Influences

Subject: Influences
From: GUEST,Foe
Date: 12 Apr 02 - 12:17 PM

There's a lot of talk about how rock-n-roll or rap music turns teens into thugs and criminals. Also violent TV makes kids violent. I would bet that if you interviewed the prisoners in Texas prisons you'd find that a lot grew up listening to C&W. Did this music turn them to crime? We HAVE just found out, however, that smoking dope leads people into other ugly behavior, like becoming politicians and running for Mayor of New York City.

Subject: RE: Influences
From: kendall
Date: 12 Apr 02 - 01:35 PM

And every criminal that ever lived started out drinking milk.

Subject: RE: Influences
From: catspaw49
Date: 12 Apr 02 - 01:45 PM

So tell me, how did you become the criminal you have become? A thief, con artist, extortionist, and you even killed two guys in a gambling dispute..........Where did it all start to go so wrong?"
"Well I started out playing Bingo in the Catholic church....."
.............Lenny Bruce

Things can lead to other things but so many of these correlations are just so much crap. It takes a lot more.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Influences
From: 53
Date: 12 Apr 02 - 07:41 PM

I don't think that music will make a criminal as fast as TV shows or movies will. There is way to much violence on TV today.

Subject: RE: Influences
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 Apr 02 - 08:00 PM

Some years back, Cleveland Amory wrote an article in TV Guide in which he said that he felt TV, movies, etc., were not violent enough. For example Magnum (PI) gets into a punch-up with the villain, and in the process he gets socked in the mouth and knocked down a flight of stairs. He gets up, wipes a little drip of blood from the corner of his mouth, runs back up the stairs, and creams the villain. All very heroic.

But if the scene right after the tumble down the stairs were a bit more realistic and showed Magnum laying in a hospital bed with one arm in a cast, one leg in traction, and his jaw wired shut, it might not look quite as glorious.

If music causes a person to go out and commit violence, then I'd say that person has a problem. Although, I have to admit that I have heard music from time to time that tended to inspire rather violent feelings toward the musician, but that's another story.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Influences
From: Morticia
Date: 12 Apr 02 - 08:27 PM

I hate to go all psychologist on you but there is NO empirical evidence that supports the theory that tv or films lead to violent behaviour....it has been shown however, that if you have a predisposition toward aggression, usually by example of parental upbringing, it can have some small influence.On the other hand, I know country music often makes me predisposed to do violence *BG*.

Subject: RE: Influences
From: gnu
Date: 12 Apr 02 - 08:31 PM

hehehehe. To who, or what, Morty ?

Subject: RE: Influences
From: Amos
Date: 12 Apr 02 - 08:55 PM

Resorting to violence and crime are acts of desperation, and emerge from huge overloads of oppressive physical and emotional force -- as Spaw says, it takes much more. Information by itself -- even ridiculous information -- doesn't cause psychotic behavior by itself. Let's get real -- music and TV are NOT experience. They can stir up experiences and they can encourage acting out of various kinds but they are no more the cause of violence and crime than doughnuts cause policemen.

A

Subject: RE: Influences
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 12:16 AM

As my honey likes to say: "Ya know...*everyone* who ever (insert behaviour du jour) in the Civil War era is NOW DEAD! It's true!"