John from Hull/the Baptist

Subject: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: greg stephens
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 08:31 PM

A recent thread "What has GOD ever done for us" has drawn attention to the problem that the successive revelations from God from the likes of Buddha, Jesus, Muhammed, asorted Prophets, etc etc have been confused, amiguous and contradictory. And you never know where the next one is going to come from. However, it must be becoming evident to most Mudcatters that we have been chosen to be the first recipients of the LATEST VERSION. It is a fantastic honour, and I acknowlege my amazing luck to being in on the beginning of it.
    But I am not clear, and I ask for enlightenment. Is John from Hull THE ONE? Or is he perhaps, as his name might suggest, more of a John the Baptist figure, who famously said "There shall come after me one mightier than I"?? Is it possible that in fact some GUEST represents the rough beast at this moment slouching towards Max's kitchen table?

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: michaelr
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 09:06 PM

Some rough beast ought to slouch towards Hull and go Godzilla on them!

;-) Michael

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: michaelr
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 09:08 PM

...oh, and greg, you forgot the BS designation!
People are going to get upset if yet another Hull thread creeps through their filters...

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: greg stephens
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 09:12 PM

This is hardly a BS Hull thread.. This is the business, for everyone.

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 09:18 PM

Or you could put the glass down, and back slowly away from the tv screen, until the hallucinations stop.

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: michaelr
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 09:19 PM

Oh, all right then. I've studied JfH's posts, and I don't think he's The One. He may well be a bearer of portents, though, kinda like the Jay (and Silent Bob) character in "Dogma".

Have you seen that? It's a great film (sorry, I'm digressing again), with George Carlin as The Bishop and Alanis Morrisette as God.

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 09:25 PM

heloo, yhere is only one John from Hull 9Me), anyone else is an imposter.PS my autograph is available through the mudcat auction, just click on auction at the top of the page.john

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: greg stephens
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 09:26 PM

You may have studied his posts, but have you understood them? Remember "as through a glass darkly". People will come who will interpret unto you, and woe betide ye if you don't agree.

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: michaelr
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 09:39 PM

Well, that's what I mean, greg... we are not ready yet to understand9 -- until the time is right.

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Amos
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 09:46 PM

Sometimes it is very worthwhile to recognize that the reason something doesn't make sense is because it is inherently incomprehensible.

Pretending otherwise is a sure path toward self-abasement.

A

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: greg stephens
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 09:54 PM

Thank you, prophet Amos. Incomprehensible but faintly uplifting statements are part of the buildup to any serious cult.

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: michaelr
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 10:01 PM

But Amos -- how do you know whether something is inherently incomprehensible (is anything?) or whether you're just too stoopid?

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Pied Piper
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 06:37 AM

A bit of advice 9John; keep away from any girls called Salome.
PP

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Oaklet
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 06:45 AM

And a word of caution to any who feel moved to wash his feet. They are a certified bio-hazard.

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 07:40 PM

I do believe that greg may have nailed it here and that JfH may indeed be the harbinger of hitherto undreamt-of revelations.

The only slight worry I have is that in the course of our sporadic PM's JfH has never yet succeeded in tipping me a winner. I would have thought that anyone with the remotest inside information regarding the second coming might at least have some foresight regarding which horse might win the 3.30 at Kempton Park.

Muray

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 08:53 PM

Thats bullshit Murray! Check your last PM from me, I said Arsenal would win 1.0 and they did, i also tipped Rock of Gibraltar last tim it won, though that was on the main forun , not via PM.

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 08:59 PM

PS, you could have got 7/1 on that! ;-)

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Neighmond
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 09:55 PM

If all the world but a stage, the people merely players
Is there more? Something bigger? an answer to our prayers?

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: smallpiper
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 06:38 AM

Yes, oh yes, but perhaps not in the way you want them answered!

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 11:08 AM

But Amos I don't have an abasement, don't even have an itsy bitsy cellar. At my age I'm not going to start digging one either, bad for the back. Let him that cometh come, and get it over with, then we can all get back to reading BS threads.
Failte.....Giok

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: GUEST,Salome
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 11:45 AM

jOhn, I have heard so much about you... are you dancin'?

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: GUEST,herodias
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 11:54 AM

Salome, i've told you before about unsuitable friends. Look at his hair, and he hasn't washed for a week.

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Noreen
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 12:00 PM

Musical thread!

John the Baptist / John Martyn

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 12:20 PM

The neat thing about all those "successive revelations from God" is what each one shows us about the state of mind of the people at the time! It was usually confused, ambiguous, and contradictory. :-)

Now the state of mind of the Children of Israel around the time of Moses was downright vicious. I would not have wanted to see them coming over the horizon, I can tell you!

Buddha was much more appealing, but a tad ascetic.

Krishna is rather likeable and very poetic.

Taoism is very clear and straightforward. I give Taosim 10 out of 10.

Jesus can be a bit mysterious, but I'd buy a used car from him anytime.

Mohammed seems to have been quite a good organizer.

John from Hull is incoherent, daft, and almost incomprehensible much of the time. He consorts with people of low repute. He lives in a hovel. His taste in shoes is lamentable. He offends without knowing.

Pick your prophet according to your own best judgement.

- LH

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: greg stephens
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 12:24 PM

Well you laid that out very neatly LH. Judging from your excellent thumbnail sketches, I think I'll pick John from Hull.

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 01:11 PM

Sorry Noreen but I think John Martyn is rubbish. I loathe his mannered and un-natural singing style.
Giok

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 01:51 PM

I knew there had to be someone in there for you, greg! :-)

- LH

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 07:54 PM

One of his disciples, post-modern pagan Eric the Viking, witnessed John From HUll baptising himself in the river at Llanfair. Again, the fruity language that greeted the cool, cleansing waters may sound, err, modern to our ears, but time will no doubt reveal that Father Jack was closest to the Ultimate Being. The swearing of oaths, with oaths, by oafs.

I wonder if Andy Watson has analysed the hidden meanings in the apocryphal pronouncement "Who the fuck are you, then?" that represented the totality of his audience with jFH

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Mr Happy
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 08:01 PM

wuff! wuff! who let the the gods out!wuff! wuff!

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 08:05 PM

...or maybe the message is for us all to look within our own selves to find the new spiritual paradigm. Anyway, that's what I get from my experience of people with a lot of humanity. (And John certainly has a lot of humanity).

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Noreen
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 08:11 PM

greg, have you met jOhn?

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 08:19 PM

Skipjacj-He 9Mr Watson) was giving me a funny look, so i asked him why, you misquoute me, what i atually said was "what the fuck are you lokking at?".john

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 08:23 PM

9he was staring at me)

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: greg stephens
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 03:25 AM

No Noreen I have never met the master. I am a humble student of his writings. I hope for an audience one day.

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 03:28 AM

sined fotographs are available, click on auction at top of page.

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Pied Piper
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 08:26 AM

Give me a profit that jiggles any time.
Little Hawk, get off your neovedanatist, new age hippyshit, pyramid razor sharpening, and crop-circling soapbox.
PP

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 12:42 PM

Har! Har! Not a chance, Piper. I love philosophy. Now here are some more thumbnail sketches of popular prophets and omnipotent beings...

the Bab - comparable to John the Baptist, and (arguably) to John from Hull. Had the absolute nerve to suggest modifying Islamic society to include equality for women and mercy to everyone. Was eventually shot by firing squad for being so nice and reasonable.

Baha 'Ullah - the man for whom the Bab was forerunner. Presumably the new Christ of the Age, according to some. Had very progressive social ideas in almost every way, and spent most of his life in prison as a consequence of that.

My mother's dog, Arnot - Miniature dachshund. Definitely believes he is the absolute ruler of all he sees. Getting old and cranky now...

Most American presidents - who all ACT as if they were God, except for Jimmy Carter. This may account for Carter's brief stay at the White House, and his greater success after leaving it.

Don Cherry - Canadian god of roughhouse hockey commentary and really LOUD suits!

Gargoyle - The unseen, Omnipotent One who watches over the sinners of Mudcat.

"Neovedanatist"? Boy, I've been called some nasty stuff, Pied, but that is sinking pretty low. Does your mother know you talk like that? I own no pyramids. If you want to talk to razor-sharpeners, contact Roger Calverley. He's a devotee of Sri Aurobindo, and he's into that kind of stuff bigtime....working with crystals, energy healing, sound therapy...you'd love the guy. He plays the harp too, and had Canada's best-selling "New Age" album a few years back. I think it's called "Celtic Mysteries" or something like that.

- LH

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: CarolC
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 05:16 PM

You stay right where you are, LH. You look good on that soapbox.

Subject: RE: John from Hull/the Baptist
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 26 Nov 02 - 07:26 AM

jOhn9 definitely has many things going for him as an apostle or prophet:

He speaketh in tongues and seemeth full of new wine.

And is not 999 the opposite of the Devil's number ?

How is he on miracles ? - can he turn water (or Watney's) into beer.