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Lyr Req: The Great Mutinies 1797/8

Gareth 01 Apr 02 - 03:23 PM
MMario 01 Apr 02 - 03:35 PM
Les from Hull 01 Apr 02 - 05:19 PM
Les from Hull 01 Apr 02 - 05:34 PM
nutty 01 Apr 02 - 06:04 PM
Gareth 01 Apr 02 - 06:10 PM
GUEST,Keith A at work 02 Apr 02 - 04:17 AM
GUEST,Keith A 02 Apr 02 - 04:21 AM
Snuffy 02 Apr 02 - 07:47 AM
Keith A of Hertford 02 Apr 02 - 01:17 PM
Gareth 02 Apr 02 - 02:16 PM
EBarnacle 22 Oct 10 - 11:34 AM
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Subject: The Great Mutinies 1797/8
From: Gareth
Date: 01 Apr 02 - 03:23 PM

A previous thread has mentioned the Mutinies in the Royal Navy at Spithead and The Nore, and individual mutinys aboard the "Hermoine",or "Northumberland".

I've found nothing that I can spot in the DT, and I have my doubts as to wether any contempory fo'castle songs would have survived, as even the most liberal captain RN would have treated the singing of such a song a prelude to mutiny.

Do any catters know better - Do any catters who know thier way through Child and the Bodlien (Sic) collections have any better ideas.

Pure historic research you understand.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Great Mutinies 1797/8
From: MMario
Date: 01 Apr 02 - 03:35 PM

Gareth - someone evidently has done a CD "Songs from the Spithead & Nore Mutinies"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Great Mutinies 1797/8
From: Les from Hull
Date: 01 Apr 02 - 05:19 PM

I'm sure that I've seen something, Spithead I think, and in a book about Spithead. I'm not sure that I can still find the book though.


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Subject: Lyr Add: ALL HAIL BROTHER SEAMEN
From: Les from Hull
Date: 01 Apr 02 - 05:34 PM

Got this from

http://www.prof.co.uk/irish/lyrics/all_hail_brother_seamen.htm

All hail brother seamen, that plough on the main,
Likewise to well-wishers of seamen of fame;
May Providence watch over brave British tars
And guide them with care from the dangers of wars.

Good Providence long looked with pity at last
For to see honest Jack so shamefully thrashed
But still held his arm for to let Jack subdue
The pride of those masters whose hearts were not true

At Spithead brave Jack from long silence was roused,
Which waked other brothers who did not refuse
To assist in the plan that good Providence taught
In the hearts of brave seamen had long been forgot.

Old Neptune made haste, to the Nore he did come
To waken his sons, who had slept for so long;
His thundering loud voice made us start with surprise
To hear his sweet words, and he bid us arise.

Your brothers, says he, are all firmly resolved
To banish all tyrants that long did uphold
Their cruel intentions to scourge when they please:
Such a set of base villains you must instantly seize.

So away, tell your brothers, near Yarmouth they lay,
To embark in the cause they will never deny;
Their hearts are all good, they're like lions I say,
I've furnished their minds and they all will obey.

And when they arrive, which I thrust they soon will,
Be steady and cautious, let wrangling lay still,
And love one another - my favour you'll keep -
Success to King George and his glorious fleet.

Not the one that I was looking for, though.

Les


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Great Mutinies 1797/8
From: nutty
Date: 01 Apr 02 - 06:04 PM

There's lots of info from Malcolm Douglas here

Death of Parker


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Great Mutinies 1797/8
From: Gareth
Date: 01 Apr 02 - 06:10 PM

Malcolm scores again !. My immediate thought is that these are Broadsides written after the events, but give a good emphasis on the social thought at the time

Plenty of diggin tho !

Thanks Snuffy.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Great Mutinies 1797/8
From: GUEST,Keith A at work
Date: 02 Apr 02 - 04:17 AM

I have at home a song about "president" Parker, a Nore mutineer who was hanged. The song is his wife's story. she was not allowed on board. He was buried between the tide marks but she reclaims and steals away his body.
Keith


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Great Mutinies 1797/8
From: GUEST,Keith A
Date: 02 Apr 02 - 04:21 AM

Err sorry, my song was the one Nutty posted.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Great Mutinies 1797/8
From: Snuffy
Date: 02 Apr 02 - 07:47 AM

Not me, Gareth. I think it's Nutty you should be thanking.

WassaiL! V


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Great Mutinies 1797/8
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 02 Apr 02 - 01:17 PM

Actually, my version from The Oxford Book of Sea Songs is similar but not identical.It does not have a chorus.I have sung it to The Galway Shawl.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Great Mutinies 1797/8
From: Gareth
Date: 02 Apr 02 - 02:16 PM

Sorry Snuffy and Nutty, I got your vices versa - appologies it was a long weekend.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Great Mutinies 1797/8
From: EBarnacle
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 11:34 AM

I've just been reading Dewey Lambdin's "King's Captain" and saw a quote from "All Hail, Brother Seamen." Just for curiousity, I stuck it into the Mudcat search and this thread, with a more complete version, came up.

By the Bye, the verse melody of "Heart of Oak" works for the song.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Great Mutinies 1797/8
From: Gulliver
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 01:31 PM

There's a book on the mutinies, available in PDF and text formats, etc. on the Internet Archive at
http://www.archive.org/details/navalmutiniesof100gill

Don


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