BS: How Arafat has changed Israel's politics

Subject: How Arafat has changed Israel's politics
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Apr 02 - 02:06 PM

by Yorak Nazony of Jerusalem

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Click here to read this lengthy non-music article from its original source, The New York Times.
Expression of personal opinion is generally welcome at Mudcat, but not if it's just a cut-and-paste copy of something that's available elsewhere. Post your own opinion, and a link to supporting information. Thanks.
-Joe Offer-

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You can find much of this discussion at http://lucianne.com/. No need to repeat it at Mudcat.

Subject: RE: How Arafat has changed Israel's politics
From: CarolC
Date: 26 Apr 02 - 06:40 PM

The Oslo agreement was never implemented...

We have a skeleton, we didn't complete the house. The Oslo agreement has had a rather short occasion to implement itself, and that was between 1993 and 1996. The Oslo agreement was stopped in 1996 when the government in Israel was changed and Mr. Netanyahu became the Prime Minister. I think that the foundations and the structure of Oslo are still the best ones available. And once we shall have an opportunity, we shall complete the building that may withstand the winds of the outside world, and the skepticism of the people.

--Shimon Peres

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Carol posted about 6 replies with long copy-pasted articles from various publications. Carol, you're welcome to post links to the articles, but not the entire text. Since there was more than one article, I'm not going to take the time to search each one out and post links, but you're welcome to do that if you wish.
Thanks.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: How Arafat has changed Israel's politics
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Apr 02 - 01:32 AM

Camp David Peace Talks

Subject: RE: BS: How Arafat has changed Israel's politics
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Apr 02 - 01:35 AM

Thanks Joe. Sorry about that.

Subject: RE: BS: How Arafat has changed Israel's politics
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Apr 02 - 01:41 AM

I guess I should put an opinion then. My link is about what happened at Camp David and it shows that the reason the peace talks failed was due to a complex set of circumstances and not because of any one person.

The story in the link was written by one of the Clinton administration people who was involved with the talks, and someone who has worked in Palestinian affairs for many years.

My opinion is that I think it's a good article and definitely worth reading although it is a bit long.

But considering that people are dying because the world believes that Arafat doesn't want peace, I think it would be good for the world for people to read it.

Thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: How Arafat has changed Israel's politics
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Apr 02 - 01:42 PM

That's a good article you linked to, Carol. The tragedy is that most of the media talking heads and politicians from whom most of us take our information won't have read it either. The same sound-bites get recycled till they turn into the self-evident.

I don't mean "if you read this article it will change your mind". That's rarely true. But what is true is that people have to take into account this kind of evidence if they are seriously arguing a case. Just ignoring it and parrot fashion restating the last sound-bite by some media pundit is dishonest as well as lazy.

I was glad to see Joe blocking the practice of posting articles directly on the Cat. Aside from anything else, it's a total waste of time. It's virtually impossible to read them when presented as a post. Blocking them isn't a form of censorship, it's a way of directing people to a format where it is far easier to actually read the material.

I think the best thing is to put in the link, and maybe put in a couple of paragraphs of quote or summary to give people a taster.