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Subject: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 12:44 PM

It was 25 years ago today that Janis was found dead. I wasn't her biggest fan, but I know that there are many here who loved her. She certainly did contribute to the music of the era.


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 12:47 PM

My Mistake, it was October 4th, but it was 1970, not 1976.

Sorry.


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 12:49 PM

I always liked her Steve and I really think she was just coming into her own with "Pearl." Interesting that every teenage girl we had in foster care managed to find that CD and play it to death. She could deliver the song somehow in a way that spoke to them.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 01:01 PM

'Spaw, I used to listen to her a lot, and I still like her, but I was never a fanatic. Funny though, I was just singing "Mercedes Benz" this morning before reading it was the anniversary of her death.


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: iamjohnne
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 01:04 PM

I wasn't much of a fan back in the day, but I love to hear her music now.

Johnne


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 01:14 PM

I'm sorry she died, but she was pretty over-rated in my book. Maybe now that 31 years have passed I can say that without people throwing things at me.


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 02:46 PM

Overrated maybe. But she did have a style! I didn't think much of her voice but here delivery is unmatched even to this day.


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: mike putt
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 03:57 PM

I loved her not for the quality of her voice but for her raw energy, and I agree with you Jack she has never been matched


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: GUEST,Celtic Soul
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 04:02 PM

I wasso-so on her stuff. I liked the slower stuff more than the more harsh style she used on the faster paced pieces. She did have a style though, and I can appreciate the technique even if I do not aesthetically connect with the results.

Is it just me though? Does anyone else *not* feel sorry for her, Hendrix, or any number of other celebrities that basically binge themselves to death?

I have a hard time feeling much more than pity when it is something brought on by their own actions, and could have been avoided.


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 04:14 PM

Celtic Soul,

Ultimately she was to blame, but the times were different. I don't think society in general knew just how lethal drugs, especially Heroin was.

What gets me is there seems ot be a resurgence of Heroin abuse among younger people now. I would have thought they would have learned from the many deaths of very young, talented people in the sixties and seventies.


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 04:59 PM

I miss her. She spoke to us woman to woman. And she was tough and soft at the same time. Take Another Little bit of My Heart - - everyone who has ever heard that phrase knows EXACTLY where that vunerable spot is!

I'm with you, Spaw.


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: Bob P
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 05:18 PM

"Take another li'l piece of my heart . . . "

I frequently transfer that tune to, I suppose you'd call 'em "best of the best", tapes for the car and commuting to the loop from the burbs of Chicago.

I have listened to it perhaps a thousand times and each time I hear something in her voice that makes the other tunes on the tape seem inconsequential.

Sometimes I doze on the train, but never thru that one.

For her non-fans, take heart, we're unlikely to hear her likes again soon.

You know? If you put that much of yourself into the relatively simple act of singing a song, the effect on longevity shouldn't surprise.

I've often wondered . . .

Maybe it wasn't the drugs; maybe she was just all used up.


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: GUEST,God is not a Joplin fan
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 05:27 PM

Why are you folks discussing Joplin, this is supposed to be a music board. She was much more of a talented druggie, drunk, and slut than musician. Overrated to the point of irrationality because of her conspicious self-destruction. You can bet your ass that she is not up here with me. The last I heard, she is roasting in hell and keeping company with that fat untalented bastard Burl Ives.


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: 53
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 08:21 PM

what a waste, just an example of what abuse can do, you think you cool but you're not, you're dead. bob


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: ddw
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 09:04 PM

Walking Eagle, why do you think today's kids would have learned anything from the Jimis and Janises? They hadn't learned anything from the Billy Holidays and others who went down that road. Truth is, most of the kids getting into it now probably have no idea who Hendrix and Joplin were — they think of the time before they were born as being too far in the past to be relevant....

All that said, I'll have to weigh in with among Janis's (and Jimi's) non-fans. I always thought you could get about the same degree of musicality by poking a pig in the ass with a hatpin. I love blues, but primal scream doesn't say much to me at all.

david


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 04 Oct 01 - 10:30 PM

Janis was the classic "Carrie", the homely girl who had a really rough time of it through school and relished being able to sock it to' em at last Such a pity she couldn't handle being in control.

I have nothing against Janis Joplin, and I think the post from our Guest above is despicable, but I do wish that she had never covered "Me and Bobbie McGee".

Every wannabee at every open mike attempts to imitate her version, and I just wish they would sing it straight, like KK did.

Murray


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 05 Oct 01 - 09:30 AM

Murray, Maybe that's why I'm not as big a fan as I was. The number of times that I've heard people try to do her at open mikes may have wrecked the original for me.

I was surprised to recently learn that one of her bands, I think Big Brother, were pretty much all Canadian.


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 05 Oct 01 - 09:55 AM

I'm not talking about the drugs, I'm talking about the FEELINGS and the HEART! If you think todays' kids don't have that, think again. They do, sometimes they are just not as capable of expressing it in the same way that we deem 'acceptable'. Sometimes their parents were incapable ( for whatever reasons ) of teaching them. Ever really talked to the kid with piercings and tatoos everywhere except their eyeballs? Try it, you may learn they have feelings and heart and valuable opinions. Hey folks, don't be so judgemental of people who used drugs, 'Trane did as well, along with many classical composers. Does that make it anymore acdeptable? NO, but they left us thinking and wondering what they would have been like had drugs not been involved. I think the world would have been way too small for their talents. We would have been too small.

Janis once said she would have liked to have a home and three kids, but she decided on a different path. I, for one, am glad she choose music as her taskmaster, I grieve that she choose drugs as her demon. It IS possible to seperate the two.


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Subject: RE: Janis Joplin, Gone 25 years.
From: Clifton53
Date: 05 Oct 01 - 10:04 AM

I saw her twice in concert and was impressed with her energy and passion, but I prefered the quieter numbers also.

At Shea Stadium in New York City, it was a day-long festival and she was one of the last acts if I remember it right. Nightfall had come and the stadium lights were on full beam, and after her first song, she insisted that they be turned off and had a slight hissy and wouldn't continue until they were. Well, they didn't go off for about five minutes, then Peter Yarrow, or was it Noel Stookey?, jeez, so long ago I can't recall, who was the emcee came out and got on the mike imploring the staff to cut the lights, which they did and the show continued.

Seeing Janis and a member of Peter Paul and Mary on stage at the same time was pretty humorous I thought.

Clifton


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Subject: 40 yrs ago, I was 18 & Janis Joplin died
From: Johnny J
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 01:25 PM

"Take another little piece of my heart now, baby..."

http://www.janisjoplin.net/


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