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Subject: A mystery is afoot From: Wincing Devil Date: 11 Mar 02 - 08:38 AM A mystery is afoot! I have changed my sigblock in honor of St. Patrick's Day to include an HTML Irish Flag. (like the one at the end of this message). It's a fully enclosed table in a fully enclosed table, less than 400 bytes. I post a message, check it and it's there. I come back later and it's gone. Hmmm, I suspect some Orangeman conspiricy...
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: Amos Date: 11 Mar 02 - 08:43 AM Orange clones? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Mar 02 - 08:55 AM I seem to recall one of the site volunteers telling me that tables in threads are a problem, and so perhaps it was removed for that reason. (I believe images also would be removed.) Perhaps you will get a PM about it, or perhaps you might ask about it in the Tech Help Forum? ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: MMario Date: 11 Mar 02 - 09:11 AM I hadn't heard anything about tables - other then that they don't always format correctly - but I suppose it is possible that someone thought it was an image (since it looks like one) and zapped the code before realizing it was a table. |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: Wincing Devil Date: 11 Mar 02 - 11:04 AM I got a PM from Joe Offer a while back asking me not to use graphics, because if the other server is down, the thread won't load. The problem with tables is that if they're not done properly, they screw up the display of the thread. This table has all cells and rows closed properly: <table border=0><tr><td bgcolor=black>
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 11 Mar 02 - 11:07 AM Black, White and Orange, that's s novel variant. Maybe I need to do something to reeducate my browser. |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Mar 02 - 11:12 AM If someone gives you a heads-up that tables may not be wanted, does it make sense to make another one and give instructions to others how to make more? ~S~
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Mar 02 - 11:15 AM LA France. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: MMario Date: 11 Mar 02 - 11:20 AM looks like tables are okay |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: Wincing Devil Date: 11 Mar 02 - 11:24 AM You can select, copy and paste fron the bolded section in my post, and basically make any tri-color flag you want. When I'm doing a post with a lot of HTML in it, I write a file on my PC, then display it in a browser to verify before posting IMPORTANT (Working on an American Flag (With asterisks for stars)) |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: Jeri Date: 11 Mar 02 - 12:15 PM Other than the fact I find them as obnoxious as someone shouting for attention in a quiet room, I don't think they'll interfere with thread function. They do interfere with communcication to some extent, because I go out of my way to avoid reading the messages I think are likely to have showy HTML stuff the same way I avoid messages by people who change thread titles so I can't tell what they're replying to. I tend to like (and use) HTML I think is likely to help communication and that which calls attention to itself or ME takes away from what I've said. Just my opinion.
Is Jeri in a really cranky mood today? Yes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: Wincing Devil Date: 11 Mar 02 - 12:44 PM OK, Jeri, is this one better?
(there was to be a smaller version of the HTML Irish flag here, but TPTB have now prohibited ALL <TABLE> tags!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: Bill D Date: 11 Mar 02 - 12:57 PM aww...*sigh*...I kinda like being able to 'express' myself a bit with a little HTML..(granted, I have not tried tables, just fonts & colors)...I even wish it were possible for Mudcat to give everyone 'X' amount of space to host images temporarily (100,000 bytes?)..or maybe tell them they had to choose between that and 3000 archived PMs *grin*. I really miss being able to do an 'img src', but I do understand why.....I will try to always follow the official guidelines, and I hope that we don't have abuse and careless use of HTML that would cause the official rules to be tightened too much. (I DO understand that the JoeClones spend more time than they'd wish fixing simple HTML already) Turned your U off, Bill. :-) --JoeClone |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Mar 02 - 01:21 PM Jeri-- Someone's crankier than I am... That would be ME! Altho I didn't have anything to do with WD's tables... ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: Bill D Date: 11 Mar 02 - 07:22 PM I still see flags..*shrug*..who is making "thou shalt not decisions"? and shouldn't they post the rules clearly?...just so's were all on the same page? (you mean I screwed up my EXAMPLE??? sheeesh!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Mar 02 - 07:40 PM See Help Forum, Bill. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Mar 02 - 07:56 PM Does "Erin Go Bragh!" mean "Ireland Forever!" ? How about a Cuban flag with "Venceremos!" on it... Or a Canadian one with "Take Off, Eh?" or "Beauty, eh?"... - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: Jon Freeman Date: 11 Mar 02 - 08:30 PM The prohibition of certain tags here has been on-going for a while and has been a gradual process. Some, like the script tag which went in my Joe Clone days, I can see as posing risks to a site, some like the img one I guess can slow loading down and some I suppose as Jeri indicated can be annoying although I do think table can be useful... Whatever, the powers that be have to set their own levels here and I would imagine they do wish to allow enough to help in communication, e.g. bold, italics, blockquote, etc. (although many people communicate effectivelly in pure text-only formats...) I also appreciate that mistakes in HTML involve someone else tidying up may be a factor. Overall, I can't help feeling if Mudcat is only allowing a subset of HTML, that should be documented in the FAQ. Jon
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: Bill D Date: 11 Mar 02 - 09:32 PM well, I soon saw my answer..*grin*...ah, well.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: The Pooka Date: 12 Mar 02 - 01:28 AM Very belatedly catching up with this one, here....and only to say to Master McGrath, from manymany hours ago, re his Black, White and Orange: Don't know much about Haitch Tee Emm Ell, but don't touch that browser. It has merely drawn the Guinness, for the Republic. But the boys that made the history for the Orange White and Black Were the boys that drank the Murphy's Stout till they lay upon their back. |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: Steve Parkes Date: 12 Mar 02 - 03:38 AM Hmm ... Stars & Stripes (with real stars) will take a bit of thought, and Stars & Bars would take a lot of thought! Steve |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: Hrothgar Date: 12 Mar 02 - 04:57 AM I surrender. My flag is below.
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: Banjer Date: 12 Mar 02 - 05:27 AM Hmm ... Stars & Stripes (with real stars) will take a bit of thought, and Stars & Bars would take a lot of thought! I hope that Steve is refering to the First National, a field of blue with seven stars and three horizontal bars colored red, white, red and not the battle flag which is actually a St. Andrews Cross!
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: Nigel Parsons Date: 12 Mar 02 - 05:55 AM The Pooka, Just being picky, but if you want to expand HTML by spelling out the letters, the first one is called Aitch. This is not a cockney aberration, there is no aitch at the start of aitch. |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: Madam Gashee Date: 12 Mar 02 - 06:02 AM Set yourselves a REALChallenge
The Welsh Flag! |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: The Pooka Date: 12 Mar 02 - 03:24 PM Nigel - not picky at all, at all. But unless I'm mistaken, it's a regional Irish aberration -- Dublin Cockney??--pronunciation of the letter H, standing alone, as "haitch". E.g., the Haitch-blocks. P.Haitch Pearse, martyr of 1916. Etc. Attempt to be cutesy about that was the only reason (and a lame one it is) I 'expanded' HTML. Now if I'm wrong about the Haitch colloquialism in the first place, well, my face is red. No, orange. Whatever. |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: MMario Date: 12 Mar 02 - 03:27 PM The housekeeper at Unseen University says "haitch" |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: The Pooka Date: 12 Mar 02 - 11:24 PM Oh the 'ousekeeper, is it? Well there it is then. *Isn't* it? OKOK I give up. Wot in th' Divil is Unseen University? & Would jouse guys pleeze quit exposin' me ignorance? How's a feller s'posed ta keep Fakin' it around here? / Ye lave me be, and eventually I expose meself yknow. Lemme rephrase that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: GUEST,cara Date: 13 Mar 02 - 07:56 PM I say haitch - maybe a Yorkshire thing also? |
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Subject: RE: BS: A mystery is afoot From: The Pooka Date: 14 Mar 02 - 12:41 AM 'urrah fer GUEST cara! Yorkshire! Didn't know that. (Don't know much about 'istory...) Maybe this should be a new thread, for our in-house scholars to investigate. The Etymology of Haitch. |