' and 'Windmills'. I also put together a radio ballad of the Settle and Carlisle railway for the BBC. It took about a year and then I was told the whole programme concept had gone away. The only remaining song today is 'Alice White'.

All of these (except When First We Met) are on THE ALAN BELL BAND "With Bread and Fishes" Dragon Records DRGNCD942


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Alice White
From: Ian Hendrie
Date: 19 Dec 07 - 09:40 AM

Does anyone have the chords or tune for this?


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Subject: Lyr Add: ALICE WHITE (Alan Bell)
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 28 Jul 08 - 08:10 AM

A few corrections to the words below. This was written for a play called "The Last Road North" by Alan and this song was to be sung by Marie Little. Alice White was a real person and she was 38 when she died.

Although this song was written about the building of the railway, it has been taken up by the canal song fraternity for obvious reasons.

ALICE WHITE

My name is Alice White, I'd have you all to know.
I left my father's farm a long time ago.
My mother called me a silly lass and said I'd rue the day
That I followed on the heels of the navvies.

My first man, Dandy Jack, was handsome, young and fine,
And I loved him right through England as we tramped from line to line.
We lived in shanty houses with lodgers and children three
As I worked to fill the needs of the navvies.

When Dandy Jack was killed beneath a fall of stone,
I wept and cursed the day that ever I was born;
But the children needed feeding and many men looked at me,
So I jumped the brush to stay with the navvies.

Time came I was deserted when my children numbered five,
So I got me yet another man for to keep us all alive;
And so I've known so many men they call me Alice Free,
As I've lived my life away with the navvies

And now I'm getting old and grey before my time,;
With the work and the childbearing as we tramped from line to line
But I'll never forget poor Dandy Jack lying so cold in his grave.
He's the only one I loved of the navvies.


From Joe Offer: I've listened to the recording by a female singer on the CD Alan Bell: The Definitive Collection, and I hear a few things differently:

ALICE WHITE
(Alan Bell)

My name is Alice White, I'd have you all to know.
I left my father's farm a long time ago.
My mother called me a silly lass and said I'd rue the day
That I followed on the heels of the navvies.

My first man, Dandy Jack, he was handsome, young and fine,
And I loved him right through England as we tramped from line to line.
We lived in shanty houses with lodgers and children three
As I worked to fill the needs of the navvies.

When Dandy Jack was killed beneath a fall of stone,
Well, I wept and cursed the day that ever I was born;
But the children needed feeding and many men looked at me,
So I jumped the brush to stay with the navvies.

Time came I was deserted when my children numbered five,
So I took me yet another man for to keep us all alive;
And now I've known so many men they called me Alice Free,
As I've lived my life away with the navvies

And now I'm getting old and grey before my time,;
With the work and the childbearing as we tramped from line to line
But I'll ne'er forget poor Dandy Jack lying so cold in his grave.
He's the only one I loved of the navvies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhM4j6yavPA


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Alice White (Alan Bell)
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Mar 13 - 11:15 PM

Chords to this?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Alice White (Alan Bell)
From: Semofolkie
Date: 06 Mar 13 - 11:18 PM

oops. What are the chords to this?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Alice White (Alan Bell)
From: Sailor Ron
Date: 07 Mar 13 - 05:13 AM

Semofolkie,you could contact Alan Bell direct on the Fylde Folk Festival web site or E Mail him, I'm sure he couls answeer your question


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Alice White (Alan Bell)
From: GUEST,Swaleman
Date: 07 Mar 13 - 05:27 AM

Chords as in 'The Alan Bell Song Book' published by Tamlyn Music Ltd, 55 The Strand, Fleetwood Lancashire.


    Dm          F          C                Dm      
My name is Alice White, I'd have you all to know.
                   F       C       Dm
I left my father's farm a long time ago.
                      C             Dm                A7
My mother called me a silly lass and said I'd rue the day
       Dm             C          Dm
That I followed on the heels of the navvies.

Hope that helps.
Swaleman.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Alice White (Alan Bell)
From: GUEST,Swaleman
Date: 07 Mar 13 - 05:35 AM

The chords have moved from the positions when I submitted them and should read as follows:
chords
Line 1 Dm above name F above White C above have Dm above know
line 2 F above farm   C above long   Dm above go
line 3 C above silly Dm above said A7 above day
Line 4 Dm above followed C above heels Dm above Navvies

Hope that's clear.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Alice White (Alan Bell)
From: GUEST,Ken of Sussex
Date: 29 Jul 17 - 05:53 AM

What does "jumped the brush" in the line "So I jumped the brush to stay with the navvies" mean? Is it like jumping the broom(-stick) in some ethnic marriage ceremonies?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Alice White (Alan Bell)
From: Snuffy
Date: 29 Jul 17 - 06:31 AM

That's exactly what it means. One woman's broom is another woman's brush


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