BS: Buttie / Butty & Sandwich: Any difference?

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: Snuffy
Date: 08 Sep 02 - 07:35 PM

Yes, Kevin, people do have butties without butter.

With bread I always have the bacon/jam/cold meat/paste etc straight on the bread.

But with toast, butter (or to be more accurate, the low-fat olive oil-based spread that my wife insists on buying) is an alternative to any of the above - instead of, not as well as.

WassaiL! V

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Sep 02 - 07:53 PM

I suppose that if you exclude hamburgers and hot dogs (neither served with butter on the bun), the favorite sandwich in the US is the PB&J (peanut butter and jelly, usually made with jam or preserves and not jelly - and NO butter).

A BLT is bacon, lettuce, tomato, and mayonnaise, usually on toast (with what you Brits call "streaky Danish bacon").

Grilled cheese sandwiches are usually spread with butter on the outside of the sandwich, and cooked in a frying pan until the bread is toasted and the cheese melted.

On other US sandwiches, butter is optional - it depends on how your mom made them when you were a kid.

We have hoagies or submarine sandwiches that are made on long pieces of French bread with lots of filling - but otherwise, I don't think we have alternate words of "sandwich."

When I ordered a pork sarnie in York last month, I wasn't sure what I was going to get. Good, though.... [evil grin]

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 09 Sep 02 - 05:45 AM

I recall an American song from circa 1960 with a chorus that went "Every night he brings me Frankfurter sandwiches". Even after it was explained that this meant hot dogs, it still didn't make much sense ...

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: Snuffy
Date: 09 Sep 02 - 06:55 PM

I remember that one Steve - Dorothy Provine wasn't it? From the TV series The Roaring 20s?

Instead of us billing and cooing
All he keeps doing is chewing
Frankfurter sandwiches
Frankfurter sandwiches
All night long
WassaiL! V

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie / Butty & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: Trevor
Date: 10 Sep 02 - 04:50 AM

In a fairly cataclysmic life, one of the things that has always caused me considerable confusion is whether a round is one slice or two, and this thread has done nothing to enlighten me. So I usually end up with a sammo that is either half or twice the size I was expecting.

LtS, my Nan used to do that as well. Do you remember Ryan and Ronnie used to have a character who would butter and slice the loaf whilst holding it under her arm - '..and don't call Will on your father!...'

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie / Butty & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: GUEST,Storyteller
Date: 10 Sep 02 - 05:06 AM

One of Liverpool's culinary delights is the "sugar buttie", a treat for young Scousers consisting of white sugar sprinkled generously between two slices of buttered bread. Dentists on Merseyside have very strong opinions about this!

Another local variant is the "treacle buttie" which originated in the docks where the dockers would spread ther bread with the raw treacle which leaked from Tate & Lyle's cargoes.

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie / Butty & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 10 Sep 02 - 05:24 AM

"Sammo"--Trevor, that's what we used to call 'em in Walsall before we found out John Lennon said "Sarnies"!

Yes, Snuffy, that's the one: Every night he brings me Frankfurter sandwiches, Frankfurter sandwiches. Every night I murmur "Thanks for the sandwiches, thanks for the sandwiches" Anyone beat a six-syllable rhyme?

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie / Butty & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: Sonnet
Date: 10 Sep 02 - 07:08 PM

Anyone for a treacle shorve?

JMcS

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie / Butty & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: rich-joy
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 06:34 AM

Guest Storyteller, my Scouser says don't forget "Conny-Onny Butties"!!!

Cheers! R-J

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie / Butty & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 07:01 AM

"Conny-Onny Butties"!!! = condensed milk sandwiches, a local scouse delicacy

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie / Butty & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: GUEST,IanN
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 07:38 AM

Why do menus etc. advertise "BLT (Bacon, lettuce & tomato)"? What's the point of abbreviating something if you're then going to put it in full in brackets next to the abbreviation? Is this an American thing? I notice Joe refers to a PB&J above! Are we going to see C&P (Cheese & Pickle) or E&C (Egg & Cress) on our menus soon? !!!

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie / Butty & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 07:44 AM

s&m? sausage & mash.

pc? peaches & cream.

f'n c? fish 'n chips.hmmm..don't like the sound of this one.

any more?

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie / Butty & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: Orac
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 12:11 PM

Rolls, baps, cobs etc are different shapes of bread they are not names that are location specific. I can never understand the confusion here ... you only have to look at the shape to see what to call them. Rolls are sausage shaped. Baps are large circular squashed things and cobs are what baps would have looked like if someone hadn't squashed them ... whats the problem?? A "round" is slang for one slice of bread not a sandwhich. If a sandwich is made from "one round" if would be folded or cut into two. A butty is just slang for a sandwich there is no difference.... whether it be buttered or not... or even "margarined" if there is such a word.

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie / Butty & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 12:23 PM

Mr Red, if I saw "S&M" in M&S I'd know not to worry about it, but anywhere else...!

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie / Butty & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: C-flat
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 12:23 PM

On Teesside we have "fadges"(pronounced fad-jees). Small heavy bread buns.
And thank you to the person who mentioned "Conny-Onny Butties"...........My! that takes me back............I can even taste them!
C-flat

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie / Butty & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 07:58 PM

steve p, s&m was frm mr h not not mr r.

in south wales, a 'butty' can mean chum/pal/fiend/mate/amigo/comrade/buddy/oppo/crony etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie / Butty & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 08:01 PM

Oh, by the way, I was introduced to another kind of sandwich in the UK, and I really like it -Marmite and cheese. Anybody know where I can get Marmite or Vegemite in California?
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: Buttie / Butty & Sandwich: Any difference?
From: rich-joy
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 08:21 PM

Joe, try Vegemite and avocado too - or MISO instead of the Vegemite, if you're feeling more health-conscious!!

Then there's Vegemite and creamed honey ... and Vegemite on Crumpets! (and I didn't mean on your "bit of Crumpet" - but then again, whatever takes your fancy!!!)

Cheers! R-J
from Down Under ...