BS: ' The Proms' ?

Subject: ' The Proms' ?
From: tremodt
Date: 20 Oct 01 - 06:59 PM

recently I watched a program from Prince Albert Hall in London and it was the final nite of the " Proms " the ochorestra leader was Andrew Davis, they song some nice songs that I would like to know the name of and the words such as " Oh Britania" some thing to the tune of "Pomp and Circumstance"

thank you all againm

Ron

Subject: RE: BS: ' The Proms' ?
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 20 Oct 01 - 07:33 PM

do a search somewhere on 'Rule Britannia', I think they changed the words in the light of recent events?

Subject: RE: BS: ' The Proms' ?
From: tremodt
Date: 20 Oct 01 - 09:10 PM

what are the words to Pomp and Circumstance

Subject: RE: BS: ' The Proms' ?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 20 Oct 01 - 09:24 PM

I dont think there are words to Pmp and Circumstance, it is a tune written by Elgar. There are words to Land of Hope & Glory, wich is traditionally sung at the last night of The Proms.

Subject: RE: BS: ' The Proms' ?
From: tremodt
Date: 20 Oct 01 - 09:57 PM

thank you john in hull thats the song land of hope and glory what about words to Oh Britania thanks again

ron in Long Island NY

Subject: RE: BS: ' The Proms' ?
From: masato sakurai
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 02:29 AM

There're too many sites. Some of them are:

(1) CLICK HERE
J. Thomson's poem

(2) CLICK HERE
With Jacobite version

(3) CLICK HERE
Song and poem

(4) CLICK HERE
With "Land of Hope and Glory" and others

(5) CLICK HERE
With orch. playing

(6) CLICK HERE
J. Thomson's poem

(7) CLICK HERE
With orch. playing

~Masato

Subject: RE: BS: ' The Proms' ?
From: masato sakurai
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 02:33 AM

I've skipped over this.

(4) CLICK HERE
With "Land of Hope and Glory" and others

Subject: RE: BS: ' The Proms' ?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 03:58 AM

If you don't know, the concert you saw is only one of a whole programme lasting several weeks from July to Sept. They are called the Promenade concerts, and will span several centuries worth of orchestral and choral music over the weeks. If you attend at least 5 other Promenade concerts, you get to attend the last night. This is the one that usually gets broadcast on a mainline channel, the others are lost in the depths of BBC2 and Radio 3, none of which are available in Long Island I suspect.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: ' The Proms' ?
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 08:13 AM

Thanks LtS -I've only ever managed 2 myself and since I find the whole last night thing a little too jingoistic - I do not think I'll be going for the record. I always thought that the acoustics in the RAH were very suspect- but them I'm a cheap seats in the gods kinda girl-so that probably explains it!

Subject: RE: BS: ' The Proms' ?
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 09:10 AM

Ron, you must have watched an older 'Last Night'. This year the conductor was American Leonard Slatkin, and they changed the programme and left out all the more 'patriotic' numbers which usually produce the kind of mirth that seemed inappropriate so soon after 11 September. Slatkin left 'Jerusalem' in, chose the final movement from Beethoven's Ninth and, incidentally, made a very dignified speech.

Subject: RE: BS: ' The Proms' ?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 10:33 AM

Also worth mentioning, Susanne, that this year's programme included Barber's Adagio for Strings. Slatkin had the stick at this year's last night because he has been appointed as chief conductor of the BBC Symphony Orchestra, which carries the main burden of the proms season (though some of the world's other leading orchestras also take part).

There had been much curiosity about how a "foreigner" would cope with the flag-waving patpriotism of the last night. (I think the mood has got a lot sillier since a French citizen, Pierre Boulez, had the job.) Because of September 11, the old mood was ditched, I hope never to return.

Much has been invested in the acoustics of the Royal Albert Hall, but the building can still swallow decibels on a phenomenal scale. It must te only place on earth, apart from open arenas like Santa Fe and Verona, where the Belioz Requiem or Schoenberg's Gurrelieder don't sound over loud.

For more about the Proms, which must be the biggest festival of serious music in the world, try the BBC's vast site - specifically this bit.

Subject: RE: BS: ' The Proms' ?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 10:58 AM

Fionn writes:

There had been much curiosity about how a "foreigner" would cope with the flag-waving patpriotism of the last night.

Well, considering the "foreigner" was an American, and that the two most nationalistic/jingoistic patriotism countries in the world are the US and Britain, I'm sure he would feel right at home.

Kissing cousins, and all that.

Subject: RE: BS: ' The Proms' ?
From: tremodt
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 05:05 PM

I as an american was overwhelmed when the Star Bangled Banner was played at Buckingham Palace after the plane hit the WTC by the coldstream gusrds

Subject: RE: BS: ' The Proms' ?
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 05:53 PM

Personally I think they were wrong to change the last night of the Proms. It has become a tradition and I felt that changing it played straight into the hands of the terrorists. Whats wrong with a bit of lighthearted fun even at a time like that?

Subject: RE: BS: ' The Proms' ?
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 08:36 AM

Couldn't agree more, Mrs. Duck. A rousing chorus of "Jingo Bells" is exactly what was needed.

Don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning...

Subject: RE: BS: ' The Proms' ?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 12:41 PM

Mrs Duck, you think those hi-jackers were wanting us to change the proms programme? It's a possibility, I suppose.

Fraid I'm with our guest on this. American hand-on-heart "god save America" stuff leaves me cold, and the last night of the proms had become the one occasion when we ran them close.

I thought the Adagio was a fine choice, as was Beethoven's Ninth. For my money, these are pieces that reach beyond national boundaries, but perhaps you're uncomfortable with that.