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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Jun 02 - 04:16 PM WE have a room for you Gamine at the Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed where Dr. Cajones can help you through your problems. Tiples and Noseflutes are provided as well as gowns, towels, shampoo, and sedation. So just get aboard the Insanevac chopper when it arrives and you'll be getting past the 4th and 5th tier thinking in no time! Spaw, CEO NYCFTTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: CarolC Date: 14 Jun 02 - 03:30 PM Gamine, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I think the problem is more because of where you live than it is a general societal problem.
You live in California, right? I bet if you went to a bar in the Canadian maritimes (and quite likely any number of other places in Canada), you would get an entirely different response than what you've been getting there where you are. I know several men from/in the Canadian maritimes, like our fine friend gnu here, and they seem to prefer women to be much more rounded than what is seen as the ideal in California. I think those values really differ from place to place. Here in the US, I have spent my whole life feeling a little too jiggly. When I was in Canada visiting friends a little over a year ago, I felt too skinny for the first time in my life. And was I suprised. I had never expected I would experience being considered too skinny. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: mousethief Date: 14 Jun 02 - 03:16 PM TOO heavy. Not "TO" but "TOO." Always prufreed. Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: mousethief Date: 14 Jun 02 - 03:14 PM I think we should start a new thread. This one is getting waaaaaay to heavy, so to speak. Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Pete Jennings Date: 14 Jun 02 - 02:34 PM I've been watching this thread with interest (and a whole lot of laughs), so here's a "deep" bit. My wife used to jiggle quite nicely but has been anorexic now for many years, thin as a rake and weak as hell. Whenever I hear anyone (male or female) complaining about their weight, size, shape, whatever, I always say something like - be what you are and enjoy it, if you like yourself everyone else will like you for yourself. Keep smiling and keep on jiggling! Pete
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Gamine Date: 14 Jun 02 - 02:04 PM DW: You stated: "If you don't want personal opinions, don't ask the question" And I just wanted you to know that *I* posted the original question and I *don't* have any problem with any opinions thus far, including yours. ((I also see/saw Carol's point,too, though.)) God, I feel like a politician! :-) Someone earlier suggested that I restate the original question, which still hasn't fully been answered to my satisfaction, mostly cause I did a shitty job asking for what I was *really* after the first time around [go figure a woman having a hard time doing that!] it was this: "Here's the question: Do men (and women for that matter) have a 'jiggle' preference? I mean, I have heard my male friends say (and I think it is stolen from Pulp Fiction? or some movie like that): It is a shame that what looks good to the eyes does not always feel good to the touch." I then went on to clarify further(since most people answered that question pretty well): "I am interested in the WHY's of these discrepencies (we, collectively in society, saying one thing, but most of us really preferring to BE with something very different)...is there some sort of mechanism for our desires and preferences? Is there some sort of evolutionary trend? Is it all just what society throws at us?" Here's the point, people. I think most of us, myself included, go through life on autopilot and we rarely spend time thinking about WHY we think, do, feel, act the ways that we do. *WHY* do most people prefer to be with others that are slightly jiggly in the long run, but would tend to *not* necessarily drool over that same person if they saw them (sight unseen) at a bar or grocery store? Look, I understand that we develop love over time, and get to know the person underneath the jiggles, etc. I get that. What I don't get is if we all get that then how come nothing is changing overall in society on the whole? If 100, or 600, or 1,000 of us began a little society and we all talked about this subject, our little society would probably have very different 'rules' of LOOKING/HAVING than this one does, and if that is true for a small community (like this one even) then how come we don't see a change in our big community? How come I still see every man's (and woman's) eyes follow a super slim attractive woman as she enters a room, whereas the jiggly woman (not FAT, just average jiggly) is promptly ignored? Ditto for when a man walks into a room... *WHY?* And I am NOT saying we shouldn't LOOK, or that it is wrong that we do (I do it all the time). I am just trying to raise the level of consciousness a bithere. Most of the responses to this thread have been GREAT and INFORMATIVE...I just wish we could get a bit deeper and ask the harder question. I want to throw out a bit of healthy doubt. Where are the big strokes, or are the little strokes just too little still. Question Everything!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Bullfrog Jones Date: 14 Jun 02 - 12:59 PM Ah well Carol, but I can dream can't I? BJ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: gnu Date: 14 Jun 02 - 07:12 AM Talk about creep ! The original post addresses, "... I have surmised that most of them prefer (to sleep with, cuddle with, be with) women with a bit of meat on their bones, and by that I mean 'jiggly', even though most of those same male friends prefer (on their arm in public, in magazines, walking by on the street) to LOOK at women who do not jiggle, or jiggle very little." I'll say it again. Anna Kournikova - no. Jennifer Capriotti - yes. Lindsay Davenport - yes. Martina Hingas - yes, oh gosh yes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: CarolC Date: 14 Jun 02 - 12:54 AM I don't have a problem with you DW. The quotes of yours that I used were not the only ones that illustrated what I was trying to say. But I felt that they did illustrate what I wanted to say the most clearly. You're certainly entitled to have your opinions about whom you find yourself attracted to (or don't). And I certainly can't prevent you from posting offensive or hurtful comments to illustrate what you want to say about your opinions. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: GUEST,DW at work Date: 14 Jun 02 - 12:44 AM Sorry, didn't realise I'd upset people in giving my personal opinions which is what the original posting asked for. If you don't want personal opinions, don't ask the question. CarolC, if you have a problem with me, or my opinions which are the only ones you've quoted, why not just up and say it. I'm just a normal guy with maybe few too many pounds on board for some people's taste. I do have a butt, I spend quite a lot of my working life on it, with no chance to change. I don't like making love with skinny women, and I don't like doing it with grossly overweight women. If you look at some websites, there are people out there who would screw the Michelin Man if they could. The question asked for my opinion and I'm sorry if you don't like it. If you have such a big problem with it, maybe my bud Beardyman can help. DW
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: CarolC Date: 13 Jun 02 - 08:14 PM Well, I just found out that the link to my butt is no more. PhotoLoft has closed for business. Sorry Bullfrog. Bummer, eh? ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Jeri Date: 13 Jun 02 - 08:13 PM Carol, yeah, I missed the important distinction. Your example is the only comment I saw as cruel, but it sounded like you were talking about a bunch of comments so I thought you were talking about the "I don't like __________ physical feature(s) because __________" comments as being the cruel ones. My mistake. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: kendall Date: 13 Jun 02 - 08:09 PM I don't care for extremes in either direction. Personality, sense of humor, wittiness and a pleasant speaking voice are so much more important. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: CarolC Date: 13 Jun 02 - 07:09 PM I think you're probably missing an important distinction about what I'm saying Jeri. I don't see any harm in people stating their preferences. And I don't think I have said anything in any of my posts to this thread that would indicate otherwise. I am talking specifically about people saying cruel things about the body types they don't prefer. Here's an example of what I'm talking about...
I'm not into the gross flaps of flesh that some people crave. I like to be able to get my arms around at least 2/3s of a woman, and I don't want to have to be digging around for ages trying to find the target. This sort of thing seems unnecessarily hurtful to me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Jeri Date: 13 Jun 02 - 06:58 PM CarolC said "I wonder how the guys would feel if we talked about their appearances in the same kinds of terms that some of them are using here in this thread. I'm guessing they wouldn't love it." I think this is a BIG reason why some guys are talking about not liking certain body shapes without guilt: guys don't really think it's that big a deal. They don't see why women can get upset because they wouldn't. There are guys who run Mudcat and are named Max who have absolutely no butt whatsoever. When told he had no butt, he batted his eyelashes and smiled. I suspect it doesn't bother him much that some women like butts on men. Hell, guys with beer guts and boobs walk around without shirts, and they're happy. Guys show off scars, they don't try to hide them. You tell a guy his butt crack is showing, and he's likely to either 1) pull up his pants, or 2) say something like "oh," and NOT pull up his pants. (There's probably a 3rd, where they guy drops trou and says something like "Well, there's my entire ass - anything else you're interested in?" Too frightening to think about - expecially if you're in church or at a restaurant when it happens.) Tell me the same thing, and I'll faint from embarrassment. Well, I would have a few years ago, but I'm learning. We're all attracted to different sorts of physical features (often simply because they're attached to a great person), and expecting all of mine appeal to every guy out there and not actually turn some completely off is unrealistic. I'm preparing my self esteem to deal with aging. Everything eventually falls apart, and I'd just as soon not have the inevitable sags, jiggles, wrinkles, etc, be MY problem. I'm getting them, but I don't have to obsess about them. A person may dislilke like skinny butts on prospective love interests. They might dislike red hair, big feet, the way someone walks, their vertical or horizontal size - all sorts of things. Other people will be attracted to those same features. And personally, none of those things matter one bit in someone I'd simply like to get to know. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Kim C Date: 13 Jun 02 - 05:42 PM Speaking of jiggles and blowing and south ends, reminds me of a story. My friend's brother is a high school teacher in Mississippi. One day he was teaching class, and at an appropriate point, asked if there were any questions. One student raised her hand. "Mr. Craddock," she said, "when you poot, do your cheeks clap?" Now, I have never heard this story anywhere else, so I don't think it's an urban myth. But maybe it ought to be! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: CarolC Date: 13 Jun 02 - 03:13 PM Hey Gamine. Congratulations on your pictures winning prizes. Just goes to show we don't have to take getting older lying down! (Or whatever ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: mousethief Date: 13 Jun 02 - 02:41 PM Spaw is ALWAYS blowing something out his south end. Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: MMario Date: 13 Jun 02 - 02:26 PM *sniff,sniff* dang it 'spaw - you made me leak 'round the eyeballs! If you've ever seen those two together - you would know 'spaw ain't blowin anything out his south end on this either - |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Kim C Date: 13 Jun 02 - 02:05 PM Careful there, Spaw, yer showin yer sweet human side again. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Jun 02 - 02:00 PM Ya' know, there have been a lot of chances for jokes in this thread, but I ain't really into it......Maybe I'm just gettin' old or something, but I honestly could give a shit less to be quite truthful. I really dunno' when it was that I quit paying much attention to anything regarding looks, but it was a long time back. Karen has gone from 150 to 230 to 135 to 250 and in all of it, I really don't see her in any of those ways. I still "see" the woman who fascinated me by her conversation (even though she says she's a lousy conversationalist and was nervous), the girl I wanted to marry fom the moment we met. After years of being together, when I think of "Karen" in my mind, I see the eyes and hear the voice of those many nights together in happiness and also those nights in hospitals where all I had to latch onto was the sound of her voice and I could read the situation by the look in those eyes. She's the greatest thing that ever happened to me and if she's wearing whatever it is at whatever weight it is, she still looks fine to me. Sorry to interrupt....carry on. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: mousethief Date: 13 Jun 02 - 01:57 PM Bottom line: Thank God for sexual reproduction! Yeee-haw! Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Bullfrog Jones Date: 13 Jun 02 - 01:42 PM I'm built for comfort, I ain't built for speed -- and the Beloved and I do so enjoy jigglin' the night away! Two points -- I'm really pissed off, 'cos I can't access CarolC's butt. I just get a message telling me to try again in a few minutes (I guess it's just getting too many hits). Secondly I've never come across (oo-er) any of them new-fangled plastic boobs, and I wouldn't want to 'cos they don't jiggle -- and where's the fun in that? All power to you ladies -- you jiggle yours and I'll jiggle mine... BJ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Kim C Date: 13 Jun 02 - 10:00 AM Alex, weasels wiggle but they don't fall down. Gamine, see my previous post about the ice-blue velvet jeans. :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Gamine Date: 13 Jun 02 - 06:54 AM creed = creep |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Gamine Date: 13 Jun 02 - 06:52 AM Thread Creed Alert, sorta CarolC: Already do the nude picture thing...I work with a pretty prominent photographer who was actually one of Ansel Adam's friends before he passed away...A couple of my pictures have won a few prizes in some photo contests -whoo hoo. And it *did* help with the 'older' thing. I don't generally hang in bars either...but I find this particular one good to study in (off all things). There is just enough activity and noise to keep part of my (ADD)brain busy while the other part is focused on strange diseases and physiological mechanistic processess, all of which I will forget after August 24th. To get back to jiggles, though...an interesting observation from my night out: there were young women who definitely didn't jiggle, or if they did it was 'cute' jiggles and then there were much older (than I) women, who DID jiggle, who were out there whooping it up (sometimes with the much younger guys - although it was in a 'oh-how-cute-is-that-grandma-lady-dancing-with-my-boyfriend-let-me-take-a-picture' kind of way), but there was nothing in-between, and in-between jiggle wise too, (like ME age). Am I in some sort of 2nd 13 year old adolescence, only I know a LOT more now? Where are all the in-betweeners hanging out? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: CarolC Date: 13 Jun 02 - 05:54 AM Sure Dave. Get in line ;-)
Gamine, I don't generally hang out in bars (too many desperate people... too depressing) so I can't really comment on what goes on in them. What I did to deal with the getting older issue was to have my picture in the Mudcat nearly nude calendar this year and last year. I'm 46 years old. I figured, what better way to thumb my nose at getting older than to pose naked with just my accordion in a calendar for a folk music website. And I was right. It's been great fun so far. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: GUEST,Gamine Date: 13 Jun 02 - 05:19 AM CarolC: Again, point well taken...I hadn't thought of that enough to make it to actual consciousness, but I am sure it rambled around in my subconciousness for awhile, or else I wouldn't have known it struck such a cord. Never thought of it that way (consciously): that we target the extremes with our sarcasm and our comments (one way or another). I suppose in light of that I should be happy that I am somewhere in the middle...but then, how come it still doesn't feel right? I just got back from the bar down the street (I was sorta celebrating cause it was my last day of work-work) where I used to go with relative obscurity and sing....but I walked in tonight, after a six month absence or so, to find things had CHANGED! The bartendar is now my estranged best male friends brother whom he doesn't talk to anymore and the place was crowded with "youngsters". I looked around and thought, "These people are NO WAY old enough to drink!" and realized 1) I could no longer be obscure and 2) no one was looking at me anymore....(ok, no one besides Cliff, the red-shirted, khaki wearing, white cowboy-hatted, 55 year old (god, or somebody, bless him) man that wanted to talk to me about NPR all night, that is (and I *did* talk!). What an eye opener. What a sobering night...even though the beer flows heavily through my veins (pardon the typos tonight!) Here is what I noticed in my six month absence from the "bar scene" (and not a very trendy one at that - at least it didn't used to be): 1. Women's (ok, little girl's) tops have plunged into DEEP v's. (which I actually like, cause all of us look good in V necks, even those of us with not very big boobs) 2. The low low low rider pants are in in in. I mean, these pants are sexy! I heard one gal say tonight, "These are not sitting pants; they are only standing pants!" Cause if you sit in them, your buttcrack, and/or undies show(but dang, are they sexy!). They come about an inch above your pubes...about four or so inches below your belly button....oh my! 3. Two words: Tank Tops. 4. Okay, four words: Lace pastel tank tops. 5. I have a new perspective on men/women (especially young ones) after having read this thread (see below) So here's the new perspective: The young guys were very caught up in the young girls (as it should be, I guess), but what they REALLY wanted (though sadly, they don't know it yet) was the older gals, the ones that knew what they were doing. And the young gals were very caught up in the young guys (again, as it should be I guess) but what they REALLY wanted was the older guys, the ones that knew what they were doing.... Hmmmm What do you think? Too much beer for me tonight, or do I have something here? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Dave Bryant Date: 13 Jun 02 - 05:05 AM CarolC - If I say that there's nothing wrong with your butt, does that disqualify me from joining the queue (probably a couple of miles long by now) of all the fellows waiting to kiss it ? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: CarolC Date: 13 Jun 02 - 02:35 AM And when people ask why women are so self conscious about their looks, I would just point to comments like this one...
Doing IT with Allie McBeal would be like sleeping with a stick. I'd be afraid she'd snap in half!
Pretty much all of the cruel comments about appearances on this thread are about women. And they are about women who are thin and women who are large. Is it any wonder when we face this kind of focus on our appearance every day of our lives by so many people, that we tend to focus a lot on this issue ourselves? I wonder how the guys would feel if we talked about their appearances in the same kinds of terms that some of them are using here in this thread. I'm guessing they wouldn't love it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: CarolC Date: 13 Jun 02 - 01:55 AM *G* Thanks Gamine. I actually like my butt quite a lot, and those who don't like it can just kiss it!! (Just kidding. Sort of ;-) I find that there is so much beauty in people of all shapes and sizes. What a sad place the world would be if everyone looked the same. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Gamine Date: 13 Jun 02 - 01:14 AM Point taken, CarolC (and I *still* think you have an a-ok butt!) JohnInKansas: You mean they actually let you men see naked women before you wed nowadays?!! (just kidding...I lived there for almost ten years [was married there, too and come to think of it, I really may have been my husband's (ex now) first nudie (is *that* why the marriage didn't last?)] Wow has this thread become a life of its own!!!!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: GUEST,DW at work Date: 13 Jun 02 - 01:14 AM Doing IT with Allie McBeal would be like sleeping with a stick. I'd be afraid she'd snap in half! Give me some bounce any day. DW |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Jun 02 - 01:12 AM Marilyn Monroe wore what today is size 14. I haven't read about anyone complaining about her jiggles or looks! And Mae West was voluptuous, quite attractive but rather pear-shaped by today's standards. Her self-esteem was in great shape. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: CarolC Date: 12 Jun 02 - 09:27 PM Somehow I have the feeling that some of the wily feminine responses in this thread are going to make some poor male forget years of training and once again blurt out the wrong reply to that perenial question "Does this make me look fat?" I imagine that some of my posts to this thread could look this way. And while I really appreciate all of the kind things that people have been saying about my ass and stuff (thanks for the compliments, those of you who have given them), what I was really trying to do is just to ask people if they could state their preferences without cutting anyone down in the process, since people of all body types are reading this thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: JohnInKansas Date: 12 Jun 02 - 08:25 PM If you check out the "how to" books in the photography section of any good book store, you will find specialty "technique" items on a number of categories. You will find "how to Photograph nudes," becaue it's "artistic" and therefor permissible. (Including male nudes has only recently become truly permissible.) You will not find much of anything in these books about how to choose your model by body type - because if you can handle (not intending any pun) the subject properly - it doesn't really matter. You will rarely find much of anything on "cheesecake" photography, possibly, although debatably, the only category where the model is as important as the "rendering." You should find a number of guides to "glamour photography," all of which will make ONE key point - that a good glamour photograph must appeal to women. That's the whole lesson plan in a nutshell. Fashion models are generally "slender" often to the point of anorexia, because the target "audience" is female. They must be "attractive enough" to be "not distracting," and may even be "sexy" to a point - if that's the kind of stuff they're showing; but they must not be sensual in any sense of the word. If you look at old-timey female stars of the legitimate movie trade, the majority of them were, in fact, quite "sensual;" (and often quite jiggly?) so that they played a real tight-rope game of being non-threatening by virtue of "having great character" - or were limited to roles where they suffered great tragedies. Think Doris Day, Kim Novak, Debbie Reynolds in the first category, and maybe Anna Magnani in the other. With the trend in more current movies and TV toward "action" plots where "the girl does everything" (she may have a conscience, but that's not quite the same thing as character) the trend is back to the skinny, non-sensual actress. The extreme example might be Ally McBeal, which would have been nothing but high-dollar If what you're really interested in is what attracts guys, it's basically what's inside - especially if what's inside is visible, believable, pure unbridled, single minded lust for your guy. Feed him enough of aphrodesiac ego and he'll want you - no matter what you look like within reason (but cuddly is nice too). (Visibly lusting for someone else's guy will often make a whole lot of people "not like you," usually - eventually - including the guy.) Of course - your mileage may vary. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Jun 02 - 08:01 PM "In the jiggle jaggle mornin' I'll come followin' you..." - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 Jun 02 - 07:57 PM The cogent point in my discussion of jeans and how they fit is that if I pick up enough pairs I eventually find some that fit nicely. I am very careful to avoid the type that aren't long enough from waist to crotch so they ride up. Nothing like an involuntary wedgie to make your day an uncomfortable one! Okay, since people are linking to online images of themselves, I have one that I'm particularly fond of from my library web pages. Scroll down to the images and I'm on the left. And some friends have posted some old photos, from the late 1970's, in preparation for a reunion of park rangers at Ellis Island. I'm in several, but am most easily identified in the Peter Boyden collection. I'm standing next to Peter, who is wearing three stetsons simultaneously. No more long blonde hair (I like it much better short, it has some body, but that's a different thread. . . ) but I still weigh about the same, perhaps a bit less. It takes a while for this page to load, but the friend who set up the web page will be ecstatic if his counter shows a few more hits! SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Bert Date: 12 Jun 02 - 07:13 PM ...She was round in the counter and bluff in the bow Way hey blow the man down.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: mousethief Date: 12 Jun 02 - 06:51 PM Do weasels wiggle? Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Jeri Date: 12 Jun 02 - 06:42 PM Morti, I didn't buy those jeans. I couldn't afford feeding the ferrets, and I decided if I wanted weasels in my jeans, I wasn't going to buy them off the rack. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Morticia Date: 12 Jun 02 - 06:30 PM Jeri, I thought you'd given up the ferrets?? It'll only get you talked about, you know! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Jeri Date: 12 Jun 02 - 06:03 PM Strangers don't tell strangers they have attractive jiggles because they risk getting slapped or responded to with the phrase "Geez - what a dork!" It's a bit too personal. I HAVE walked up to complete strangers and complimented their clothing, hair, tattoos - that sort of thing, but those are all artistic things they had control over. Friends don't tell friends they have attractive jiggles because of the possibility one or the other might take it a bit too seriously. I've had close male friends for most of my life, and I can't recall any of them ever commenting on my physical attributes seriously. I feel like we're lapsing into a Seinfeld episode... Jeans DO come in different sizes: Juniors: Can't squish my legs into them - forget the rest. Misses: Butt fits great, but the waist cuts off my circulation. Womens: Can find a waist that's big enough, but there's enough room for my butt, a friend's butt, and a couple of ferrets per thigh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Steve in Idaho Date: 12 Jun 02 - 05:04 PM Number 100 is "Simply cause we likes it."
Steve
Da Big Bopper was right |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Kim C Date: 12 Jun 02 - 04:23 PM Personally, I don't judge a person by their jiggles. :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: mousethief Date: 12 Jun 02 - 04:11 PM If you get asked that question, you're already in deep doo-doo. You should be making your lady feel so loved and appreciated that she never starts feeling fat and thus never has to ask. A sensitive, new-age guy
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: GUEST,Les B. Date: 12 Jun 02 - 04:05 PM Somehow I have the feeling that some of the wily feminine responses in this thread are going to make some poor male forget years of training and once again blurt out the wrong reply to that perenial question "Does this make me look fat?" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Jun 02 - 03:21 PM I asked Blind DRunk to comment on this matter, but his answer was so crude that I will not post it... Even Spaw would have been offended. Damn good thing the library is no longer allowing him on their computer! - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Steve in Idaho Date: 12 Jun 02 - 02:40 PM Jiggles literally REEK of womanhood - and all that implies! Sensuality, softness, warmth, comfort, a molding to the body, arghhhhh - Where's me Partner! Dang work anyway!!
"Beauty is much more elusive than only physical structure. It's attitude, movement, mystery, confidence, and using the shape you have. If you do all that, it doesn't matter what your shape is." Steve
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Subject: RE: BS: Womanly Jiggles. What's the verdict? From: Gamine Date: 12 Jun 02 - 01:58 PM Wow, has thread grown and taken some mighty twisty turns! I guess that threads have a mind of their own, huh? :-) CarolC: I think your butt is just BEAUTI-OUS! And I bet the gal behind the butt is fantastic as well. Treewind: I love that exercise. Will try it! Jed: You bring up an interesting point. Why do we keep what we really appreciate to ourselves? I can't think of any woman that I know that wouldn't want to hear a man, a stranger even, show (by way of telling) that her jiggles were just fine with them. Obviously, I am not talking about the creepy guys who do this on a daily basis...but some regular guy coming over and saying, "Hey,I'm not a weirdo or a prevert, I don't want to get in yer pants,I don't want your number or your email, and I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I just thought you should know that you are fantastic looking! Have a great day!" (smile smile). I know that has been done to me, and I have done it to others and it is just...cool feeling. Most of us are told we look good by our spouse's, boy/girlfriends, people who KNOW us. Most of us don't get objectivity anymore. Maybe that is why those silly girls go on Howard Stern and ask to be judged? Anyway, point is, maybe we should all lighten up a bit, take a deep breath and just say it like it is? gnu: 'This thread has grown so as to make an answer to the original question almost impossible without restating it' True. True. But the Anna thing...really? Your guys friends don't think she is sexy? My guys friends have convulsions at the mere mention of her name! Weird. Beauty is much more elusive than all those things, Hesperis. And I agree wholeheartedly. But what about jiggles? Right off the bat, not talking to, or really knowing a person, what about jiggles? How do you react to them - before the talking and the knowing comes into play, and more importantly, why do you think you react the way you do?
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