Lyr Req: bully in the alley

Subject: Lyr Req: bully in the ally
From: GUEST,Hobie
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 12:14 PM

I'm lookin for more verses fo this song than are on the DT and help would be appreciated.

Hobie

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the ally
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 12:18 PM

Did you find all the verses that have been added in the Forum? Use the white Lyrics and Knowldege search box at top right.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the ally
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 12:34 PM

Put bully in filter and set for 180 days. Five threads come up on this frequently asked question. 31335 is the longest. Bully
It pays to learn the method used by Sorcha plus this one. They may extract some 70 per centum of the information in Mudcat. Only serendipidy can find it all because of mis-spellings and misleading thread titles.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the ally
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 12:37 PM

More words in 48976. More Bully

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the ally
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 03:50 PM

Right. Thread 31335, for which I gave a clickie, is on the Bully in the Alley (Sally....) song, with several versions including Hugill's, and comments. The other thread is the "Town" song.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the ally
From: Schantieman
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 04:55 PM

So what's Shinbone Al then?

Tom Lewis reckons there's a town in Alabama with this name but I can't find it on the map. Pretty unlikely to put the postal address in a song anyway!

Any mudcatters live near there?

Steve

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the ally
From: vectis
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 05:23 PM

I thought Shinbone Alley was off the main pub'n club road in the docks of Kingston Jamaica. Reknowned as a place where sailors got robbed when drunk ashore.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the ally
From: Charley Noble
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 05:34 PM

"Shinbone Al" is one of those generic Sailortown streets which crops up all over the world, including Wiscasset, Maine. It was also a common phrase in Minstrel songs in the late 19th century.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the alley
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 05:42 PM

More specifically, Shinbone Alley (like Sugar Hill and Tiger Bay) referred to the local Tenderloin district. Not restricted to sailors...."You ought to see my blue-eyed Sally
            Lives way down in Shinbone Alley.."
                                     (Bill Monroe, "Dance All Night")

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the alley
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 05:48 PM

This has been gone over before. Shinbone Alleys in every port town. See 43912 Shinbone
They are mostly gone, unfortunate victims of gentrification.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the alley
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 05:55 PM

Bill Monroe or Bob Wills?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the alley
From: breezy
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 06:18 PM

I posted one once where is it

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the alley
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 06:21 PM

Bill Monroe and His Bluegrass Boys. AND Bob Wills (I believe with the Lightcrust Doughboys)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the alley
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 07:42 PM

Mistake, sorry! Delete the Bob Wills. Misread a listing.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the alley
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 15 Oct 02 - 11:57 PM

Bob Wills sings "Shinbone Alley" in "Stay All night"

-Richie

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the alley
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 16 Oct 02 - 12:50 AM

I guess I was tired when I made the last post. The Wills song is "Dance All Night." I've sung the song before, just didn't remember the name. It's sort of the jazz version of "Cripple Creek." Who knows where Wills borrowed that line- "Lives way down on Shinbone Alley."

"Stay All Night" is a fiddle tune by Tommy Jarrell, Fred Cockerham.

-Richie

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the alley
From: Sorcha
Date: 16 Oct 02 - 01:18 AM

The recording I have by Bob Wills is "Stay All Night". I'll look and see exactly what it is tomorrow, but it is the Counry Collection by the Smithsonian.From memory:

Stay all night, stay a little longer,
Dance all night, dance a little longer
Pull off your coat, throw it in the corner,
Don't see why you don't stay a little longer.

But yes, Shinbone Alley is in there.......

Lives way down on Shinbone Alley,
The number on the gate is the number on the door,
Next house over is the grocery store.

Something like that, anyway.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the alley
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 16 Oct 02 - 07:59 AM

Sorcha-

Did Wills write "Stay All Night"? I just checked and I have a version of it collected by Lomax in 1944. It also has the "Shinbone Alley" lyrics.

-Richie

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the alley
From: GUEST,Hobie
Date: 16 Oct 02 - 10:35 AM

thanks for th help folks

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: bully in the alley
From: Charley Noble
Date: 16 Oct 02 - 11:38 AM

Likely the phrase "Lives way down on Shinbone Alley" goes back to 19th century minstrel show singing but I can't find my citation now.

Charley Noble