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Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman (Seamus Kennedy)

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ANGUS AND THE KILT
THE SCOTSMAN'S KILT


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Subject: The Scotsman
From: GUEST,kclear@mac.com
Date: 13 Dec 01 - 10:29 AM

Hello all you folk music lovers.

I recently came across a song that I'm sure many of you are familiar with. It's a fun little ditty involving drink, sex, and adventure. It is called "The Scotsman." Now I have the words to the song and an accapella audio version in MP3 format, but I do not have any chords for this song. Does anyone have the text and chords, or even a sheet music version of this masterpiece. I'm hoping to do it for a gig before too long.

Any help would be most appreciated.


Click for lyrics in Digital Tradition


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: MMario
Date: 13 Dec 01 - 10:38 AM

midi is here

lots of programs around that will convert that to sheet music for you, some even add chords.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 13 Dec 01 - 10:46 AM

Since you have the words to the song, how about sharing them here? Thanks


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Dec 01 - 10:54 AM

George, it's in the DT....HERE

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: MMario
Date: 13 Dec 01 - 10:58 AM

George - I strongly suspect it is "The Scotman's Kilt" in the DT

- ps - Joe! Any way to do a relative link to a search result?


Yeah, MMario - Use Digitrad and Forum Search (Supersearch), and pare the results down to the bare bones. You get this:

/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=6947

It's in the FAQ - one of the most recent messages.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: GUEST,John Lockhart
Date: 13 Dec 01 - 01:24 PM

The song is published in a book of contemporary folk songs by various artists - of course I can't remember the title, and I'm at work, but I'll try to remember it for tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: GUEST,tequilaron
Date: 13 Dec 01 - 03:34 PM

The name of the book to which John refers is "New Folk Favorites" edited by Will Schmid and published by Hal Leonard Publishing Corp. of Milwaukee, WI. It is an absolutely fantastic collection of all the songs I always wanted to learn. I believe I purchased it from Elderly Instruments. Try their web site. Good luck. Ron.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: Robin2
Date: 13 Dec 01 - 08:51 PM

Just curious, do yoiu know who performs the Mp3 you have?


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: raredance
Date: 13 Dec 01 - 11:08 PM

Some day some body should remove the "?" from behind Mike Cross' name in the DT version.

rich r


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: GUEST,Keltik
Date: 14 Dec 01 - 11:28 AM

And then there is the matter of the 2 "extra verses" that got added somewhere along the line... PG13, so you've been warned.. *G*

Our scottish friend, still clad in kilt
continued down the street.
And he hadn't gone 10 yards when
another lass he chanced to meet.
She said "I've heard what's under there,
Sir tell me is it so?"
He said "just slip your hand up miss,
if you'd really like to know.

Ring ding...etc.

She slipped her hand right up his kilt,
and found, to her surprise,
the scotsman smiled, and very strange look
came into his eyes.
She said "Why sir, thats *gruesome*!"
and then sher heard him roar,
"If you'll put your hand up once again,
you'll find its "gruesome" MORE!

Ring ding...etc.

:P

AFAIK, not written by M.Cross. I have no idea who did...I learned it in the oral tradition, if you'll pardon the phrase in this context! ;)

anyone have a clue who did write them?


See below, Keltic - Seamus Kennedy says he wrote them.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: GUEST,Kenny B
Date: 14 Dec 01 - 03:24 PM

If you require a double dose of "Scotsman" why not try "Grigaloo" by Matt McGinn in the DT

I am still trying to do Blue Clickies. I've read the FAQ's and the Blue Clicky Thread, and I will persevere.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Dec 01 - 04:56 PM

I thought I had seen it attributed to Burns, but I didn't find it on the gigantic Burns website which purports to have it ALL. Oh well. "Trad/Anon" I guess.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Dec 01 - 06:40 PM

Well, did we ever decide whether this came originally from Mike Cross, of it it's a joke Cross set to music like "Elma Turl," or what?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Dec 01 - 07:26 PM

I first saw the "poem" in - of all places, The Reader's Digest ca. 1952 or 3. It was reported as "grandma's favorite," but granny's name wasn't given. It is apparently fairly old.

Aside from Mike Cross, it has also been done on the album Home, Home On The Road, Bryan Bowers, Flying Fish Records, CD FF70091.

John


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: GUEST,little john cameron
Date: 14 Dec 01 - 07:36 PM

Oan behalf o' Scots ower the world"For Gawds Sake,gies a brek an' delete the stupid thing" Joe it wis stertit oot as a joke,bit some bampot set it tae music.
when wis the last time somebody asked a complete stranger"Whit hae ye got in yere pants"Ah'm gettin bloody fed up wi' less then handsome weemin stickin there hauns up mah kilt.Is there naethin sacred oneymair? ljc


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Dec 01 - 07:47 PM

LJC--no. Nothing. So, what have you got up your kilt? *sg*


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: GUEST,tequilaron
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 11:03 AM

Joe, The song is attributed to Mike Cross in the "New Folk Favorites Song Book". Ron


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: UB Ed
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 04:36 PM

Try any I, IV, V progression for chords. I find a single strum (staccato?) for each chord works best for the lyrics and strumming for the refrain.

Good Luck

Ed


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 05:53 PM

Hi, Ron - I know the song was written by Mike Cross, but is the idea his? "Elma Turl" is certainly an original song, but the idea is expressed in songs by Buffy Ste. Marie, Jimmy Driftwood, a poem by Robert W. Service, and others.
All versions of "Scotsman" that I've seen lead back to Mike Cross, but is it completely his?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: little john cameron
Date: 16 Dec 01 - 07:48 PM

Sorcha,if ah telt ye ah wid hae tae kill ye!! ljc


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 17 Dec 01 - 12:37 AM

LJC is correct in that it was an old joke set to music by Mike Cross. Then Bryan Bowers did a version that got a lot of airplay, and I wrote the last two verses which also were another old joke.

All the best.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Dec 01 - 12:51 AM

Hi, Seamus - might you be able to post the lyrics you wrote, or are they in the Digital Tradition already?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: SINSULL
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 12:05 AM

Anyone have the lyrics to the other "Scotsman's Kilt" song? The groom's mother makes him a kilt and has yards of extra fabric which she promises for the bride. He, somewhat dimwitted, wears the kilt to his bride's home to show her his mother's wonderful handiwork BUT catches it an a nail and loses it. He gets to her home, opens his coat and hangs out in all his glory with the added exclamation "There are several yards more for you at home". Someone sang it on Hearme a while back.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE SCOTSMAN (Seamus Kennedy)
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 03:00 AM

OK, Joe, here goes: if someone wants to put them in the DT, please feel free..

Our Scottish friend, still dressed in kilt, continued down the street,
He han't gone ten yards or more when a girl he chanced to meet,
She said, "I've heard what's under there, tell me is it so?"
He said, "just slip your hand up, Miss, if you'd really like to know."
Chorus of your choice.

She put her hand right up his kilt and much to her surprise
The Scotsman smiled, and a very strange look came into his eyes
She cried: "Why sir, that's gruesome!" And then she heard him roar:
If you put your hand up once again, you'll find it's grew some more!"
Chorus

I'd also like to get the words and tune for the song Sinsull is asking for.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 04:21 AM

Well, Sinsull - I did a Google search for kilt nail yards and came up with a joke here (click).
-Joe Offer-



This joke may not make sense in certain places, but I`m telling it how I heard it told. Just to let you know, it was done with a very good fake Scottish accent, and I have to agree it sounds much better that way.

A Scottish man wanted to make himself a kilt to impress his wife, so he went to the store to get the material.
"I`d like twenty yards o` material to make meself a kilt now." he told the store clerk.
"We`re havin` a sale this week," the clerk told him. "Thirty yards for the price o` twenty."
"Okay then," the man said, "I`ll have thirty yards. I can make me wife a scarf with the extra ten yards."
So he buys the thirty yards and goes home to make himself the kilt. Finally he finishes the kilt and he puts it on and walks over ot his wife`s house to show her. But on the way there his kilt gets stuck on a nail and rips off.
So he gets to his wife`s house and knocks on the door. She answers and he puts on his best pose.
"D`yeh like it?" he asks.
"I love it." she replies appreciatively.
"Well, if yeh like that, I`ve another ten yards t` wrap around yer neck."

In Scotland, the most important time for a young lad is when he "comes of age" and is allowed to purchase and wear his first kilt.

A couple of weeks before his important birthday, a young lad went to a tailor shop and found the material he wanted for his first kilt. He took the material to the tailor and said, "I'd like ye to make me a kilt with this material here and, if ye don't mind, I'd like ye to make me a pair of matching underwear for it. I hear it gets a might drafty up dem tings!"

So the tailor took the material and promised to call the young lad when the order was completed. A few days later the tailor called the lad back to the shop.

"Here's ye kilt, and here's ye matching underwear, and here's five yards of the material left over. Ye might want to take it home and keep it in case you want anything else made of it." 

So the lad rushed home with his order, threw the material in his room, and donned his kilt. In his excitement, he decided to run to his girlfriend's house to show off his new purchase. Unfortunately, in his excitement, he forgot to don his underwear.

When his girlfriend answered the door, he pointed to his kilt and said, "Well, what'd ye think?"

"Ah, but dat's a fine looking kilt," she exclaimed.

"Aye, and if ye like it, ye'll really like what's underneath," he stated as he lifted his kilt to show her.

"Oh, but dat's a dandy," his girlfriend shouted admiringly.

Still not realizing that he didn't have his underwear on he exclaimed quite proudly, "aye, and if ye like it, I've got five more yards of it at home!"
Copied from this site (click)


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 04:28 AM

So, Seamus, you're the one who came up with those verses, which seem to be the same as the ones Keltic cited above as "learned from the oral tradition." Gee, Seamus, I guess that makes you "traditional."
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: little john cameron
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 08:30 AM

There once wis a Scotsman named Andy,When the drink it wis spilt
wiped it up wi' his kilt
an' said"By Jaysus,that's handy.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: MMario
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 08:32 AM

Sinsull - that would be "Angus and the Kilt" - from Lolly Foy.

Seamus - I can sing it for you...gee, that means I'll have to go to another one of your concerts.

Lyrics are:herre


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: GUEST,Keltik
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 11:44 AM

slight thread drift....i wonder if my family would kill me for trying to sneak down to harry browns on Xmas eve to see Seamus play... so rare that i have a monday off and be in annapolis at the same time... *G*


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: MMario
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 12:11 PM

go for it!


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: SINSULL
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 02:02 PM

Thanks, MMario. Merry Christmas!


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 18 Dec 01 - 11:08 PM

MMario, thanks. I'm going to be at the Shannon Pub in Buffalo, December 28th through the 31st, if you're in the area. Otherwise, I'll be back in Milestones in Rochester, April 7th. I'd love to hear you sing it, and if you're like me, you can be bribed with a few free pints! Keltic, please don't come to Harry Browne's on Christmas Eve, I ain't a-gonna be there. I never work on holidays, so I can be with my family. Merry Christmas, all you 'Catters.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: MMario
Date: 19 Dec 01 - 09:03 AM

awwwww FECK! I'm on animal duty the 28th & 29th; and a must goto syracuse trip the 30th - 31st I'm in Ithaca. April it will have to be.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: The Scotsman
From: GUEST,me
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 07:08 AM

http://www.911tabs.com/link/?5655401


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