BS: South Korea to Bush: Axis This!

Subject: BS: South Korea to Bush: Axis This!
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Dec 02 - 01:07 PM

Well, looks like Bush is 0 for 2 in the last couple of elections. After spending $10 trying to rout out a Dem. Senator in Lousiana and loosing, now the people of South Korea have stood up and elected Roh Moo Hyun who vows to use diplomacy, rather than saber rattling, to "resolve the North Korean nuclear issue". Hmmmmmm?

(Ya mean that Junior ain't gonna get to do his huff-n-puu routine on NK after he attacks Iraq, Bobert?)

Well, looks like if Bush wants to continue his march to war with the *Big Three* (Axis of Evil...) then looks like Iran will have to be next because with nenewed diplomacy between Seoul and Pyongyang, it's gonna be mighty tough to sell that war to anyone other Donnie "Never-Met-A-War-I-Didn't-Like" Dumsfield.

Anyone concerned that the world is quickly becoming too much for Bush's limited vision, attention span and intellect? I am. This guy has bit off more than he can chew, folks...

Well, maybe Bush will just reluctantly take NK off his Axis list and find some other boogieman-de-jur to hold down that all important third position. I hope he's doing his geography assignments. I'd really hate to see Mississippi of Wes Ginny get promoted...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: South Korea to Bush: Axis This!
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Dec 02 - 01:50 PM

In an editorial I read yesterday, the columnist said that taking on the North Korea situation is too dangerous, (given the proximity of Seoul) so Bush is going through diplomatic channels, notably through China, to persuade NK to retreat from its position.

Which, I think, proves that this country does NOT believe Iraq has weapons of mass destruction...

Subject: RE: BS: South Korea to Bush: Axis This!
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Dec 02 - 01:58 PM

no, it proves that North Korea doesn't have any oil.

Subject: RE: BS: South Korea to Bush: Axis This!
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Dec 02 - 03:33 PM

:)

Subject: RE: BS: South Korea to Bush: Axis This!
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Dec 02 - 10:09 PM

Saturday, December 21 VIENNA, Austria (AP) - North Korea (news - web sites) disabled U.N. surveillance equipment installed at one of its reactors Saturday, prompting the U.N. nuclear agency to express "deep regret" over the action and issue a new call for restraint. Oh, yes, Iraq is the immediate danger. Right.

Of course, when would be a better time for a country to flex its muscles than when the world's attention is diverted somewhere else? It might be mostly a nose-thumbing.

Subject: RE: BS: South Korea to Bush: Axis This!
From: DougR
Date: 22 Dec 02 - 12:07 AM

Oh Bobert, there you go again! You simply CAN'T get your facts straight!

Bush spent more than ten dollars on the election in Louisiana! Geeze, my party must have spent as much as $25 and we STILL lost! Check your facts before you let your fingers do the walkin' Bobert ...and remember this ..."You Better Watch Out, Better Not Pout, Better Be Good I'm Tellin' You Why, Santa Claus is Coming to town!"

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: South Korea to Bush: Axis This!
From: toadfrog
Date: 22 Dec 02 - 12:22 AM

Garrison Keylor sang a very thought-provoking version of that song this week. We had, in fact, better watch out. Ashcroft will soon know when we've been sleeping. He will also know when we're awake. He may, if he gets his data sufficiently organized, know when we've been bad or good. And if he doesn't get organized, even those who have been good had better watch out!

Subject: RE: BS: South Korea to Bush: Axis This!
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Dec 02 - 01:37 AM

DougR, you reckon that was a typo? On the other hand, $10 here and $10 there and $10 over there- after awhile it adds up.

Subject: RE: BS: South Korea to Bush: Axis This!
From: Troll
Date: 22 Dec 02 - 05:50 AM

As I have stated before, NK is being treated differently than Iraq because it has enough cannon and rockets pointed at Seoul to wipe the city out in only a few minutes.
In case you haven't looked, SK is an ally of ours as is Japan and HK has rockets with enough range to reach Tokyo.
That's a lot of millions of people they could wipe out all at once. They know it and so do we.
The reason China is being asked to mediate, I think, is that China has enormous influence over NK. I think that China would like to keep NK available to use as a foil in international politics.
It's just like gigs; each one requires a different song list.
Sorry Ebbie, I don't see how NK relates to Iraq's possession of WMDs. As I said, the situations are different. Iraq does not have, at this time, the delivery systems that NK does nor does one of our allies live next door.

troll

Subject: RE: BS: South Korea to Bush: Axis This!
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Dec 02 - 09:29 AM

What, Santa Clause ain't coming, Dougie, 'cause I can't type? Danged. No, make that boohoo... And make that 10 MILLION DOLLARS!

Sorry, didn't mean to get you all twisted up here this close to Chistmas...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: South Korea to Bush: Axis This!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Dec 02 - 09:55 AM

A wise nation finds ways to make ALL its neighbours "Allies" (meaning friends)...not just some of them. This is done through mutual respect, trade, mutual assistance in time of disaster or emergency, resolution of past disagreements through peaceful discussion, mutual reductions in arms, and so on.

It is not done by hurling verbal threats, engaging in economic warfare, and preparing and launching military attacks. Nor is it done through forming alliances to surround and cow some presumed "enemy" into submission. Such alliances have in the past always eventually led to war...sometimes a very large war, sometimes not.

It is unwise nations who engage in the latter group of policies. They do so out of fear, hubris, and an innate sense of cultural superiority over those whom they imagine to be their enemies.

Their only real enemy is their own failure to grasp that humanity is a single nation.

If you give consideration for a moment to the fact that military forces and military-industrial suppliers depend for their very existence upon the eternal maintenance of exterior "enemies", you will see why it has been very hard to alter this unfortunate circumstance.

It is the common desire of ordinary people everywhere to have peace, freedom, and prosperity. Travel, and you will see that. It is the common desire of the military-industrial complex everywhere to perpetuate division and war...while securing a "victory" (for the privileged few at the top). Many (most) of those serving in the military are genuinely patriotic and well-intentioned, and suppose that they are defending freedom. They are not. They are being used to perpetuate division and disaster in order that a very few may profit hugely and continue running things at the expense of the rest of humanity.

- LH