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Subject: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: *#1 PEASANT* Date: 28 Dec 02 - 08:28 PM You see when you go to washington and start out at the history museum then go to the national gallery of art west then through the east you end up on the road to two irish pubs toward union station. Kellys Irish times is generally my favorite but next door is the dubliner. Both pull good pints but the times pulls liters! far superior to pints. Both today failed the St. Stephens customs and wrenning test. None of the wait staff or anyone emplyed there knew anything of the custom. IN both there was no irish music only crap over the speakers and the obligatory sports on the telly. After quizzing the staff in each place mind you in the dubliner for a guinness, a coke and a water I had to pay $7.00 (one will do anything for science) I gave them the obligitory free lecture on the topic. After an enjoyable session for which they reduced my bill by zip.... I departed..... Once again Irish in name and genetics only. A total waste each one. If it isnt proper traditional toss it back....way back.... I think the guys in the local mexican place might no more about the celebrations of the december 25 than any of these genetic Irish. Screw them all...I will make my pub under the stars along the power lines somewhere where all customs will be remembered. Enough of this ethnicity determined by race alone. Its not your name, nor genetics but what you do that counts. Conrad |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: Art Thieme Date: 28 Dec 02 - 08:36 PM Conrad, please pardon my lack of knowing, but what is the proper way to cellebrate which holiday ? Enlighten me, sir. /Art Thieme |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: Noreen Date: 28 Dec 02 - 08:39 PM I thought you'd already said this in your previous thread, Conrad? And as was pointed out in that thread, large parts of Ireland would also fail this 'test of Irishness' of yours. 'Irish pubs' and even 'Irish sandwich bars' are now common here in England, but I don't think anyone who knows anything about anything actually expects them to be Irish... apart from selling a nice pint of Guinness or a slab of Irish Cheddar :0) At least it makes a change for Irishness to be 'cool' in this country; a big change from the insults and disparagement we've put up with over the years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: Bill D Date: 28 Dec 02 - 09:35 PM tsk...it's tough job, |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: The Pooka Date: 29 Dec 02 - 02:58 AM *#1 PEASANT* so very pleasant, I say you are the #1 Wrensch Mensch. I'm no Saint but I know a Scholar when I see one; and I see one. (U.S., Brit, & County Armagh skeptics, not another peep out of yez, can't ye see the good man's for the birds.) Keep up the holy research & education, lad. Not to mention the holy watering: God's work must truly be our own. Up with the kettle & down with the pan, & give up a Euro for tip to yer man. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: leprechaun Date: 29 Dec 02 - 03:06 AM Indeed, Peasant, you are royalty in my book. Please give us instructions on how to conduct the St. Stephens customs and wrenning test. I'm sure many establishments on the west coast could benefit from the same kind of surveillance. And with you passed out under the powerlines somewhere east of the Rockies, somebody else might need to pick up the slack out here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 29 Dec 02 - 01:55 PM I applaud Mr Pleasant for bringing up the hottest topic among Irish Expats. The Americanirishbars are a waste of time - except where there is a buck in it - for any of the old customs. You'd get a better welcome in Blighty, despite what Noreen says. I know, I did it -hunt the wren- many a time. The problem with the US is it's lamentable intoxication for total brainwashing publicity with nuttin to back it up. Ever hear of Mc Donalds?, compared with a Chipbutty .. Going into a Bar with an Irish name looking for craic agus ceol out here is like expecting the Queen to be pulling pints at The Queen's in Islington London UK. What you mostly find these days is a Paki owner, illegals working as staff, crappy Guinness and plasticpaddies who are at Law or Med school. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: Paddy Plastique Date: 30 Dec 02 - 05:36 AM ....and what the Jaysus is wrong with a Plastic Paddy tryin' to improve him/herself... Going by the state of the anglo-saxon world's healthcare in general - Med school wouldn't be a bad idea.. and given they probably haven't gotten rid of the Anti Terrorism Act - the Law School'll probably come in handy some day too. As to the wran - just give them a blast of the Boys of Barr na Sráide... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: *#1 PEASANT* Date: 30 Dec 02 - 07:16 AM To find out about St. Stephen's day (Wrenning Customs) go here <"http://www.geocities.com/Paris/LeftBank/9314/stevewren.html">clicket for wren Actually the problem is much more than reading a pub sign and expecting the queen to be inside. These places-Irish Pubs in america (and I am not talking Irish Bars...quite a different kettle entirely...) put forth the image that once you enter their doors you will find authenticity...... These places are generally long established. In Washington Kellys, and the Dubliner have been there for ages. (right across from union station near the Capitol- stand in front of union station and look left and there they be...) When holidays come around one would expect the staff to be educated beyond their turn of the century aprons etc....unfortunately we found out. Nothing wrong with Plastic Paddies trying to educate themselves. That is my business! Sign up for a course if you are in the Baltimore Washington area. Plenty of room..... Conrad |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: Ron Olesko Date: 30 Dec 02 - 09:24 AM I happen to enjoy The Dubliner and make it a point to stop in for a pint whenever I'm in D.C. The Brickskeller is also another "must see" joint on my list! It may not be authentic Irish, but then again I'm not in Ireland! Keep spreading the word Conrad - we tend to forget the meaning behind the holidays. Even days like Presidents Day, Memorial Day and Veteran's Day have become nothing more than excuses for appliance sales. Ron |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: Coyote Breath Date: 30 Dec 02 - 10:35 AM It is hard to know what to do here in Uhmerikay. McGurk's in St. Louis has an Irish sort of look to it, good music. Way out here on the frontier we suffer with Dennis Connelly's Front Street Grill. He, who steadfastly refuses to buy a nitrogen tap system so's to be able to serve Guiness as it was meant to be served. Too expensive, sez he. I suggested to him that he could pay for it just from his sale of Guiness alone. He charges as much for the CAN as some do for a drawn pint! Well I sit there on occasion anyway since he has good music in the live bands and playing on his CD and he is a friendly lad, though tightfisted. He also serves the best buffalo burgers on the planet. Joy, health, love, and peace! CB |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: UB Ed Date: 30 Dec 02 - 11:35 AM But the Pubs ARE in America! I for one (as I'm sure many others) appreciate the education. Please forgive us; we're doing the best we can (witness American Prime Time TV). For entertainment, the Dubliner does well in the evenings, but you shouldn't miss Nanny Obrien's up near the zoo! Ed |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: MARINER Date: 30 Dec 02 - 12:07 PM The best genuine Irish Pub I found on my recent your of the U.S.A. was ,without any doubt, O'Flaherty's on Toulouse St. in New Orleans. Ihad a pint there in the afternoon and decided to go back that night. What a night!! They were dancing half sets in the public bar to the music of some fine trad group and across the way in the concert room there was another fine session featuring the owner, O'Flaherty himself!. Well worth a visit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: PageOfCups Date: 30 Dec 02 - 12:58 PM [sigh] At least the Dubliner's live music is Irish. More than I can say for the alleged pubs here in San Diego... (Eagles' covers, anyone? Maybe some Billy O'Joel?) PoC |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: *#1 PEASANT* Date: 30 Dec 02 - 08:39 PM Ron: The best pint there is absolutely Kellys Irish Times Get the liter. Always right temp pulled right. The food is also better at kellys. Too bad that Kellys has dropped the music.....So get your feed of food and drink at kellys and then wander over to the dubliner next door for music. I know about Nannys but the Zoo is to me it seems a long way to go. I am not terribly fond of DC in general. Baltimore is more my scale. Never been to Nannys....who knows maybe they would pass the wren quiz. Guinness for so many yups is a luxury. Compared to the days of my youth it is now it seems available everywhere....so prices should drop...but you see as long as the plastic paddys enjoy paying as much as possible it won't. Plastic paddys however, can be generous. I realized that I must have something perhaps, in common with a musician was when I went into Kellys Irish times in Washington DC one summer with my whistles. The background non irish music was not too loud and the lunch was good....so I felt like a bit of music. My brother thought I was playing for a pint and told me that I would never be appreciated in that way there. I said...no I was not playing for a pint but that the pint would go down much beter enriched by a bit of real music. So I played. The waitress came by with the next round and complimented me on the playing. "That is nice music she said" I responded well then perhaps you have a bit of nice guinness.....Shocking my brother she returned with a round for the entire table! I think about 5 liters. My brother and family left me to continue the afternoon with one of his friends. I then was about to leave myself when the waitress ran over quickly to stop me. She brought two doubles of Irish mist. Gift of two plastic pats at the bar. Ok I said I can stay and played on.....this was repeated once again....The first time I had to walk out on offers of free alcohol! I have vowed never to do so again! The good thing about Kellys is that it is right across from Union Station where I catch the metro to go back to home. I can sit there up till five minutes before departure time and still get back in time to pick the wife up from work! If anyone is in baltimore I am always in need of enablement. by the way...here is the link done proper like.... clicket for wren Conrad |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: Donuel Date: 30 Dec 02 - 08:48 PM The Dubliner is my FAV. Best damn fish fry on Earth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: *#1 PEASANT* Date: 31 Dec 02 - 02:26 PM Never had the fish at the Dubliner. Have had the fish at Kellys- always very good so I never had need to go next door to try it there. One thing is certain it would be more expensive at the Dubliner.... I am staying in for new years. No one to go out to the pub with....money is mostly gone.... Conrad |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: Donuel Date: 31 Dec 02 - 02:38 PM Peasant ...Kellys across from Union Station... The Dubliner is right across from Union staion too! Have I confused the two? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: UB Ed Date: 31 Dec 02 - 03:07 PM Donuel, they are right next door to each other |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: *#1 PEASANT* Date: 31 Dec 02 - 06:09 PM Exactly! When standing in front of Union Station look left....across the street You will find the Phoenix park hotel both are to the right of that. Dubliner on left/corner next to underneath hotel kellys to the right. An old Luau Hut! but you couldnt tell inside at all.... Start at kellys then take a peek in the dubliner maybe to take a leak...the glass of water is probably a few bucks.... Conrad |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: Mark Cohen Date: 31 Dec 02 - 09:02 PM An old luau hut, eh? Well, I play Irish music (that is, I thump along on my guitar as best I can while other people play Irish music, and I sing a little too) at Kelly O'Neill's Irish Pub...in Waikiki! 2nd and 4th Sundays of the month, 4 to 7 PM (which of course is 9PM to midnight on the Right Coast) -- stop in and check it out! (And all you non-plastic paddies, how's 2003 look so far? It's only 4PM on the 31st here.) Aloha, Mark |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: Allan Dennehy Date: 31 Dec 02 - 11:04 PM How much is the pint of Guinness in the States? We're expensive in Copenhagen: between 4.80 up to 6 US dollars. And what about other places in the world? Or should this be a new thread? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: Noreen Date: 01 Jan 03 - 09:08 AM What's a luau hut? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: *#1 PEASANT* Date: 01 Jan 03 - 09:34 AM some sort of chain polonesian hyyian rest rant thing.... interesting clay tile roof. Conrad |
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Subject: RE: BS: Two Wash.D.C.'Irish' pubs fail test From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 01 Jan 03 - 03:50 PM Not changing the subject, but when I meet for an Irish night I expect to hear something that is not a rehash of Bunty's CD! While this may occur in a kitchen/backporch jam, it never happens in a Dubliner! -and- a dead fried racing fish is still a racing fish! Talk about jawcrackery Guinness, naw ... But there is hope - in Florida and South Texas I imagine any one who is realy interested could figure out how to find the sessions... but well worth the effort. |