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BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers

GUEST,JohnB 08 Nov 01 - 12:48 PM
Lyrical Lady 08 Nov 01 - 01:40 PM
Kim C 08 Nov 01 - 01:45 PM
Helen 08 Nov 01 - 05:02 PM
Helen 08 Nov 01 - 05:15 PM
GUEST,Sooz(at work) 09 Nov 01 - 08:20 AM
mmm1a 09 Nov 01 - 07:09 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 24 Dec 01 - 08:18 AM
GUEST,Desdemona 24 Dec 01 - 11:58 AM
artbrooks 24 Dec 01 - 01:57 PM
Abuwood 24 Dec 01 - 04:49 PM
gnu 24 Dec 01 - 05:35 PM
GUEST,Jenny the T 10 Jan 02 - 12:59 AM
Stilly River Sage 10 Jan 02 - 02:31 AM
Helen 10 Jan 02 - 06:32 AM
Terry K 10 Jan 02 - 10:26 AM
Stilly River Sage 10 Jan 02 - 11:10 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 08 Nov 01 - 12:48 PM

Ours was the cheapest we could get that looked and felt decently made, can't remember the make. It also like Mousethief's walked off the counter. We still use it, although the top falls off now if you let it fall back too far. Like Homeless, we make weird breads with different stuff in them. The currant favourite (pun intended) has sunflower seeds and marmalde in it. My SO. used to make bread by hand two to three times a week but with the rheumatoid arthritis having taken it's toll the machine makes the best bread we have had for years. JohnB


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 08 Nov 01 - 01:40 PM

It's the heel in our house too, but only on a long french type loaf. We call the ends of store bought sliced ... crusts.

LL


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: Kim C
Date: 08 Nov 01 - 01:45 PM

Now see, I can bake bread, no problem. I've only ever lost one batch.

I can make pie. I can make plum pudding (and the sauce too). I can't bake a cake from scratch worth a shit, though. Maybe I need that Kitchen Aid!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: Helen
Date: 08 Nov 01 - 05:02 PM

Another bread thread here, with recipes


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: Helen
Date: 08 Nov 01 - 05:15 PM

Okay guys. Stop just talking about these great & reliable bread recipes and start posting them in the thread I just linked to - pleeeaaase! Oatmeal, sunflower & marmalade, "Orange cinnamon bread, Prune bread, Lasagna bread and other strangeties" (love that word).

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: GUEST,Sooz(at work)
Date: 09 Nov 01 - 08:20 AM

I stuff my freezer with home-made bread rolls every week. I use a food processor to mix the dough and real fresh yeast. (Not the dried extra slow stuff). I can have bread rolls out of the oven within one hour of putting the ingredients in the processor. Who needs another machine?


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: mmm1a
Date: 09 Nov 01 - 07:09 PM

Mortcia nope no irish blood here , German on my Moms side and Scottish and sweedish on my Dads. I never knew that the ends of the loaf were called anything else but heels :). Helen I will look up some of my recipes and post them for all most of mine are pretty basic. mmm


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 08:18 AM

There is a Kenwood bread machine in Allders for 100pounds (reduced from 120).


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 11:58 AM

I have to agree with Spaw's post above: I wish they'd make one that produced bread that was SHAPED like bread!

We loooooove fresh bread, but with 3 kids under 15, we'd need a machine that made multiple loaves to keep the place supplied! My mum had 4 kids & always made about a dozen loaves at a go, and the idea of one loaf at a time just seems inadequate to me.

On the other hand, the idea of a lovely loaf of fresh bread every morning is not without appeal----I suppose my main concern would be the effect such a thing would have on my butter consumption ;~) !


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: artbrooks
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 01:57 PM

No machine here...the offer has been made and resoundingly rejected. Herself used to bake bread at least weekly, but not since the kids hit their mid-teens and she's been working full-time. Understandable. We tend to call the end of the bread the "kri'-tchick"...Yiddish, I think.


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: Abuwood
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 04:49 PM

We just had a machine for Christmas, the girls bought it for me so it can't have been that expensive it is a Goodmans. The bread is gorgeous, doesn't have time to get cold in our house and the smell when you get up in the morning is wonderful! My New Years Resolution is to set it every work day and wake up to a proper breakfast using the rest of the loaf for lunchtime sandwiches. It is just the right size for 2 people. Go on take the plunge and enjoy it. They put all sorts of chemicals in bought bread nowadays, whatever the government feel is healthy ingredient of the month, you don't know what you are eating. Cheers Alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: gnu
Date: 24 Dec 01 - 05:35 PM

Didn't read the thread. Haven't got time. A friend of mine has tried several brands and says the best is Black & Decker... seriously.


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: GUEST,Jenny the T
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 12:59 AM

Me mum does a right fine job. They look like a bum with a knob hot from the oven.


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 02:31 AM

Okay. A bread maker (with hands) will now weigh in. I thought bread machines were superflouous, and told my Dad so when he told me about his. But I gave him my recipe for whole wheat bread, modified for his machine. Darned if a machine didn't come in the mail the next week, from Dad. We tried it out, I was talking to him on the phone about it, and said "we'll have to get used to the wierd shaped loaves," to which my (now ex) husband shouted from across the room "we're used to it! We're used to it!"

We have several machines in the family that came from (now defunct) DAK. He got his machines from Welbuilt. I think the last place I saw one of those was at Sears (in the US) for about $100. They're great machines, and you can adjust the level of brownness, the type of bread (has a wheat setting), and like one post above said, if you clean the counter or put it on a damp cloth, and make sure it is toward the back of the counter, it'll stay put.

My recipe for whole wheat bread in a three pound machine loaf:

1 tablespoon yeast
3 cups white flour
1 cup whole wheat flour
1/4 cup brown sugar
1 teaspoon salt
2 tablespoons olive oil
1 1/3 cup warm water

Put the yeast in first, then the flour, sugar, and salt. Make kind of a bowl shape in the flour for these and the water, especially if you're going to use a timer setting and let it mix and bake later. Then your yeast will stay dry until it starts mixing.

I use the manual setting a lot, so that it does the work on my dough, then I take it out and shape it. I make rolls and pizza dough in there frequently.

My roll recipe that people request for potluck dinners:

1 tablespoon yeast
3 cups white flour
1/2 cup whole wheat flour
2 tablespoons granulated sugar 1 teaspoon salt
1 egg (warmed to at least room temp.)
3 tablespoons (approx) olive oil (I just pour it in till it looks right)
1 cup warm water
A healthy shake of garlic powder, ~1-2 teaspoons
2 to 3 teaspoons dried oregano, ground in the palm of your hand before dropping it on the dough

I put this in the machine on the manual setting, regular speed or turbo if I'm in a hurry. As you can see by some of my measurements, this is what my ex called "vibration cooking"--you just put the ingredient in until it "feels right." Not a method for novices.

If you make this dough without garlic and oregano, it's wonderful for cinnamon rolls.

My parting shot, the SINGLE biggest reason people of my acquaintance go out and buy bread machines:

Fresh baked bread is about as close to mother's milk for an elemental food as I can think of. The response is an instantaneous lunge for a serrated bread knife and a tub of margarine. Now imagine this: you set the machine up before you go to bed, and set the timer so the loaf will quit baking at the time you get up. (They often cool for as much as 30 minutes with a fan running after they bake. This sometimes leaves them soggy if you let it cool in the machine). You roll out of bed, get to the kitchen to start your tea or coffee just as the bread finishes. Pop it out, let it cool for a couple of minutes, then go get the kids up. It's much easier to get them out of bed when they smell the bread. Their stomachs bring them to the breakfast table. It always works here!

Sorry to go so long--I hope the recipes help. They are for the large 3-pound loaf, but with the exception of the egg, everything measures easily in smaller amounts. For a smaller loaf, figure the standard large egg equals a quarter cup of liquid. Substitute some of the egg for a little of the water. This size loaf also fits a standard size (US) bread pan. Bake at 375 for about 40 minutes if you make it on the manual machine setting, or just make this loaf by hand.

Maggie


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: Helen
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 06:32 AM

Thanks for the recipes, Maggie. You're going to start me off on another bread making binge. Just when I got ove the last one.

Oh well, I'm enjoying these great recipes.

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: Terry K
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 10:26 AM

Yep, just got the latest Panasonic. Fantastic, it makes bread-shaped bread (unlike the weird shape the old model makes) and is a success every time. (Nearly - my attempt at onion bread refused to rise). I've generally stuck to the standard loaves so far and the 50% wholewheat is to die for. And you really wouldn't have got me eating wholewheat without good reason. A revelation!

Cheers, Terry


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Subject: RE: BS: Absolute BS - Bread-Makers
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 11:10 AM

I should note that in the above recipe I use water instead of warm milk in my roll dough because we have dairy allergies. In many cases I think it improves bread to not use milk. But the original recipe calls for it. I often add a couple of tablespoons of dry soy milk to the mix then add the water when milk is called for.


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