Help: A Clean Song -- Who wrote it?

Subject: A Clean Song -- Who wrote it?
From: GUEST,Bunny
Date: 07 Jul 02 - 09:16 AM

I am trying to find out whether this song is traditional or not. I have read from some that it is traditional, some that it is written by Oscar Brand and some that it was just recorded by Oscar Brand. Just curious if anyone had any more input into this dilemma.

Subject: RE: Help: A Clean Song -- Who wrote it?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 07 Jul 02 - 09:58 AM

It's got to have been a collective effort, probably of 1930's vintage. I do have one set of lyrics in one of Oscar Brand's salty songbooks. Brand often added verses and folk-processed what he came across, and then offended his singing friends by copyrighting the result.

I don't find a problem with that if the folk-processor has made a significant contribution to the song, or significant re-arrangement of how it's sung, leaving it up to the experts to judge what deserves to be called a "signicant change."

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Help: A Clean Song -- Who wrote it?
From: masato sakurai
Date: 07 Jul 02 - 10:09 AM

Brand's version is in the DT Click here.

~Masato

Subject: RE: Help: A Clean Song -- Who wrote it?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 07 Jul 02 - 01:32 PM

Oscar was-and is--a one-man folk-processor. It's very hard to pinpoint jut where he made changes (or, more usually, additions) but one can be pretty sure he did. BTW, he also holds a copyright on Yankee Doodle.

Subject: RE: Help: A Clean Song -- Who wrote it?
From: kendall
Date: 08 Jul 02 - 12:16 PM

It's also obvious that he has never been to sea either. In other songs, he changed the lyrics from those he didn't understand into land lubber words.

Subject: RE: Help: A Clean Song -- Who wrote it?
From: EBarnacle1
Date: 08 Jul 02 - 02:14 PM

BTW, don't use his name, he's got it copyrotten.