Lyr Req: Joy of My Heart (Hugh Roberton)

Subject: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From: GUEST,tony reilly
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 11:44 AM

I know I asked the same question a while back. What is the name of the Archie Fisher song:

Where ever I wonder east or west...

Thanks

tony

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 11:52 AM

In English it is "Isle of Mull." The original song is in gaelic an is something like "An Eillean Muilleach".

Well, I tried.

Murray

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From: Anglo
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 11:53 AM

He calls it "Joy Of My Heart."

It's on "Off The Map," (Archie Fisher & Garnet Rogers).

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 11:58 AM

I may have been thinking of a different (though not dissimilar) song.

Murray

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 12:46 PM

Your previous thread is here:  Help with the name of Archie Fisher song

A set of lyrics for Joy of My Heart (as recorded by the Tannahill Weavers) was posted here some time ago:  Island of Mull-Tannahill Weavers

An t-Eilean Muileach (The Isle of Mull) is here:  Tune Req: 'Isle of Mull'

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From: nutty
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 12:47 PM

GOOGLE HAS TURNED UP THIS SET OF LYRICS ......hope its the right song

JOY OF MY HEART

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From: nutty
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 12:48 PM

You beat me this time Malcolm .....lol

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From: DonMeixner
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 08:54 PM

Joy of MY Heart was also recorded by the Corries. I think on "Bonnet Belt and Sword", a beautiful song.

Don

Subject: Lyr Add: JOY OF MY HEART (Hugh Roberton)
From: raredance
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 09:06 PM

The record sleeve to the Archie Fisher/Garnet Rogers album "Off the Map" contains some slight differences to the Tannahill Weavers version. It is credited to H. Roberton and says it is translated from the gaelic so I don't know if Roberton wrote it or did this translation.

JOY OF MY HEART

CHORUS
Whether I wander East or West
Waking or dreaming thou art with me
Joy of my heart Eallann Mulla

Sing ye o' the cuillins of Skye
Of Harris and Eigg and fair Iona
Joy of my heart Eallann Mulla

Chorus

Peat and heather how they call me
Little wee bothan by the hillside
Joy of my heart Eallann Mulla

CH

Friendly hearts are waiting to cheer me
Welcoming arms are there to hold me
Joy of my heart Eallann Mulla

CH

rich r

Subject: Lyr Add: JOY OF MY HEART (Hugh Roberton)
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 18 Jan 02 - 11:26 PM

Thanks for that, Rich.  If only people who run websites (or make records) would take the trouble to credit their sources, and if people who quote from websites or records would quote the accompanying information and not just the lyric, it would be so much easier for us to help people.  Armed with the information you gave, it took little time to find the song (it was in a book about a yard from my head, as it happened).

The Tannahill recording is closer to Roberton's original song.  He wrote the words, which were translated into Gaelic by John R. Bannerman; the tune is traditional (Leannan mo ghaoil).  The wording of the attribution in Roberton's Songs of the Isles (1950) is a little ambiguous, which might explain the misunderstanding, though people -even the admirable Archie Fisher- do sometimes assume that a Gaelic version of an English language song must be "the original", whereas this is by no means always the case.  Here are Roberton's exact words :

JOY OF MY HEART

(Words: Hugh Roberton; Tune: trad; Leannan Mo Ghaoil. Translation into Gaelic: John R. Bannerman.)

Sing ye o' the Coolins of Skye, Of Harris, or Eigg, or fair Iona. Chorus: Joy of my heart, Isle of Moola! Whither I wander East or West, Waking or dreaming, thou art near me; Joy of my heart, Isle of Moola! Peat and heather! how you call me, Little wee bothan by the hillside. Kindly hearts are waiting to cheer me, Welcoming arms are there to hold me.

Luaidhibhse mu'n Chuilionn ghreannach Eig 'sna Hearradh 's I nan gràsan. Séisd: Eilean mo chrìdh Muile ghràdhach, Siubhlam sear no siubhlam siar; Mhoch's an ciaradh tha thu làmh rium, Eilean mo chrìdh Muile ghràdhach. Moine's fraoch 'gam ghairm gu caomh's am Bothan g'aoil is rogha fàrdaich. Sud far bheil na cairdean coibhneil Chuireas aoibh orm le'm fàilte.

A midi of the tune will go in due course to the  Mudcat Midi Pages; meanwhile, it can be heard via the  South Riding Folk Network  site:

Joy of my Heart (midi)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 19 Jan 02 - 01:17 AM

The first time I ever heard Archie sing was in the Abbey Seal at Hexham, Northumberland 'way back in the mid sixties. He sang "Joy of my Heart". I was coincidentally in conversation with a middle-aged lady and a [very] comely young lass.Folk singing was the topic. That, said the lady, is his mother's favourite song. "Now, how in heck d'ye know that?---"Cos I'm his Mither!" she replied. It WAS Mrs. Fisher, as it turned out, and the lassie was the first of many sightings I had of Cilla, she of Singing Kettle fame.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From: raredance
Date: 19 Jan 02 - 08:47 AM

Malcolm, a neat bit of research. Glad the "Roberton" reference triggered something useful rather than adding to the obscure. I agree with you that sometimes the little bits of what seem to be ancillary information provide the key to further insight. I might not have found what I did so easily without Anglo's information that it was on the Fisher/Rogers album.

rich r

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From:
Date: 19 Jan 02 - 09:11 AM

Malcolm. Out of curiosity, what was the book you found the information in? Sounds like a useful text.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 19 Jan 02 - 11:42 AM

It was from Roberton's Songs of the Isles (Vocal Edition: J. Curwen and Sons, apparently 1950).  I neglected to give the copyright date for the song, which is 1934 (USA).  There are twenty songs, mostly in English, largely based on traditional tunes, most -but not all- with input from Roberton as lyricist or arranger, including Mingulay Boat Song, Lewis Bridal Song (Mairi's Wedding) and so on.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From:
Date: 19 Jan 02 - 11:57 AM

It sounds like a wonderful book.

Doubt I'll have any luck finding a copy, but I'll be on the look out! Thanks for a great reference.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 19 Jan 02 - 12:48 PM

In fact it's not that hard to find; there are several copies available through the Advanced Book Exchange  at the moment.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From:
Date: 19 Jan 02 - 08:27 PM

Thanks. Was going to check locally first, then go there. They are quite handy aren't they? Thanks for the help, Malcolm.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Archies Fisher song Joy of My heart
From: GUEST,Jiggers
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 09:52 AM

Hi,

Have just heard this song on a compilation and love it.

Has anyone got the notes for this ? Can't turn up anything under leannan mo ghaoil on JC's abc or on google or here !

Would be nice to be able to play it when I'm on the Isle of Arran next month.

Here's hoping

Jiggers

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joy of My Heart (Hugh Roberton)
From: robcrickett
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 03:14 AM

Malcolm Douglas . . . thank you sooooooooo much sir for those words and background history to Joy Of My Heart.
I fell in love with an Irish girl in 1971 and sang in folk clubs with her and a couple of fiddle players here in Melbourne Australia for a couple of years. I'm no longer with the girl, but the song has utterly captured my heart. All these years later, I still sing it to people every now and then, like in America and Finland and Germany as well as back home here in Oz.
We got most of the words right in those days, but it has been so interesting to hear someone else sing it (on iTunes for the first time ever I just heard the Fishers and others do it) and to read the variations in the lyrics. It's nice to know how it is supposed to be done. Thanks so much for the original lyrics by H. Roberton. Great melody . . . fits the theme of the words perfectly.
Because of that song, I am arranging to come to Scotland, the land of my forefathers who moved to New Zealand in the early 1800's where I was born and raised, and do a spiritual pilgrimage in the region of Iona, Mull and Skye.
I run spiritual growth seminars around the world and I'll only be in Scotland for a week for this personal pilgrimage and also to visit near Perth from where my ancestors come, but I am hoping to touch something of the folk music as well as the spirituality of the area. I would love it if you could point me to either of these anywhere between Perth, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Iona . . . places of pilgrimage or places of folk music.
Thanks so much for digging around "Joy of my Heart."

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joy of My Heart (Hugh Roberton)
From: GUEST
Date: 30 May 12 - 11:36 PM

Is there a sheet music version of this anywhere?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joy of My Heart (Hugh Roberton)
From: Jack Campin
Date: 31 May 12 - 05:54 AM

Roberton's Songs of the Isles, like Malcolm wrote ten years ago. Still an easy book to find.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joy of My Heart (Hugh Roberton)
From: GUEST,Jan Hauenstein
Date: 03 Jan 18 - 06:21 AM

On Archie Fisher and Garnet Roger´s live Album 'Off The Map'.

Joy Of My Heart    Hugh Roberton, Music Traditional

Whether I (F)wander east or west,
(Bb)Waking or (Gm)dreaming, (C)thou art (Bb)near (C)me
(F)Joy of my (C)heart, (Bb)Eilean (C)Muileach.

And sing ye (F)o' the Cuillins o' Skye,
Of (Bb)Harris and (Gm)Eigg and (C)fair I(Bb)on(C)a,
(F)Joy of my (C)heart, (Bb)Eilean (C)Muileach.

And whether I (F)wander east or west,
(Bb)Waking or (Gm)dreaming, (C)thou art (Bb)near (C)me
(F)Joy of my (C)heart, (Bb)Eilean (C)Muileach.

Peat and heather,(F) how they call me,
(Bb)Little wee (Gm)bothan (C)by the (Bb)hil(C)lside.
(F)Joy of my (C)heart, (Bb)Eilean (C)Muileach.

And whether I (F)wander east or west,
(Bb)Waking or (Gm)dreaming, (C)thou art (Bb)near (C)me
(F)Joy of my (C)heart, (Bb)Eilean (C)Muileach.

Friendly hearts are (F)waiting to cheer me,
(Bb)Welcoming (Gm)arms are (C)there to (Bb)hold (C)me,
(F)Joy of my (C)heart, (Bb)Eilean (C)Muileach.

And whether I (F)wander east or west,
(Bb)Waking or (Gm)dreaming, (C)thou art (Bb)near (C)me
(F)Joy of my (C)heart, (Bb)Eilean (C)Muileach.

And sing ye (F)o' the Cuillins o' Skye,
Of (Bb)Harris and (Gm)Eigg and (C)fair I(Bb)on(C)a,
(F)Joy of my (C)heart, (Bb)Eilean (C)Muileach.

And whether I (F)wander east or west,
(Bb)Waking or (Gm)dreaming, (C)thou art (Bb)near (C)me
(F)Joy of my (C)heart, (Bb)Eilean (C)Muileach.

Words © Hugh Roberton, All Rights Reserved

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www.janhauenstein.com

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Joy of My Heart (Hugh Roberton)
From: Gallus Moll
Date: 03 Jan 18 - 08:22 PM

Hugh Roberton conducted (and probably/possibly started?)The Orpheus Choir, based in Glasgow. Their singing is gorgeous (tho not 'folk'!), very distinctive - timeless - and they were very well known in the - '40s, '50s? They sang 'Scots Songs', also psalms and hymns and did the annual Messiah concert in the St Andrews Halls in Glasgow (behind the Mitchell Library as I recall?
After the Orpheus disbanded . Hugh Roberton died (sorry I do not have facts, just vague memories from childhood) The Phoenix Choir arose from the ashes -- not sure who organised this? but our music teacher at Hamilton Academy Pete Mooney was the conductor in '60s - and allegedly used the Hamilton Academy Choir as a source of new Phoenix members?! (well, that's what we all thought as teenagers!)
I am sure there are others who can fill in gaps / correct my waffling.