Anti-semitic and inflammatory editorial

Subject: RE: Anti-semitic and inflammatory editorial
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Sep 01 - 11:08 AM

Once again: the important things isn't what to call this kind of hate, but to work to eliminate it, and that is something we all are surely agreed needs to be done.

That's the commonality that matters.

Subject: RE: Anti-semitic and inflammatory editorial
From: Deda
Date: 21 Sep 01 - 11:34 AM

First, I just want to say that when I don't respond quickly it's not from lack of interest, and I hope it is not from lack of anything to say; it is because I have a day job, and I feel guilty enough about the amount of time I spend reading all these posts.

It seems clear to me that Anti-semitism has always meant the particular animus against Jews -- although when Anwar Sadat was asked whether he was anti-Semitic he said "No -- how could I be anti-Semitic? I am a Semite!" That moment notwithstanding, we need and therefore have coined (Thanks to Wolfgang for the erudite history!) a term for hatred of Jews, because it keeps recurring, historically, again and again. In the mentions on this thread of Tsarist Russia, no one has pointed out the history of pogroms, sometime carried out by Tsarist soldiers who galloped through the shtetls slaughtering families.

Lepus -- Do the Sikhs or the Romas have an original homeland to which they have always aspired to return? Do they have a long, deep, rich and enriching cultural, literary, musical and religious tradition which is locked to that land? I confess to being ignorant of their histories.

I can't help being pro-Israeli. My 25-year-old daughter, a convert to orthodox Judaism, is Israeli, and she is there even now, with my 3-year-old grandson. I am not as virulently zionist as many, and I want constantly to remind her and all of the lyrics, "There, but for fortune, go you, go I, your or I." Surely that corner of the earth cries out for mutual forgiveness, tolerance, amity -- qualities as scarce there as floods in desert.

Subject: RE: Anti-semitic and inflammatory editorial
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 21 Sep 01 - 04:57 PM

JH, OK, I won't discuss it with you, then. Since you're not going to reply, I'll say this: I'm right. You aren't. :)

Tedham, if you're going to call me an anti-Semite, come out and say it. Or at least drag out your man-bitch alter-ego Irwin to do it for you. Your little witch-hunts are always amusing.

OK, now for the nice people... :)

. Troll, I don't think we disagree one bit on the FACTS. As I said in my clarification last night, when I used the word "illegal," I wasn't refering to Israel itself, but rather to its occupation and colonisation of non-Israeli land. So... :)

Deda: Well, the Sikhs are the only group on my list who desire a homeland (Well, some Sikhs do, at least), as far as I know. They would like an independent Sikh nation, Khalistan, in Punjab, between India and Pakistan.

My question SHOULD have been: If these ethnic/religious groups DESIRED a homeland (which like I said, none but the Sikhs seem to), would you support it? Say, a Zoroastrian State in Iran, a Roma State in India, etc?

---Lepus Rex

Subject: RE: Anti-semitic and inflammatory editorial
From: Tedham Porterhouse
Date: 21 Sep 01 - 05:09 PM

What the hell are you talking about?

Subject: RE: Anti-semitic and inflammatory editorial
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 21 Sep 01 - 05:36 PM

Oh, nothing.

---Lepus Rex