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Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea

Gareth 31 Dec 01 - 06:01 PM
Bill D 31 Dec 01 - 06:57 PM
Amos 31 Dec 01 - 07:01 PM
kendall 31 Dec 01 - 07:30 PM
Gareth 31 Dec 01 - 07:37 PM
gnu 31 Dec 01 - 07:47 PM
Amos 31 Dec 01 - 08:02 PM
catspaw49 31 Dec 01 - 08:10 PM
Banjer 31 Dec 01 - 08:15 PM
gnu 31 Dec 01 - 08:31 PM
GUEST 31 Dec 01 - 08:44 PM
Paul from Hull 31 Dec 01 - 09:00 PM
Morticia 31 Dec 01 - 09:10 PM
kendall 31 Dec 01 - 10:33 PM
marty D 01 Jan 02 - 01:20 AM
katlaughing 01 Jan 02 - 01:36 AM
gnu 01 Jan 02 - 04:35 AM
Liz the Squeak 01 Jan 02 - 04:59 AM
CarolC 01 Jan 02 - 06:25 AM
Banjer 01 Jan 02 - 07:38 AM
Amos 01 Jan 02 - 10:50 AM
Peg 01 Jan 02 - 11:45 AM
Amos 01 Jan 02 - 12:05 PM
MudGuard 01 Jan 02 - 12:59 PM
gnu 01 Jan 02 - 03:14 PM
Murray MacLeod 01 Jan 02 - 04:04 PM
Amos 01 Jan 02 - 04:18 PM
GUEST,Sheila 01 Jan 02 - 05:08 PM
CarolC 01 Jan 02 - 06:38 PM
Liz the Squeak 01 Jan 02 - 07:01 PM
Amos 01 Jan 02 - 07:57 PM
CarolC 01 Jan 02 - 08:13 PM
gnu 01 Jan 02 - 08:45 PM
gnu 01 Jan 02 - 08:52 PM
53 01 Jan 02 - 09:33 PM
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gnu 02 Jan 02 - 05:08 AM
Guessed 02 Jan 02 - 10:28 AM
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gnu 02 Jan 02 - 02:52 PM
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Snuffy 03 Jan 02 - 08:18 AM
gnu 03 Jan 02 - 08:52 AM
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katlaughing 03 Jan 02 - 10:32 AM
SharonA 03 Jan 02 - 10:39 AM
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gnu 03 Jan 02 - 01:40 PM
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Burke 03 Jan 02 - 07:38 PM
katlaughing 03 Jan 02 - 07:48 PM
Amos 03 Jan 02 - 08:17 PM
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Subject: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Gareth
Date: 31 Dec 01 - 06:01 PM

Acting upon a request, and as nobody shouted (posted) No ! Please use the Blue Clicky below to access the nominations page.

This will be up for three days as at now 23.00 GMT 23.DEC.01.

CLICK HERE TO NOMINATE

Any complaints via PM please

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Dec 01 - 06:57 PM

if nominated I will not run...if elected I...huh?

.....whazzat?

Oh...ok, never mind...I guess there ain't time for speeches & campaigning anyway


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Amos
Date: 31 Dec 01 - 07:01 PM

Well, I think I sent it, butNetscape doesn't show the Send progress. BTW, the suggested categories have been edited according to editorial policy as established by the Survey Technical Director, Gareth....


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: kendall
Date: 31 Dec 01 - 07:30 PM

If I'm elected, there will be a little pot in every chick.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Gareth
Date: 31 Dec 01 - 07:37 PM

Anon Guest and others.

Please don't hit return until your finished. It sends a blank, or partially completed form.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 31 Dec 01 - 07:47 PM

Kendall... bribery ! I love it.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Amos
Date: 31 Dec 01 - 08:02 PM

Kendall:

I think it's been done, at least as far as Mudcat chicks are concerned!!

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 Dec 01 - 08:10 PM

Guys....Kendall is referring to chicks....real chicks....You know, CHICKENS!!! It's the only way he can get them to agree to a little sex...and I do mean "little." I mean like the Llahma gets worn out sometimes and Kendall keeps a few chickens for emergencies.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Banjer
Date: 31 Dec 01 - 08:15 PM

To paraphrase Samuel Clemens, aka:Mark Twain, "I would not want to join any organization that would elect the likes of me!"


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 31 Dec 01 - 08:31 PM

I thought he plucked the chickens and rode on the llama. Typos, eh ?


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Dec 01 - 08:44 PM

Gareth,

Just because you've recently learned how to do HTML forms, doesn't mean that you need to force them down our necks.

PLEASE don't start refreshing this thread when you get no interest.

Thank you.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 31 Dec 01 - 09:00 PM

Guest,

I'm just wondering why someone so evidently intelligent & erudite as yourself should feel the need to be so childish & frankly, insecure?

I'm wondering.....thats not to say I care, of course.

Sod off.

One more thing I'm curious about...was it just that you were determined tto be the 1st person to troll us in 2002, or is it that you are determined to have a go at all the UK 'catters & to work up slowly to taking on the wider world as your 'confidence' grows?


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Morticia
Date: 31 Dec 01 - 09:10 PM

Kendall darling, bribery is superflous to those who know you *LOL*


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: kendall
Date: 31 Dec 01 - 10:33 PM

Spaw, I'm glad I didn't have a mouthful of coffee when I read your post! Morty, dont spread it around! It can be our little secret.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: marty D
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 01:20 AM

I'm repeating a post I made in the other 'mudcatter of the year' thread because I hadn't seen this one. Sorry for the repetition, but it's something I feel strongly about.

"Boy, I hate to be a party pooper since I'm such a booster of this place, but the whole 'mudcatter of the year' thing troubles me a bit. What makes this site special is it's collective personality. There are people who have offered SO much help, but in threads that guitarists only look at. Same with ballad threads. Same with accordion threads. Same with threads where people are having serious personal difficulties, etc. etc. SO MANY help in so many different ways that may not be apparent to the group as a whole. The overwhelming dynamic is SO positive that the creepiest critics no matter HOW long they've been here, are forced to do their spewing under 'Guest' monikers. That in itself says a LOT for the site's community feel. I certainly won't be voting for individual honors, and I have no idea whether anyone agrees with me, but that's the way I feel."

marty


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 01:36 AM

Well, you've got a point, Marty, but I think if you look at the 'Cat-a-gories as Gareth and Amos lined them up, there's room for a bit of choosing. And, it is after all just a bit of the fun that goes on around here. I suppose we could have broken it down even more and made it for each section as you've noted, i.e. helpful in guitar thread, in general threads, etc., but for a first time I don't think Gareth and Amos did too badly and I know Skarpi had the best of intentions with the original thread.

All the best,

kat


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 04:35 AM

Well, marty, I was going to post that I thought it seemed a bit "high school", but I did not want to offend. Seems I could learn a bit from you about tact. I won't be voting. Thanks for explaining why, marty.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 04:59 AM

I posted, but you might not like it.....

I don't think it fair to do this sort of thing, just like I don't like the Queens' Honours list (mind you I don't like the Queen much either!).

It highlights those who have blown their own trumpets about their achievements, which is vulgar, and it skims over those who just go on plodding, day after day, week after week, and get the work done. This year has highlighted this enormously.

Individuals have shouted from the highest rooftop their sinlge achievements, when they should have kept decently quiet. They have been recognised for one thing, which makes them think they are universally adored, and can do no wrong. They believe that because they are regarded with honour in one place for one action, that they can impose all their wishes, desires, beliefs and lifestyle on all others across the world.

Suddenly, because of one action by someone else, a whole heap of people get shoved into the limelight and patronised, just for going about their everyday business. Where is the praise and adoration when they ask for a decent wage, for better working conditions, for sensible working hours, for more money to replace worn out and dangerous equipment?

And if you think this "song" is about you - it probably is!!!

LTS


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 06:25 AM

There are just too many people I care about who won't get this award in any of the categories listed for me to be able to feel good for the ones who do get it. So I will recuse myself from participating.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Banjer
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 07:38 AM

I too feel that I could not make a choice of ONE indiviudal of the year. First thought comes to mind would be of course, Max, for making this wonder available to all of us. Secondly, the folks that help keep it going, Joe, Pene, and others whom we don't even know for sure are behind the scene workers. Thirdly, all the wonderful folks that grace us here with their presence; ie:Jean Ritchie, who has had a large effect in all our lives, Art Thieme, whose determination and good sense of humor has inspired many of us, Catspaw, who we have seen through many rough times, all of us holding our breaths day to day for news of his progress. This is just a small sample of the many folks that have made this place a joy to come to, there are many others, too many to name. How can we make such a choice?


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 10:50 AM

Hmmm. too many jewels to pick from at the 'Cat? I concur. One catter of the year is an impossible choice. That's why I suggested various funny categories exactly, gnu, like high school. It is also true that there are many more than one prety good candidates for and role -- for example the Republican nomination for President -- and many more qualified than the one who ends up being nominated. People choose anyway. We're not shooting for Truth and Beauty here, folks. This is supposed to be a sorta parlor game. Don't take it TOO seriously!! If there are goingt obe hurt feelings because not all candidates can win all caregories then, may I humbly suggest, someone needs to have their hide toughened a bit or drop in on "LivesRUs".com

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Peg
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 11:45 AM

I kinda agree with Liz the Squeak on this...however, Mudcatters will be Mudcatters, so I think a potential solution is to include more categories.

I suggest a few more:

Most Knowledgeable in Matters Celtic
Best Guitar Advice
Most Respectable Knowledge of Obscure Instruments
Most Erudite about Early Music
Best Encyclopedic Knowledge of Lyrics
Most Likely to Differentiate Between "Pop" Music and other types (and rightly so)
Mudcatter I'd Most Like to Drink With
Mudcatter I'd Most like to Eat With
Mudcatter I'd Most like to Sing with
Mudcatter I'd Most like to Play (insert instrument here) with
Most Helpful/Hospitable to Travelling Mudcatters
Most Humble Mudcatter
Wittiest Mudcatter
Most Optimistic Mudcatter
Best Looking
Most Likely to Succeed

(well those last two are kinda high school...but why not?)

Happy new year

Peg


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 12:05 PM

There ya go, Peg O' Me Heart!

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: MudGuard
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 12:59 PM

Perhaps we should introduce a category for each mudcatter, so everyone can win:

Like
Category Most Max-like Mudcatter
Category Most MudGuard-like Mudcatter
and so on ...


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 03:14 PM

I AM beginning to enjoy this thread. Amos is right. If it's just for a lark, I'll try to have some fun at it as well. My apologies for being so cranky at having to get up at zero five hundred dark hours on New Year's Day to prepare for a cold and dirty building inspection. Peg has an excellent idea... the more categories, the better. The categories could be more fun than poking fun at the nominees... hey, I got a couiple... Thinnest Skin ? Least Tactful ?

Most tactful ? No contest. CC... "... So I will recuse myself from participating." That's tact.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 04:04 PM

Peg's list omitted an essential category "Mudcatter I would most like to sleep with".

Murray


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 04:18 PM

I think Gareth has final design call on the categories list.

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: GUEST,Sheila
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 05:08 PM

ANYONE who ever responded to a query from me is a winner in my book! Happy, Healthy New Year to us all!


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 06:38 PM

If there are goingt obe hurt feelings because not all candidates can win all caregories then, may I humbly suggest, someone needs to have their hide toughened a bit or drop in on "LivesRUs".com

I tell you what, Amos. I won't criticize or poke fun at you for participating, and you don't criticize or poke fun at me for not participating. Deal?

(Sorry gnu. I'm afraid that was probably less than tactful, but it was the best I could do at the moment.)


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 07:01 PM

So I guess I've already won the 'fattest arse of the Mudcat' award, judging by posts last year.... although I am happy to decline, on the ground that I know of at least two fatter than mine.....

And I think the 'Mudcatter I'd most like to sleep with' is getting a bit near the edge.... there have been derogatory threads already about that sort of thing and we don't really want to encourage it do we.....?

If we must have nominations, let's at least have some that are non-flammable please?

LTS


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 07:57 PM

Geez, Carol, I'm not rounding up participants -- if you want to bite your tongue, be my guest. I didn't say you should or you shouldn't. I just said we shouldn't act like children about something that was offered in a spirit of play and bonhomie.

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 08:13 PM

Sounds good to me, Amos. I won't act like a child, and you can do whatever tickles your fancy.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 08:45 PM

Well, I intend to poke fun every chance I get. Just got to refrain from posting/poking until I've had me morning tea.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 08:52 PM

Gareth... what did you mean by... This will be up for three days as at now 23.00 GMT 23.DEC.01.

When will the list of roastees, er, nominees, be brought forward for "voting" ? Will it be a single ballot, or will there be runoffs ? Will there be any running off at the mouth ?

Most importantly, to the nominees, what am I bid for my vote(s) ?


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: 53
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 09:33 PM

sorcha, she helped me find my 1967 nickels that i was looking for, she should get the kindness award. BOB


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Peg
Date: 02 Jan 02 - 12:33 AM

Murray; I thought about it...but it does not seem like a good idea.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jan 02 - 05:08 AM

Perhaps sleep over with... or would that be "Most Entertaining" Mudcatter... could be both, I suppose.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Guessed
Date: 02 Jan 02 - 10:28 AM

hey what about the mudiest 'catter of 2001?


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Gareth
Date: 02 Jan 02 - 02:05 PM

Sorry Folks - I've tried to keep it non flamer & Troll proof - some hopes !!

The other problem was to keep it managable - again that required some editing.

Yes definitely a "run Off", can any Florida resident, Jeb B perhaps, offer advise on how to rig the ballot so that everybody wins?

Gareth

(PS Nobody has nominated themselves yet - Apart from Anon Guest that is.)


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jan 02 - 02:33 PM

CarolC .... for providing the most balanced and consistently rational posts throughout the entire year, but most particularly during the 9/11 tragedy.

If eyes are the windows to the soul, then words must be windows to the mind, and the words she types here are like peering through the glass into an ornately adorned palace.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jan 02 - 02:52 PM

"non flamer & Troll proof" ? I hope the questions I asked are not considered in this light. They were serious... injured minds want to know. I assume that no schedule has been set for the voting and that nominations did not close 26 December, prior to your thread of 31 December.

Keep us informed of the procedures and thanks for a great thread and a bit o fun.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Gareth
Date: 02 Jan 02 - 03:19 PM

No GNU set your mind to rest - nominations are still open.

Procedures Hmmm! lets se wot we get !

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Gareth
Date: 02 Jan 02 - 06:55 PM

I have received a few blank (no message not even no choice indicated) E Mails. I have replied by E Mail where possible. But if you have used the nomination form since say 2100 GMT and not received a response could you re send.

The HTML seems OK - so I don't think theres any problem there !

Gareth.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: MudGuard
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 03:52 AM

Gareth, you use

ACTION="mailto:..."

in your HTML form.

This works only on a few selected operating systems with a few selected combinations of web browsers and email clients.

Problems can be:
no email sent because no email client on the surfer's computer
no data in the email
only partial data in the email
...

It is much more reliable to use a server-based technology to send such form results. If your provider does not allow you to use CGI/PHP/ASP/JSP/Servlet/... there are some free formmail providers you could use. Ask google for "free formmailer" and take your pick.

MudGuard


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: GUEST,Skarpi Iceland.
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 06:05 AM

Halló all, Amos I like your idea. Thank you for it, Skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Snuffy
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 08:18 AM

Gareth, are you saying that all voters receive an acknowledgment? I didn't.(voted Tuesday evening)

WassaiL! V


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 08:52 AM

The vote is on ? I thought we were still in the nomination phase. None of the nominees have bid for my vote(s) yet. How can we have an election without election fraud ??!!


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 09:16 AM

Its nominating at this point, I think. Gareth -- do you plan a runoff for categories?

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 10:32 AM

I didn't get an acknowledgment, either. Was I supposed to?


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: SharonA
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 10:39 AM

I have to agree with CarolC: there are too many people whose worthy contributions to Mudcat would be overlooked while playing this "parlor game". So many games of this type can end up being unintentionally hurtful because of their intentionally exclusionary quality. Also, I fear that the results of this game will "feed" the trolls who complain about the "inner circle" of popularity at Mudcat.

Therefore, I am joining the ranks of those who will not be participating in this vote.

Sharon


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Pseudolus
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 01:17 PM

It's not the winning that counts, it's having the chance to nominate someone for something he/she did that made you happy/laugh/understand/feel comfort/think/see/do/be!! It could be that by not participating you may be doing the exact thing you're trting to avoid.....just food for thought. I don't have opinions about all of the categories but for the ones I do, I will certainly throw in my two cents!

Frank


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 01:40 PM

Two cents a vote !!?? Do I hear three ?


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Gareth
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 01:54 PM

Not Generally - Acknowlegments were sent when I started recieving Nul entries.

Mudgaurd - Fair comment - as you can see this was done rather short notice and I concur that a server provided system might do better. Ah well back to the drawing board.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 01:59 PM

I have three cents - but I have to send a SASE to get it... do I hear a dollar ?


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: SharonA
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 02:02 PM

But Pseudolus, more than one person here has made me "happy/laugh/understand/feel comfort/think/see/do/be"! By nominating one person for one thing he/she did, I pass over many others for all the things they've done. What I'm trying to avoid doing is snubbing anyone by playing an exclusionary game that says "this person's contribution is favored over that person's contribution". I think it's far better to tell everyone who has helped me in any way how much they all are appreciated.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Deda
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 02:05 PM

We want to run this like high school? I wouldn't go back to high school for all the tea in China, thanks, and I really love tea. The most whatever, according to whom, and on which day? Yes, it sounds like high school--which is the place where most of us suffered more than anywhere else before or since. Personally, I really hoped that hierarchies, gradations from best to worst, top to bottom, weren't going to enter my life or my thinking anymore. I also wouldn't run a contest for "Favorite member of my coffee club", or "Best parent", "Best child", "most fun co-worker". It can't help but be hurtful, no matter how innocently intentioned.

When it comes to categories, I've always liked the sound of "Most likely to succumb" -- but only for its euphonious silliness.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: skarpi
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 02:20 PM

Maybe this thread was not a good Idea....?? Sorry about that. All the best Skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Deda
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 04:26 PM

Dear Skarpi,

It's very sweet of you to apologize, you who have nothing to apologize for at all. Sorry I got snippy. This time of year has stresses connected with it. Forgive me.

Deda


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: GUEST,pariah
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 04:50 PM

I think everyone should award themselves a particular "Mudcat ______ of the Year." Then everyone who wishes to participate can get an award.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Burke
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 07:38 PM

I'm more interested to see who's nominated than in who actually 'wins.' I'd like to see a list of all the nominees without number of nominations listed.

It's easy to focus in on the names you recognize, those frequent posters. Right now I do have an opinion about some of the categories. If others have noticed the contributions of the less frequent & nominate them, I might actually pay more attention to what they are saying as well.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 07:48 PM

That's an interessting idea, Burke. As a compromise, why don't we just see a list of everyone who was nominated for each category and leave it at that?

OR, we could have a thread of thanks, where everyone can post a list of each and every person whom they'd like to thank, without getting too wordy or lengthy?

Skarpi, you didn't do anything wrong in suggesting. It's just a passle of cats never totally agree on anything!**BG**

kat


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 08:17 PM

Might as well try to herd a gaggle of wet hamsters!!!LOL!! Unruly buncha banderlogs!!! Ya gotta love 'em.

Sorry for stirring up unpleasant memories of high school, but the DIFFERENCE worth noting is this a group of highly rational mature, balanced, fun and humorous....

Ah....

Well....then. Hmmm.... Yes, well....

Perhaps Gareth, Skarpi, Spaw and I were a bity hasty at leaping forward into the...unknown, so to speak. Hmmphhh. Insensitive to all the delicacies with which we were inadvertently trifling. So sorry. Wrong tent! My, my... who'd a thunk it?

Treading on foie gras has always been one of my weak spots, anyway. Guess I'll go over to Morty's place and help scrub up after the bedpan or sumpn.... :>))

Aw, screw it. Go for the nominations anyway, Gareth, I say. If no-one loses, will every one be happy? Hard to say. Wasn't it Archibald Macleish who said "They, too deserve, who only sit and lurk...." Oh, hell, where's that solitaire game? At least I know that won't hurt anybody's hyper-delicacies....

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 10:07 PM

Geeziz.......Well Amos, ya' tried. I think the way it's going now, you'd be better off open the nominations to anyone for anything including themselves.........For instance you yourself might be the Catter most likely to crank out a song to any subject, say, like, pissing in the sink. Mick would be the Catter most likely to have a spud up his ass while organizing potato diggers. Fielding as the Catter most likely to become orgasmic over an F Chord played by a politician on Quentin Crisp's birthday.

The possibilities are endless.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 10:26 PM

Pissing in the Sink

Some say pissing in the sink is for the rotters
The ones who always live outside the law!
But I have known sink-pissers who were noble,
Why just for an example, Me and Spaw!


You should know enough to tell them all apart, friend
For the low-class pissers pee and walk away
While their betters pee and rinse it with the faucets,
But to pee in running water, thats classé!

Some say they would rather live amongst the wildlife,
Than with such barbarous heathens, so they think!
But when urgent need is on you, you'll discover
One good solution's pissing in the sink

There isn't a lot more to say about it,
But 'ere I leave just let me mention this:
You may swear and vow and sing and even shout it,
It sure as hell beats sinking in the piss.

Thanks for the opportunity, Spaw!! LOL!!

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Nerd
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 12:16 AM

All in all, I agree with Deda, the popularity contest thing is SO high school. On the other hand, any thread that gets Amos to write a song that good is worthwhile. Amos, you're a f---ing genius! (which is only surpassed by being a genius f---ing!)


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 12:34 AM

LMAO!!! Well-done, Amos!!


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Morticia
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 12:57 AM

I think you're wasted on washing the bedpan, mate...anyway, with only one, I have it covered, so to speak *BG*.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 07:36 AM

To add to a previous post... I AM enjoying this thread. Amos... priceless !!!

No vote - no sale. And I was going to donate all of the proceeds to my old high school's music department.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 09:26 AM

See? That's Amos! Quick and absolutely amazing!!! Sorrowfully, his sexual performance is only quick, but damn that songwriting really is truly amazing!!!!!

I'm now waiting for Mick to fart his spud and Rick to go off on the F Chord.........

Til then, how about we give John from Hull the "Catter most likely to post wacky ideas while under the influence."

or maybe one for Wolfgang as the "Catter most likely to throw the wet blanket of logic and documentation on an otherwise fun discussion?"

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 09:43 AM

Spaw:

I appreciate the fandango and all. But your sample of my sexual performance is not a fair basis on which to spread calumnies. You got me drunk first.

A.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 10:10 AM

Drunk is unfortunately the only way I can get anyone Amos so I have to go with it.............**sigh**..................But I have to say that watching you and that anteater was entertaining although the anteater seemed less than satisfied.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 10:45 AM

You will NOT get me into this thread Spaw!! Besides Garguile now says that not only are you dead but yer pathetic as well! Popularity contests are like Political elections...the moment the winners are declared they become corrupt. I prefer my inner cliques to be pure as the driven snow!

Guest Poopers


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: harpgirl
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 10:54 AM

I hereby nominate myself as "Mudcatter Most Likely to Piss off Another Mudcatter"....and proud of it!!!! LOL


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 11:17 AM

'Spaw...its not just John....we're full of ideas like that in Hull....

I mean, take a look at THIS pile of cack for instance:

http://www.humberbridge.co.uk/

*G*

(Sorry no blue clicky)


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Deda
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 11:41 AM

Hope I didn't ruin something here. When a relative of mine was nominated into an exclusive fraternity he threw the place into a bit of an uproar when he refused to go through the initiation.

Am I gonna be summonsed into the principal's office now??????


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: GUEST,Gusty
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 12:36 PM

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: AliUK
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 02:16 PM

I think spaw should get the nomination for the Catter that Prevaricates the most.I mean, Damn! He just never says what's on his mind.He beats around the bush ( whose Bush I wouldn't like to say but he beats around it an afull lot I hear), skirts the issues and never, but never gets to the point.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 03:00 PM

What's your point ?


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 03:48 PM

Ali:

You have made some very penetrating observations, and with feeling, as well. You are clearly in the running for Mudcat's Most Seminal Thinker... May your Cups run over!

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Gareth
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 04:30 PM

Please - no more nominations I is overloaded trying to sort out whats what.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: AliUK
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 05:44 PM

"seminal"I s that some kind of sexual double entendre, or do I have a dirty mind. *BG*


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 05:49 PM

Give it up Gareth......Lots of folks are worried about the high school aspect so I suggest we just keep making a few awards here and there like I've been doing. Matter of fact we could give you the "Catter Most Likely To Create a Poll on Any Damn Thing." Or we give Ali the "Catter Most Likely to Drop Out of Sight After Posting Some More of His Wackyass Shit." He might have to share that with khandu though.........

How about we give Jeri the "Most Musically Promising Catter Who Has Dragonflies on Her Hooters?" (You oughta' see the trophy for that one!) And Shambles of course.....Roger has really found his niche as a Crusading Catter which fits well with his abilities to write long treatises on the simplest subject like "my day at the zoo." So for Sham, the "Catter Most Likely to Write 3 Epics Each Longer than War and Peace to Save All Used Bazouki Strings."

And there is Banjer who definitely qualifies as the "Catter Most Likely to Have a Future in Bronzed Dog Shit."

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: AliUK
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 06:28 PM

I was gonna stick around for a while and not post anymore wackyass shit. But I don't have any imediate health or serious money problems so I think I willl stick around a bit. Plus I don't like sharing awards. gimmme gimme gimmee


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 07:03 PM

Ali--

I think there was at least one in there somewhere. In fact I thought you'd put some in there about bushes and such but maybe you were just being political...

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: kendall
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 07:09 PM

Harpgirl has that category wrapped up!


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: AliUK
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 07:09 PM

Yeah bush is a metaphor for the female sexual organs and G.W is a bit of a c...no, I won't say it. Hey! that's twice I've used the word metaphor today. I think I should be nominated for the "Catter who uses the word Metaphor most in one day" award.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: WyoWoman
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 10:24 PM

I'm voting for Hanging Chad.

ww


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 10:50 PM

Yeah, WyoWoman? I heard he was really hung....:-)


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 08:25 PM

well whatever became of the nominations and results?


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Deda
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 09:50 PM

Didn't you read the thread? The nominations and results were rained out by the Mudcatters Most Likely to Lodge Ridiculous Complaints Union -- all of whose members are secret.

Chairperson, MMLLRCU


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: DougR
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 11:39 PM

Aw Geeze! I KAWNT believe it. I come down on Carol C's side on this thread! Skarpi, no offence, I think you had a great idea, but the more I see the postings, the more I become convinced Carol C, is right. Too many worthy candidates, and I am not comfortable making a choice in any of the categories.

Well, Kendall might get my vote for the most contrary I guess.

DougR


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jan 02 - 11:49 PM

DougR oh ppppplllllllllleassssseeeeeeeee - thats a pity vote. "I pledge allegiance............" come on say it with me Carol.................


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Gareth
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 05:13 AM

Results delayed as I am collating them by hand.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 07:55 AM

Hope you drew the shades. And I hope you didn't have TOOO much grief from the fun pokers and nay sayers. No matter what anyone's view is, I'm sure we all appreciate the effort you put into this. Thanks... it was/will be fun.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Gareth
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 08:53 AM

gnu - no matter how hard you try to flatter me, I am not rigging this.

And now an afternoon of trying to fit everything ( and one) into a spread sheet.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: AliUK
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 09:50 AM

gareth: what If I sent you a hundred pounds will that be sufficient to rig it....damn is this not PM!??..Damn! Damn!


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Gareth
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 10:37 AM

Results of a sort.

Some quick work with Excell and here come the nominations.

Please note that all that was required to make the list was one nomination in any category.

BTW There did seem to be an American flavour to the participation - I don't suppose that this should be strange - This is more an American thing than than us reserved Brits, and other non amarican citizens.

In Alphabetical order, paying no attention to catagory, spelling or number of nominations :-

Aine
Amergin
Amos
Animaterra
Anyone who answed a question
Art Thieme
Bert
Big Mick
BillSable
Bob Bolton
Brendy
carolc
Clintom Hammond
Dave the A Mariner
Deda
DougR
Everyone
Gargoyle
gnu
Guest
Homeless
InOBU
Ivan B
Jean Ritchie
JenEllen
Jeri
Joe Offer
Joeclones
john freeman
Justa Picker
kat laughing
Kendal
little hawk
Liz the Squeak
M Ted
Malcolm Douglas
Malcom
Matsuto
Max
McGrath of Harlow
Micca
Mmario
Mudelves
pene azul
Peter T
rick fielding
Seamus Kenedy
Sorcha
spaw
The Shambles.
WyoWoman

It was a good return - many participated.

Now I could put this little list of names up for a run off ballot. But that would be unfair. Besides the joeclones & Mudelves could undoubtbly ensure that matters were resolved to thier entire satisfaction.

Instead I am going to take an example out of the American Electorial system and form an electoral college of One (ME)

Using all posible electronic methods, and carefully eliminating "hanging Chads" (Sorry Al !) I will anounce the winner(s) later tonite.

As with Judge Roy Bean, judges decision will be final.

Gareth

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: skarpi
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 10:52 AM

Halló all, Gareth- Great job, and that ´s the end of it right. You all see how many folks are nominated for doing so many great things so I know I vote for Max and I am gonna end this by saying this, we can all vote for us all that is the Mudcat Café, We are It all to gether right?. So on the 13th day of christmas here In Iceland or In (warmland) In the south raining winds all the best to you all and I hope we can help Max with his trouble . Your friend from Iceland Skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 10:56 AM

What about Guest???? I nominate GUEST


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 11:26 AM

It's there. And so am I ! Kinda looks like everyone who posted or was talked about in this thread is there. So, would the overall category be Most Without A Life ?


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: gnu
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 11:33 AM

Hey, I note that there are some who did post to this thread that are not on the list, so my hypothesis is flawed, but I still think I must have been nominated for Most w/o a Life... or Thinnest Skinned... or Most Likely to Post When He Should Know Better... or... geez, even I don't like me.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Gareth
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 12:17 PM

No - gnu - those who were nominated went through.

Results will be anounced when I return from the Royal Oak tonite.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: MudGuard
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 01:02 PM

when or if ? ;-)


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: AliUK
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 01:14 PM

This is unfair, I am the greatest ( though this may be due to my megalomania) mudcatter ever, nobody, but nobody is better than me...well...nobody except maybe Max, or catspaw or actuall come to think of it, anybody on the cat. Jeez whata revoltin' development. I seem to be the steam off of spaw's shit...damn!


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 01:21 PM

Yeah Ali, but I'm a really BIG pile of shit and gawd knows that makes you a LOT of hot air!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: AliUK
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 01:30 PM

vis a vis my last post to this thread 'spaw. Congratulations to the winners.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Gareth
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 01:51 PM

Andreas - Fair comment but as its Sunday Night No Lockin !

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 03:38 PM

That raises an issue for the Supreme Court, viz: what condition will Gareth be in when he returns from te Royal Oak, and does it still qualify him as possessed of th enecessary judgement? Or, mayhap, even enhance his judgement?

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: GUEST,Gunther Prien
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 04:20 PM

Zig-Zag course Gareth, U47 is still out there.


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Gareth
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 06:31 PM

Gunther, the Royal Oak I visit is in Wales, not Scapa Floe.

The Royal Oak having closed (and I set this up before visiting)

Now, the big one, the Winner of the Mudcatter of the Year Award 2001.

It was a hard choice, but I can say without fear or favour it was a unanimous decision of our electoral college (me).

First and foremost in the nominations as they rolled in, was the overwhelming gratitude to those who spent their time and effort keeping the site running, correcting our errors, passing out good advice, and information and acting as a moderating influence.

I am humbly proud to announce the Joint winners of the

Mudcatter of the Year 2001


In no particular order, the joint winners are: -

Max,
Joe,
Pene,
The Mudcat staff & helpers,
The Joe Clones,
The Mud Elves,
&
Everybody who took the time to answer, or help on a question..

All those involved in the nominations, and those who nominated, not thinking of themselves, are awarded the
Mudcat Gold Star of Unselfish Merit.

Thank you all for participating.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Gareth
Date: 06 Jan 02 - 07:08 PM

All E-Mail addresses have now been removed from my computer address book - and tomorrow I will defrag and then run an incinerator on a 7 pass (US military specification) over my hard disc's non registered sectors.

Can any Catter say (I use IE 5) why this should not work, I am anxius to remove any acusation that privacy has not been preserved. ( And to avoid spreading any virus or trojan I pick up)

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 31 Dec 02 - 06:33 PM


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Gareth
Date: 01 Jan 03 - 04:14 AM

I regret that due to the fact that I am working night shifts untill the end of January I have no time to do this this year.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Mudcatter of the year - Nominations Plea
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 26 Nov 03 - 08:37 PM


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