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Subject: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Gareth Date: 18 Jul 02 - 04:02 PM If you havent read Max's latest comments (Matilda iS Dead) Please do so. Personally I think that this is classified as a class one emergancy. At the present time we have £120.00 in the FOM account. When I get the statement in about 10 days time there should be some more available. Could I mention that if you PM Me, or Micca, or John Routledge or E-Mail me at garethwilliams@gareth72.fnet.co.uk details as to how you can donate via the UK banking system will be revealled. I do not publish details of the bank account over the WEB where all and sundry can read them. BUT Max and the Cat needs help. We have the mechanism to help. Now is the time for us Brit's and Erin's sons and Daughters to help Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: DMcG Date: 18 Jul 02 - 06:02 PM I'm with you. We need to keep this and the "Matilda" thread refreshed so everyone is aware of the position. I don't like the way the total number of posts over both threads is one 13 after 4 1/2 hours - some of the BS threads get more than that. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: greg stephens Date: 18 Jul 02 - 06:28 PM dont be too worried about the lack of postins There will be plenty of people thinking about it. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Gareth Date: 18 Jul 02 - 06:49 PM MY POSER PHONE NUMBER IS 07721 585081 MY HOME NUMBER IS 01443 815767 Please do not use my POSER phone between 0900 - 1200 and 1300 - 1700 Hrs (UK time) my Boss don't approve. But outside of those times I'am happy to chat. Gareth E_MAIL "garethwilliams@gareth72.fsnet.co.uk" SNAIL Mail :- Gareth Williams 72 Commercial St., Ystrad Mynach HENGOED Caerphilly CF82 7DY Cheques - In Favour of "The Friends of the Mudcat" and crossed A/C Payee only. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST Date: 18 Jul 02 - 06:52 PM But outside of those times I'am happy to chat OK, I'll try at 4am *grin* |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Gareth Date: 18 Jul 02 - 07:06 PM That's Ok Butty - I'am an insomniac - but I warn Ewe It might be my favourite sheep wot answers the phone !! Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Murray MacLeod Date: 18 Jul 02 - 07:29 PM Gareth, I would just like to echo some of the sentiments expressed on the other thread. There is a huge body of goodwill towards keeping the 'Cat going, but I am pretty sure that I speak for many others who will otherwise remain silent if I say that I would like to know exactly what it is we are trying to achieve here. Are we trying to raise cash to buy a new computer? Fine, let's set a target figure, set a date, and actively canvass contributions. Are we being asked to finance Max's day-to-day operating costs? That's fine too, let's know how much is needed, there are plenty of members here who are perfectly prepared to help out, but, LET US KNOW WHAT IT IS YOU NEED !! Don't just ask for "contributions". Spell it out. Murray |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Clinton Hammond Date: 18 Jul 02 - 07:49 PM If Max wants help, HE can ask for it...
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST Date: 18 Jul 02 - 07:58 PM It's a good and fair point Murray, However, when suggested in the past (see here and here) such an appoach has met with much rancour. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Jul 02 - 09:07 PM ClintHammond--he did ask for help. Go read the "Matilda is Dead" thread. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Clinton Hammond Date: 18 Jul 02 - 10:18 PM I have read the thread, and I have to admit, I'm closer to believing GUEST when it says "You have a (generally) non-technical audience here, who seem happy to believe everything you say, and will rush for their wallets whenever 'poor max' wants them to. I don't think that you're being very fair to them, given that you're not being particularly truthful regarding your technical needs." If Max wants $$, then there are plenty of ways Max could generate $$ for this site... Hinting around his begging does not become him... |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 18 Jul 02 - 11:20 PM I assume contributions from US-Canada can be sent to the Mudcat. Mailing Address please. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Gypsy Date: 18 Jul 02 - 11:39 PM The Mudcat Café PO Box 3006 West Chester, PA 19381 Do we have any idea as to how much we need to raise? Still think that fund drives, like we have with public radio, would be a help. Perhaps on a twice yearly basis? I am the first to admit, they do remind me to donate! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$inthemailintheam............. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Pseudolus Date: 18 Jul 02 - 11:57 PM I am asked on a regular basis to perform "for a good cause". We have a membership that contains a ton of performers. What about a benefit for Mudcat? We could pick several "central" venues, pick a day and get volunteers to organize each venue. It could include both sides of the pond, just the same day! I would DEFINITELY volunteer to help organize one in the Delaware/Philadelphia/West Chester area. It could be a concert or a beef and beer party or whatever. I plan on sending some cash as well but hey, what about using our talents to raise the money? In addition to everything else, it could be a lot of fun!!!! So who's in? Anybody in the Delaware are interested in getting together to just talk about it? Frank |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Escamillo Date: 19 Jul 02 - 02:37 AM I would like to send a contribution since I enjoy this place so much, learn so much and have never been disturbed by advertisement in the site. The amount will be less than desirable. Due to the recent devaluations in Argentina, sending a 50.00 transfer plus 17.00 dollars for Western Union fees, makes a value equivalent to 280.00 A check from a company would be more affordable (200 for 50). Should I issue it to the name of "The Mudcat Café " ? Or to the name of Max ? Which is his complete name ? Un abrazo - Andrés |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 19 Jul 02 - 02:48 AM I value the service this site provides eg lost lyrics, background and historical detail, news and venues, contacts. If max lived in Hertford I would want to buy him a pint every couple of weeks. I therefore subscribe a comparable amount. If the few hundred regular Cat users made similar painless payments the problem would go away |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: artbrooks Date: 19 Jul 02 - 08:22 AM I think Paypal payments can be made to "Max@mudcat.org"...it got cashed that way the last time. I did a paper check to the order of "Mudcat Cafe" this time, because of a comment made elsewhere about perhaps the PC that went doen possibly being the one where his e-mail resides. There are several figures being thrown about on the other thread for a replacement computer, in the $800-$900 (US) range. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST,Delurking Newbie Date: 19 Jul 02 - 09:12 AM Please forgive my ignorance but, I've read the threads about Mudcat needing financial help, but don't understand why there aren't any specifics given by the site owner himself? Why are so many posts soliciting funds to this and the Matilda thread from so many different people? Some are saying send money here--then another person posts saying send money to a different place--then another person says send money through Paypal. Others are talking about auctions. Is the fundraising for this site always this chaotic and disorganized? Doesn't this website have a legitimate means of fundraising? Is all this soliciting of funds to be sent here and there legal? It doesn't seem very above board to me. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: MMario Date: 19 Jul 02 - 09:22 AM There are various options. Funds may be sent to paypal. some people can't do that. Funds may be sent snail-mail to the Mudcat. For those overseas this can be difficult (and expensive) In the UK funds may be sent to Bill Sables or through the Friends of the Mudcat. various routes - same destination. Max is not soliciting - users of the site are drumming up support through voluntary donations.
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Bill D Date: 19 Jul 02 - 09:24 AM newbie...this is an all-volunteer effort, being done in spare time by people with MANY other problems and priorities...it is by it's very nature NOT well-organized and planned. These equipment failures are sort of surprises, though not totally unexpected. The thing is, when Mudcat was started, Max thought that it could simply continue as a sideline of his profitable business...now, with web businesses struggling, he has kept it going 'mostly' on his own, and really hates to ask for money from folks that he had promised it to for FREE. The efforts you see are simply fundraising efforts and discussions trying to see what can be done....I have no doubt you will see more details soon... |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST,Sonja Date: 19 Jul 02 - 10:47 AM More than happy to chip in to keep the Mucat swimming. I've gotten a lot of benefit from Mudcat over the last year--lyrics, chords, MIDIs, background info on songs, equipment advice, etc. Mudcat benefit concerts would be great, and I think we should organize some, but in the immediate situation donations are probably best. How much would be generated if everyone who uses the CafŽ regularly (say, once a month or more) chipped in $10 (US)? Seems that would go a long way toward a financial fix, even if it didnt'completely solve the problem. Folks like me, who visit the Cat more often, could chip in more. SWO |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: EBarnacle1 Date: 19 Jul 02 - 11:55 AM I agree. The check is in the mail. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Mudlark Date: 19 Jul 02 - 12:23 PM Despite being on a very tight budget I do try to support institutions that protect resources I care about. Altho this is mainly ecological, Mudcat is also a vital and incredibly rich resource, so my check is in the mail, as well.
But as a concerned and respectful Mudcatter, I would appreciate knowing an approx. financial goal, and how close we are getting to achieving it. Traditionally, fund raising is enhanced by this technique and knowing, for instance, that the amount still needed is now down to only X dollars, is enough to spur further contributions.
At times like this, when emergency funds are needed, I think it would be helpful to have a thread dedicated specifically to the ways in which people can help: specific global addresses of where to send checks and how they should be made out, so it's not necessary to scroll thru umpteen msgs to get that info, auction information, etc. Maybe titled something like "Send donations HERE." With the stated intent that all feedback will be routed through other threads, so as not to muck this one up with extraneous stuff. Now, hmmmmmmm......what was that US address again? And I just make it out to Mudcat? Max? |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: MMario Date: 19 Jul 02 - 12:32 PM the address for donations can be found by clicking on the "Help support the MudCat" icon on the main forum page. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Gareth Date: 19 Jul 02 - 02:46 PM AARRRRRGH ! Yet another spat To assist I sugest that those who are interested read the webpages (-just put up)which give the background etc. And hopefully some facts and figures on what financial support and objectives are in mind. BLUE CLICKY THING Those who are more interested in Flaming, Trolling and generally Pissing about are invited to ignore them. Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Celtic Soul Date: 19 Jul 02 - 02:53 PM Pseodolus penned: "We could pick several "central" venues, pick a day and get volunteers to organize each venue. It could include both sides of the pond, just the same day! I would DEFINITELY volunteer to help organize one in the Delaware/Philadelphia/West Chester area". I might be able to get some folks from the DC area in on this one...But, we absolutely do not have the time to do any organization on it, this being our major gig season. If you come up with a date and a place, I'll let you know if me and mine can contribute. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST,open mike Date: 19 Jul 02 - 03:12 PM i challenge other catters to send the equivalent of a dollar a month--$12 to the mudcat...also check the auction and offer up items... |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST,Truthtroller Date: 19 Jul 02 - 07:24 PM Gareth. you started this thread when there is clearly chaos going on in the other one. why??? and you've posted the same message on both threads. why?? you're not Welsh are you?? T.T.
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Gareth Date: 19 Jul 02 - 07:34 PM When the Hurricane blows you find calmer water. And it don't take a savant to see the clouds gathering. Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Escamillo Date: 20 Jul 02 - 04:48 AM Yes, the link "Help the Mudcat" leads to good information about Mudcat funds and ways to contribute. I've sent a personal message to Homeless, with my proposal for export of products and raw materials from Argentina, hoping that the high quality and incredible prices wil result in a profitable activity for the Mudcat. I'll contribute my time. Un abrazo - Andrés |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Dave Bryant Date: 20 Jul 02 - 06:58 AM I've set up my regular Direct Debit and also sent an extra emergency payment to FOTM via on-line banking. Essex Girl is filling in her Standing Order form. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Doug Chadwick Date: 20 Jul 02 - 07:22 AM I wouldn't direct anyone to read the "Matilda is Dead" thread if your trying to build up contributions. The attitude displayed by Max in that thread(19-Jul-02 12:18 AM), while being directed at anonymous GUESTS, is hardly encouraging to those who want to be part of the Mudcat "community". Those who are more interested in Flaming, Trolling and generally Pissing about .............. From Max's posting:- The Windows98SE comment was a joke, dumbass. Figured I'd have you looking across the Net for a day or two, wasting your time, and you'd come up with nothing, then holler back at me on the forum. You were spending your idle-hand time trying to debunk me instead of infesting the forum with your tripe. That was victory for me. You waste my time dealing with your dogmatic, circular and simply ridiculous reasoning, and I'll waste yours with gags like that. Anyone worth a shit would have known it was a preposterous concept to begin with. If this is not "pissing about" then what is? A lot of time and effort is wasted complaining about Flaming and Trolling by anonymous GUESTS when those who should know better do exactly the same thing. We lead by example. Doug C |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST Date: 20 Jul 02 - 01:56 PM I think I'll post that lovely message of Max's Doug C quotes above on the Usenet folk groups, with the heading "This Man Needs Your Money" as my contribution to the Mudcat fundraising effort. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Gareth Date: 20 Jul 02 - 02:50 PM Dear Anon Guest "think I'll post that lovely message of Max's Doug C quotes above on the Usenet folk groups, with the heading "This Man Needs Your Money" as my contribution to the Mudcat fundraising effort"Posted under your own name of course !! Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST,Midchuck whose cookie appears to have died Date: 20 Jul 02 - 03:42 PM With respect to those who are upset because we are asked to contribute without being furnished with financial statements, prospectii, business plans, and Gawd knows what other paperwork... Has it ever occurred to you that if Max were a good businessman there wouldn't be a Mudcat? Or at least if there were, it would be a members-only deal, with monthly paid subscriptions? A good businessman wouldn't give away a service like this without any compensation except what people take a notion to send in. So (if I may suggest, in all humility) quitcherbellyakin and send Max what the service is worth to you, or what you can afford, whichever is less. If you think Max is ripping you off, don't send anything. But be quiet about it. If you're using the service without paying anything - and are able to pay something - you're ripping Max off. So how can he be ripping you off? Or am I missing something? Peter. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Amos Date: 20 Jul 02 - 03:46 PM Peter: No, you're not the one who is missing something. A |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Clinton Hammond Date: 20 Jul 02 - 04:15 PM "it would be a members-only deal, with monthly paid subscriptions" Ya, but then there'd be NO body here... |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Mickey191 Date: 20 Jul 02 - 05:32 PM Why can't we just get along? Mine will be mailed tomorrow-Thanks Max. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Charley Noble Date: 20 Jul 02 - 05:43 PM My $50 is on its way via Pay/Pal. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Genie Date: 20 Jul 02 - 05:51 PM What Midchuck said. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: greg stephens Date: 20 Jul 02 - 06:46 PM I've met some whingeing sods in my time but the GUEST on this thread could do with paintig purple and sticking up on that vacant plinth in Trafalgar Square. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Gareth Date: 20 Jul 02 - 07:07 PM UK & Eire Catters - please note ! I've just received an E-Mail from Bill Sables, I can confirm that he is able, and happy, to do the neccessary currency swaps with Dick G'.
Thus UK & Eire Catters please note. Those of you who may wish to make "One Off" donations to the Cat may Snail Mail thier Cheques and Postal Orders to Bill At :- Alternatively there exists the "Friends of Mudcat", a bank account designed to 'bulk up' standing orders etc.
Details will be found CLICK 'ERE
Catters wanting the full detaails and Bankers Standing Order forms (Sorry UK, IOM, CI & Eire only) may PM Myself (Gareth), Micca, or John Routledge, or E-Mail me on garethwilliams@gareth72.fsnet.co.uk Anonaminity (so far as the Uk banking laws are concerned) will be respected. An impecable, repeat impecable, MUDCAT source states that Max requires about US$500.00 for a new adequet server. And bluntly this is well within the petty cash capabilities of UK Catters. So how about it folks ??? BTW Anon Guests - If the Mudcat folds where will you be able to vent your spleen - No other reputable WEBSITE will give you room !! Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST Date: 20 Jul 02 - 07:12 PM Yawn, Gareth I have contributed to the mudcat fund in the past. My problem is the fact that a contribution to mudcat isn't solely that. So long as you realise that your financial contributions are being used to support sites such as www.cognivescience.org as well as Mudcat, then fine. Nothing against that site, I don't however like the fact that Max has never bothered to mention that that site is paid for by the generosity of catters
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Susanne (skw) Date: 20 Jul 02 - 07:17 PM The Mudcat Café is about the only site I'd be prepared to pay a monthly subscription for - and I bet I'm not alone. My contribution will be along before long. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Gareth Date: 20 Jul 02 - 07:18 PM 1/. I'll get this clicky correct if I die in the attempt. 2/. Anon Guest - suggest you read Max's posts on the sunject, and check the dates, perhaps your views may be a little altered. Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST Date: 20 Jul 02 - 07:56 PM Please eluciate, Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST Date: 20 Jul 02 - 07:58 PM eluciate = elucidate my fingers aren't as fast as they used to be |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Gareth Date: 21 Jul 02 - 06:28 AM Simple, when Max was flush, and WEBAUTHORING was in demand Max was funding the Cafe on the back of his business. Now times is hard ..... If you follow Anon Guest's Blue Click, and check the Copyright and publishing dates ??? Well I suggest that some form of appologie would be in order. Or to use that very old clerihew :_
" When we did bang, Monsewer Confland< Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: kendall Date: 21 Jul 02 - 07:48 AM Certain people have been so rude to Max over the past few months, I'll tell you what, if I were Max, I'd be a lot rougher on them than he has been. C.H. if this becomes a "members only" site, there WILL be plenty of us here, and, I, for one, would relish the the calm and friendliness without the whiners and paranoid tightwads. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: gnu Date: 21 Jul 02 - 03:13 PM Please.... let us centralize this discussion by posting to Click here |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Clinton Hammond Date: 21 Jul 02 - 03:57 PM Kendal... There was supposed to be a smiley after that last comment of mine... I KNOW there'd be people here... And I very well might be one of 'em... Donno that I'd pay for it though...
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: DMcG Date: 21 Jul 02 - 04:10 PM A comment I've made before elsewhere, but worth repeating I think. In the UK it costs something like £4-5 to see a film at the cinema (say 2 hrs). I went the opera earlier this year and it cost me £45 for 2.5 hours. Ballet seems to be a little cheaper for reasons I don't understand - about £35 for 2 hours. Even a cheap paperback cost a few pounds for maybe an hours reading. I reckon I use Mudcat on average about 0.5 hours a day, so paying Mudcat a few pounds a month seems pretty good value to me. (I know most of the value comes from other contributers rather than Max directly, but I pay the telephone company for conversation with other people as well without complaining too much!)
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - we need to help Max From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 21 Jul 02 - 05:21 PM Midchuck summed it up pretty well:
"If you think Max is ripping you off, don't send anything. But be quiet about it."
And "if Max were a good businessman there wouldn't be a Mudcat"
Maybe that's what annoys the gripers - there are people who see being businesslike as being a kind of religious and patriotic duty. Yuk!
Note the way I've rewritten the subject line on ths post to one that I think is more the way it is and should be.
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Gareth Date: 21 Jul 02 - 06:18 PM Hhhmmm ! Yup Kevin, as the SOS (Son of a Sheep) wot started this thread your title change has my complete support. I shall remember your rearangement. Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST Date: 21 Jul 02 - 06:34 PM McGrath, I can't speak for other guests, but this is how I see it. Max has often said how wonderful this site is, and praised himself regarding his own technical expertise. He has also continually repeated his desire to make this 'the best site on the web' I realise that you're not a technically minded person, so when I say that the way this site is implemented is technically wanting, you will probably choose not to believe me, but believe me you should. The reason that the searches don't work properly, the frequent crashes etc, are due (in a large part) to poor design. Very often, people have offered to help improve things. Max has chosen to ignore them. He has also made a lot of promises that he never comes through with. Not fulfilling promises is a common human trait, and with that I have no problem. Admitting the fact and showing a degree of honesty would however be nice. I also think that those who wish to know where their money goes, have a point. In response, Max simply says "the more you give, the better it will be" I don't think that questioning such a vague comment should be considered as 'anti mudcat' The fact is that Max runs a pretty good site here. There are problems which could be solved if he let others help and was a little more honest and open. He chooses to be close minded regarding technology and secretive regarding money, hence some people moan. I'm sure you can understand that? |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 21 Jul 02 - 07:19 PM Maybe the grossly insulting and offensive posts signed simply GUEST are from a different person from the obsessive and arrogant ones, and the occasional thoughtful and sensible ones.
(I do skim them sometimes, which is why I make that distinction. But generally I try to scroll past them. I don't remember who it was said, when asked why people took an instant dislike to some well known person "It saves time".)
Anyone who chooses to post simply as GUEST is choosing in practice to identify themselves with all the other posts that appear under that uninformative title. (And for anyone with a lot of time to waste who wants convincing that some of them are pretty rank, just click on GUEST at the top of a post, and wait till the list of naked GUEST posts appears.)
Really the only sensible thing to do is to ignore them. After all, if they have anything of any signifance to say, they can always come in as GUEST,(pseudonym), and post it again. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST Date: 21 Jul 02 - 07:36 PM I could easily invent a GUEST name, and without much more difficulty, become a member. My reason for not doing so is that my comments should be allowed to be judged as they are. I try to write intelligenty. The intelligence of my comments should be what matters, not any invented name under which they are presented |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: artbrooks Date: 21 Jul 02 - 07:40 PM ANON.GUEST, the word is spelled "intelligently". Enough said. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST Date: 21 Jul 02 - 07:44 PM That last GUEST wasn't me. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: John Routledge Date: 21 Jul 02 - 07:46 PM Guest of 7.36pm. On the assumption that motive and possible hidden agenda are irrelevant I agree with your post. It is however impossible to make any informed assessment of these two factors in "GUEST" postings hence the impossibility of having an intelligent debate. Sorry for thread drift. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST Date: 21 Jul 02 - 07:50 PM Anyone who bases their arguements on the fact that someone missed a single keyboard stroke, might be described in many ways... 'Tosser' would seem fair. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 21 Jul 02 - 08:49 PM I dont know why people are arguing again, it is simple=if you like mudcat, and you can afford it, send a few pounds 9or dollars or whatever your money is called), if you dont loke mudcat then keep wuiet.john |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Dave Bryant Date: 22 Jul 02 - 04:48 AM This thread was originally a rallying call for Friends of the Mudcat. Therefore would any GUESTs or whingeing folk who are not friendly to the Mudcat/Max and do not want to support F.O.T.M. please post to the original Matilda thread and stop clogging this one up. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: DMcG Date: 30 Jul 02 - 07:50 AM ... And after the excitement, where are we now? Has enough been pledged and given to buy a new server yet? If so, has the money reached the US yet? Is Max at this minute looking at bright shiny boxes? Are we, in short, at the point where we can stop thinking about raising a lot of capital in a few days and ready to move onto thinking about smaller, long term funding? Or has everything just gone quiet for a few days? :-)
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: GUEST Date: 30 Jul 02 - 11:22 PM DMcG, Same old, same old. Max posts a warning, people throw money at him, Max doesn't acknowledge receipt of individual donations, much less say thank you for them, and the site performance continues to deteriorate. A couple months later, another Dire Mudcat Warning gets posted by Max, and the cycle begins again. Like Bono sez, "nothing changes on New Years Day". |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: Dave Bryant Date: 31 Jul 02 - 04:50 AM Gareth - how are things going ? - have we managed to raise any significant ammount to transfer ? PM or e-mail if you don't want to quote figures openly. |
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Subject: RE: Friends of Mudcat - Max needs Help From: pavane Date: 31 Jul 02 - 10:07 AM To repeat my previous offer: The first 5 registrations of HARMONY (from catters) will be donated to Mudcat. As I have so far received just 1, there are still 4 people who could receive free software in exchange for their donation. Description HARMONY can import and add chords to abc and MIDI tunes, and export as MIDI. It has many other features such as generation of random folk-style tunes. It has a (primitive) score display and print, reel to hornpipe converter, tune to round converter, can add thirds, fifths and so on. Even plays a tune backwards! See my site www.greenhedges.com to download the shareware version. Registration is then by email.
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