BS: Elasticity of Space

Subject: Elasticity of Space
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 01:27 PM

This theory is a corillary of the fact that no matter where you go there you are.

As far as I can tell I occupy the same space all the time, the space that is "Me" if I bring my finger up to my nose it is alway in the same spot. No doubt you have noticed this with your nose.

Given this, it is obvious that people do not move, the space around us moves, and space is infinitley elastic.

If I get in my car and drive to Albany Ny from Danbury Ct, and some one from Troy NY drives to Norwalk CT, when each of us arives, we have not moved at all. Space has stretched and warped around us, but put my finger on the tip of my nose and it is right where it was in Danbury.

How else can you explain the fact you are always right where you are? The infinate elasticity of space is the only rational explination.

Nick

Subject: RE: BS: Elasticity of Space
From: MMario
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 01:35 PM

Lucky you! I have found that frequently I am not where I think I am - and there are often gaps where I don't remember progressing from one point to another. (People listening to me talk often have the same problem in determining how I got where I am)

Likewise I suspect strongly that sometimes I think I am somewhere but I am not actually there, becauae if I were people would interact with me, but they don't. Happens a lot at parties.

Subject: RE: BS: Elasticity of Space
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 01:41 PM

The thing that has always puzzled me is that matter is supposed to be composed mostly of empty space, sub-atomic particles orbiting round each other.

Does that mean that when I move, there are lots of other particles moving through my empty space, uninvited, and unbeknownst to me ?

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Elasticity of Space
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 01:45 PM

Sounds reasonable to me. There goes string theory. The cosmos is made of latex!

No, wait a minute! Maybe string theory still holds -- only instead of strings, they are rubber bands!

(Maybe that's stretching it a bit)

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Elasticity of Space
From: gnu
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 01:58 PM

Well, I've been spaced out, but I always found my way back to where I was... so far. Minds me of the time one of my crew called me first thing in the morning. Upon answering the phone, he said that he had no idea where he was but, since it wasn't a long distance call, he should be able to make it into work within the hour. That called for infinte patience.

Subject: RE: BS: Elasticity of Space
From: GUEST,Russ
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:58 AM

Not bad if you insist on claiming that motion is "real" in some sense.

There's no motion because there's no space.

There is no "there" as opposed to "here."

Subject: RE: BS: Elasticity of Space
From: Bagpuss
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:57 AM

Bending the point a bit. Heres one I never understood. Physicists say that time was created at the big bang. If there was no time, how could the big bang happen. Surely time needs already to exist for something to happen (ie change in time)....

Nobody has ever answered this question in a way I can understand. Any physicists about want to give it a go?

Bagpuss

Subject: RE: BS: Elasticity of Space
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 07:00 PM

The alternate theory is that there was no 'big bang', but that atoms just keep appearing out of nothing and heading off to do their thing....just as much fun to explain..

I don't always NEED an explanation of everything....I certainly do not feel obliged to subscribe to any of the current one yet.....whether based on physics, religion or random guesses

Subject: RE: BS: Elasticity of Space
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 08:08 PM

I can't go near any theory of the beginning of the universe. I can neither conceive of it having always existed nor as it NOT having always been there. I think the problem is that I actually do see that time is a physical dimension orthogonal to space according to our perceptual system, so I can't conceive of a time before there was time and space, if that makes sense at all, so I just Don't Go There.

Which doesn't answer whether I'm always where I am, just that wherever I am, it isn't There.