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BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?

GUEST,Old Dickie C. 04 Jun 02 - 01:52 AM
mousethief 04 Jun 02 - 01:57 AM
allie kiwi 04 Jun 02 - 02:01 AM
michaelr 04 Jun 02 - 02:17 AM
wysiwyg 04 Jun 02 - 02:31 AM
Little Hawk 04 Jun 02 - 08:15 AM
SharonA 04 Jun 02 - 08:34 AM
Devilmaster 04 Jun 02 - 08:38 AM
DMcG 04 Jun 02 - 08:47 AM
mousethief 04 Jun 02 - 09:10 AM
Amos 04 Jun 02 - 09:15 AM
GUEST,JohnB 04 Jun 02 - 09:21 AM
PeteBoom 04 Jun 02 - 10:01 AM
DMcG 04 Jun 02 - 10:10 AM
Little Hawk 04 Jun 02 - 11:51 AM
AliUK 04 Jun 02 - 11:54 AM
catspaw49 04 Jun 02 - 12:08 PM
Bullfrog Jones 04 Jun 02 - 12:26 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Jun 02 - 12:49 PM
DonD 04 Jun 02 - 01:31 PM
GUEST,Shark ate my cookies 04 Jun 02 - 02:00 PM
Don Firth 04 Jun 02 - 02:03 PM
mousethief 04 Jun 02 - 02:09 PM
katlaughing 04 Jun 02 - 02:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 04 Jun 02 - 03:33 PM
MMario 04 Jun 02 - 03:37 PM
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Little Hawk 04 Jun 02 - 03:53 PM
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Steve in Idaho 04 Jun 02 - 03:59 PM
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Subject: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: GUEST,Old Dickie C.
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 01:52 AM

I'd have to say yes, it certainly has.
http://www.jumptheshark.com/


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Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: mousethief
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 01:57 AM

Can you say what "jumped the shark" means, however?

alex


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Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: allie kiwi
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 02:01 AM

Shark is nice fried in batter with accompanying chips. One does not, however, jump the newspaper wrapped package. Unless one is drunk.

Allie
mystified


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Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: michaelr
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 02:17 AM

Is that like "screwed the pooch"?


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Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 02:31 AM

The website says it's about having reached one's peak, so it's all downhill after that.

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ)

Q. What is jumping the shark?

A. It's a moment. A defining moment when you know that your favorite television program has reached its peak. That instant that you know from now on...it's all downhill. Some call it the climax. We call it "Jumping the Shark." From that moment on, the program will simply never be the same.

The term "jump the shark" was coined by my college roommate for 4 years, Sean J. Connolly, in Ann Arbor, Michigan back in 1985. This web site, book, film, and all other material surrounding shark jumping, are hereby dedicated to "the Colonel."

The aforementioned expression refers to the telltale sign of the demise of Happy Days, our favorite example, when Fonzie actually "jumped the shark." The rest is history.

Jumping the shark applies not only to TV, but also music, film, even everyday life. "Did you see her boyfriend? She definitely jumped the shark." You get the idea.

It's just another TROLL.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 08:15 AM

Everything jumps the shark eventually...the Roman Empire, Margaret Thatcher, Cheers, Burl Ives, the New York Yankees, Bert Sempelmeyer, the internal combustion engine, the Age of Sail, Napoleon Bonaparte, and the anonymous GUEST too. Matter of fact, even the shark jumps the shark eventually.

Why sweat it? It's just a natural process. Something better will soon come along for those who like to flame and troll.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: SharonA
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 08:34 AM

"It's just another TROLL". Yeah, methinks the trolls themselves have jumped the shark.


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Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Devilmaster
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 08:38 AM

I always like making shark kabobs.... with some fresh red pepper, mushroom, red onion..... mmmmmmm.

anyone have any good shark recipes?

Steve


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Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: DMcG
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 08:47 AM

What I want to know is whether "past its sell-by date" has jumped the shark? And when will "jumped the shark" be past its sell-by date, come to that?


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Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: mousethief
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 09:10 AM

Well I think that perpetrating a violent bodily crime against a sea creature is a horrible metaphor and just increases the atmosphere of violence and disregard for the safety and integrity of others that is so rampant in today's society. The comment, to be terse, is in bad taste.

Shark, however, can taste really good, as has been pointed out.

Alex


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Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 09:15 AM

Old Dickie certainly lives up to his name, dunee? This may not be a troll but a foraging expedition; it may be that Dickie himself IS the shark. That would explain everything, eh?

A


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Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 09:21 AM

I don't think that this will take off in Scotland, Sheep are much more gentle creatures than Sharks and far more readily available :] JohnB


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Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: PeteBoom
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 10:01 AM

I think we need to change the metaphor - the last thing the 'Cat needs is getting in trouble with PETA for abusing those cute, li'l ol', loveable sharks...

Cheers -

Pete


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Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: DMcG
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 10:10 AM

Hmm - sheared the sheep? Still a bit too violet
Stuffed the pepper? Vegan version, but still a bit aggressive
Filtered the plankton? No, that won't do either ...

Not as easy as it looks, this, is it?


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Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 11:51 AM

Yes, when will the phrase "jumped the shark" jump the shark? And more importantly, does anyone care???

We are, thankfully, hearing the phrase "deer in the headlights" less often lately, I have noticed, so there is hope.

Then there's "I resemble that remark"...used by people who think of themselves as quite witty. I was out with the guys in the radio control boat club on Sunday, sailing my sailboat, and one of them made a mock insulting remark to someone else...within less than 2 heartbeats, four separate people all said "I resemble that remark". Ha ha.

I could have said, "You're actually all starting to resemble each other...", but I let it pass.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: AliUK
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 11:54 AM

Damn!! And I thought this was a bestiality thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 12:08 PM

Well Ali old friend, for you it is..........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Bullfrog Jones
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 12:26 PM

Wasn't shark-jumping something that Led Zeppelin groupies used to get up to? In fact weren't they mudsharks?

BJ


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 12:49 PM

Skirted the turtle?

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: DonD
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 01:31 PM

The actual origin of this expression (which I had never heard before) come like so many from the world of golf.

One day Greg Norman was playing a round in the Canadian Rockies and passed out at the highest point on the course from oxygen deprivation. Understandably as a lowlander Australian/Floridian, he had no high altitude acclimitization.

He lay there as following foursomes played through, leaping over his recumbent form. It was all downhill from there. The rest is linguistic history.

Or perhaps not.


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: GUEST,Shark ate my cookies
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 02:00 PM


Und der Haifisch, der hat Zahne
Und die tragt er im Gesicht
Und Macheath, der hat ein Messer
Doch das Messer sieht man nicht.
    - "Die Dreigroschenoper" (1928), Bertold Brecht (1898-1956)


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Don Firth
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 02:03 PM

Trolling for sharks?


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: mousethief
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 02:09 PM

Translation for the germanically challenged:

And the shark, he has teeth
And he carries them in [his] face
And MacHeath, he has a knife
But the knife, no one sees (literally "one sees not").

which isn't nearly as good as the standard ENglish translation

Oh the shark has pretty teeth, dear
And he keeps them pearly white
Just a jackknife has MacHeath, dear
And he keeps it out of sight.

---------

One might add a variant:

Oh the Mudcat has distractors
And they troll here out of spite
But Max, due to various factors,
Likes to let guests use the site

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 02:17 PM

I think it should be Stuff the Trolls!


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 03:33 PM

Hye, Kat:

I think we're getting pretty darned good about trolls. We just use their thread to kid around and crack jokes. Who ever woulda thunk that Trolls could be so entertaining?

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: MMario
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 03:37 PM

MT - did you mean to pun 'Max factor'? *grin*


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: mousethief
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 03:40 PM

Didn't even notice it, MM! I was just reaching for a rhyme. LOL!

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 03:53 PM

This reminds me...there was a legendary Spinal Tap album called "Shark Sandwich". Unfortunately it was deleted and is now almost impossible to find, but one or two of the tunes have shown up on their greatest hits CDs. For a glimpse of the album jacket, watch the movie.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 03:56 PM

You can see it and read about it by clicking here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 03:56 PM

In a dumb dump
Out there in cyberspace, ya know,
There's a punk kid,
Just a 'hole'
Watching Mudcats
Gettin' stirred up
By his stupid teenage trolls!

Unnamed Guesty,
And the "Conscience"
And the one called
Matriott
All these trolls, sir
WIthout souls,sir
They've been taken out
And shot...


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 03:59 PM

Is there really a band called Spinal Tap? Is this a Shatner thing? And the movie is called Shark Sandwich?? Man I'm with AliUK - this should be more bestiality than trolls -

But then again - trollburgers might be good -

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Genie
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 04:28 PM

What Amos [so glibly] said.

Alex, do you have the whole thing in German (Mac The Knife, that is)? If it's not already posted here, could you post it? I'd love it if you would.


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: mousethief
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 04:38 PM

Die Moritat von Mackie Messer

Und der Haifisch, der hat Zähne
und die trägt er im Gesicht
und Macheath, der hat ein Messer
doch das Messer sieht man nicht.

Ach, es sind des Haifischs Flossen
rot, wenn dieser Blut vergießt.
Mackie Messer trägt 'nen Handschuh
drauf man keine Untat liest.

An 'nem schönen blauen Sonntag
liegt ein toter Mann am Strand
und ein Mensch geht um die Ecke
den man Mackie Messer nennt.

Und Schmul Meier bleibt verschwunden
und so mancher reiche Mann
und sein Geld hat Mackie Messer
dem man nichts beweisen kann.

Jenny Towler ward gefunden
mit 'nem Messer in der Brust
und am Kai geht Mackie Messer
der von allem nichts gewußt.

Und das große Feuer in Soho
sieben Kinder und ein Greis -
in der Menge Mackie Messer, den
man nicht fragt und der nichts weiß.

Und die minderjährige Witwe
deren Namen jeder weiß
wachte auf und war geschändet -
Mackie, welches war dein Preis?
Wachte auf und war geschändet -
Mackie, welches war dein Preis?

(Bertolt Brecht)


Click for thread on Mack the Knife & Pirate Jenny


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 05:47 PM

Norton1 - No, no, the movie is called "This is Spinal Tap"...that's the first movie. There's a 2nd movie too, but I don't recall its title at the moment. Nigel Tufnel is Spinal Tap's virtuoso guitarist and cultural visionary. David St. Hubbins is Spinal Tap's virtuoso lead singer with the deadly blonde locks. Derek Smalls is the legendary base player with the killer sideburns and the cucumber up his spandex tights. THEY ROCK, MAN!!! Watch the movie and see what you're missin'.

Kat - Omigod. The official Spinal Tap website. This is so, like, TOTALLY AWESOME! Thank you, thank you! NIGEL! NIGEL! NIGEL! Man, this is, like, so cool I think I'm, like, hallucinating...decent, man! Lookit them trails... Uhhh...

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 05:54 PM

Let me put it another way...

If William Shatner were to reincarnate as a heavy metal rock band...he would BE Spinal Tap.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 10:44 PM

I did a search on "shark jumping", and find that, due to my extreme narrowness of focus, I had been able to totally miss this well-known phrase.....until now....now I shall have to devise a plan to ignore any further references to it....

never mind me...keep on with what you are doing...


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: khandu
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 10:53 PM

How about "Humped the Manatee"? It would seem to me that after humping a Manatee, everything else is just cheap whiskey!

khandu


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 11:08 PM

On of the most interesting (not to mention nicest0 things about this site is that, while we do tend to chew some of the same old rags until all of our teeth fall out, there are always new songs, new people and new rants, problems or questions to discuss. As long as you don't "jump the shark" on yourself it is unlikely that Mudcat will do so.

Stephen


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: GUEST,John Gray@work
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 11:35 PM

And not to forget the verse from the pen of the great Banjo Paterson, now of doubtful political correctness.

Oh! don't you remember Black Alice, Sam Holt --
Black Alice, so dusky and dark,
The Warrego gin, with a straw through her nose,
And teeth like a Moreton Bay shark.

Gin = aboriginal woman.

JG/FME


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Jun 02 - 12:19 AM

Yes, Jerry, they are cute aren't they? I think that someone who spend time pondering jumping sharks probably has spent too much time screwing the pooch.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Jun 02 - 12:38 AM

poor dawg!


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Jun 02 - 01:39 AM

Ya' know, good as "Spinal Tap" was, it isn't nearly as good as "Waiting for Guffman" which pales in comparison to "Best in Show." I here their next documentary will be on a group of aging folkies..........Oughta' be a real hoot and a helluva' lot better than "Songcatcher."

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Devilmaster
Date: 05 Jun 02 - 02:30 AM

Damn! I'm still waiting for a good shark recipes......

I wasn't kidding. Does anyone have a good shark recipe?

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: allie kiwi
Date: 05 Jun 02 - 03:04 AM

Sorry, Steve. Would locust recipes do? Just remember to avoid the legs, eating the abdomen only. And female ones taste better.

Allie


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jun 02 - 08:18 AM

Well, the Drumcree thread certainly has. It was dead brilliant first time around, but not...well, it just seems juvenile.


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jun 02 - 06:45 PM

What are you trying to do, Spaw...win the "worst spelling on Mudcat" award? Let me improve on your bold attempt...

Ya' no, good as "Spinal Tap" was, it isn't nearley as good as "Weighting for Guffman" witch pails inn comparison too "Best in Show." I here their neckst documentary will bee on a grope of ageing folky's..........Oughta' bee a reel hoot and a helluva' lot better then "Songcatcher."

If ya wanna become a living legend in this culture, mere mediocrity is NOT enough! Take a lesson from William Shatner on that...

Hee! Hee! >:-)

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: khandu
Date: 05 Jun 02 - 10:01 PM

Be easy on Spaw, LH. He needs a vacation. I invited him to Mississippi, but he amazingly did not lunge at the opportunity,and now the invitation has been rescinded.

So, I guess he is feeling rather blue at this lost opportunity!

khandu


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jun 02 - 10:58 PM

Incredible, khandu. Who could resist an invitation to Mississippi? Or Orillia, for that matter?

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Hrothgar
Date: 06 Jun 02 - 12:24 AM

Hey, John, what are you doing, calling poor old Banjo "politically incorrect?"

According to Stewart & Keesing's "Australian Bush Ballads," the poem that starts "Oh! don't you remember Black Alice, Sam Holt" is "A Ballad of Queensland" by G. H. Gibson (pen name "Ironbark"). Iam Mudie, in "Favourite Australian Poems" agrees with this.


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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark?
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 06 Jun 02 - 12:52 AM

Now, let's see, I'll admit that my German isn't exactly Wonderbar, but it seems to me that Bobby Darin had it all wrong--the second verse should really be

Now the shark has
Lovely teeth, dear,
And he flosses
Them each night

Aloha,
Mark


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