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Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge

Schantieman 04 Jan 03 - 12:58 PM
Keith A of Hertford 04 Jan 03 - 11:55 AM
Charley Noble 04 Jan 03 - 11:45 AM
raredance 04 Jan 03 - 10:41 AM
raredance 04 Jan 03 - 10:37 AM
SINSULL 04 Jan 03 - 10:08 AM
Charley Noble 04 Jan 03 - 09:56 AM
Charley Noble 04 Jan 03 - 09:33 AM
Dead Horse 04 Jan 03 - 09:15 AM
Ship'scat 04 Jan 03 - 06:58 AM
greg stephens 04 Jan 03 - 05:34 AM
fogie 04 Jan 03 - 04:10 AM
Genie 04 Jan 03 - 02:44 AM
Dead Horse 04 Jan 03 - 12:56 AM
mg 03 Jan 03 - 11:45 PM
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mg 03 Jan 03 - 09:58 PM
Charley Noble 03 Jan 03 - 09:20 PM
Leadfingers 03 Jan 03 - 09:03 PM
Amos 03 Jan 03 - 08:53 PM
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Schantieman
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 12:58 PM

And then there was the dog that fell overboard at Cowes a few months ago and swam 10 miles or so back up the Hamble.

Did you ever see a wild goose sailing 'cross the ocean?

Jolly difficult pulling on all those ropes using your wings.

Steve


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 11:55 AM

Chicken on a raft, by Cyril Tawny.
Also, The Hartlepool Monkey was a seafarer before he washed ashore.
Keith


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 11:45 AM

Rich-

Nice version of "Old Horse" and I'm sure your "bark" pun is worse than the "bite" the poor dog was buried in.

Cheerily.
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: raredance
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 10:41 AM

The of course there's the dog in Sailor's Burial at Sea.

"Our bark was out far, far from land..."

rich r


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Subject: Lyr Add: OLD HOSS
From: raredance
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 10:37 AM

Here's a variant to Old Horse. It is from the manuscript "Chanties and Other Songs of the Sea" recalled by William H Smith of Liverpool, Nova Scotia. Mr. Smith was born in 1867. The lyrics were taken down and typed by his son in 1940. The first verse is similar to the Martin Carthy version. The sailor's ration of usually salt beef or pork was known as "salt horse" to the sailor's. A mocking jest to be sure, but who is to say it was never true. Maybe the modern day equivalent was the "McDonald's uses kangaroo meat in their burgers" rumor some years ago. Doerflinger has commented that before the meat was cooked it sas "soaked for days in the 'harness cask' on deck, to make it edible.". According to Edith Fowke, verses like these were often chanted when the meat was served and were sometimes called "The Sailor's Grace".

OLD HOSS

Old Hoss, old hoss, how came you here?
You've carted poles for many a year.
With kicks and cuffs and sore abuse,
You're salted down for sailor's use.

From the foremast to the pump
You'll find me salted down in junks;
Now I think i'm donw at last,
But if you think I lie,
You'll find my hoof in the bottom of the harness cask.


rich r


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 10:08 AM

Charlie, Didn't you sing the song about a cow falling out of the sky and landing on a Japanese fishing boat?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 09:56 AM

I suppose I should post at least one verse of the Lovett song:

If I had a boat
I'd go out on the ocean
And if I had a pony
I'd ride him on my boat
And we could all together
Go out on the ocean
Me upon my pony on my boat.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, who has nothing better to do this day but shovel snow


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 09:33 AM

Not a bad harvest considering the challenge!

Dead Horse-

"Darby Ram": a shanty?
"Donkey Riding": a fine traditional shanty
"Ol' Moke": "moke" IS slang for a mule but I suspect the reference is to a black man playing on the banjo
"Hog Eye": a bit of a stretch
"Wild Goose Shanty": well, sure, why not?

Mary- good catch on "Wild Rover"!

Fogie- you certainly deserve major credit for cotributing a traditional sea song featuring 1800 sheep on the deep! Wow! Any clue to the tune?

Ship'scat- Never knew that "The Wild West Show" ever made it out to sea.

I expected someone to mention Lyle Lovett's song about "the pony in the boat"

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Dead Horse
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 09:15 AM

And there are always *Black Sheep* the euphomism for the slave trade.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Ship'scat
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 06:58 AM

Sparkey asks "Where we goin', boys?". The mate replies

"Oh, we're bound for the Hamburg show [off to the Hamburg Zoo] [wild west show],
To see the elephant and the wild kangaroo,
An' we'll all stick together
In fair or foul weather,
For we're going to see the damn show through!"

"And in this corner we have the lion, the only pussy that eats you", etc

Definately found at sea by John Dos Passos in 1920


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 05:34 AM

This is a bit vague, but a famous cow got dropped in the sea off a ferry in the outer hebrides a while ago, and swam ashore some considerable distance away. And someone definitely wrote a song about it. More than that I cant remember.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: fogie
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 04:10 AM

I know one about sheep at sea which might be Clare ,but I'm afraid I'm the worst at organising and remembering. I heard it sung in Oswestry I think ten years or so ago and it became a firm favourite. It has an eery quality which makes me think of all those mid-europeans going to concentration camps. Excuse my lines, and I can't put down the music either.

Once when I was down in Baltimore,
A man came round to me and cried,
See I have 18,hundred sheep,
And we must sail on the morning tide,

And if you'll sail with me young man,
50 guineas I'd lay down,
These 1800 sheep I take ,
From Baltimore to glasgow town.

He paid me 5o gns down,
I sailed with 1800 sheep,
And soon we'd left the harbour ground ,
And rolled upon the endless deep.

The first night we were on the sea,
Those sheep were peaceful in their minds
The second night they cried for fear,
They smelt no pastures on the wind.

They cried poor things for their dear green hills,
They cried so loud I couldn't sleep,
For 50 thousand guineas now,
I wouldn't sail again with sheep

rept 1st vs.

I think this qualifies


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Genie
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 02:44 AM

How about that *%!@*! "Unicorn" song that all the Irish groups hate? "...the waters rose up and just floated them away...".

And, Charley:
"Dead Dog Cider" doesn't rise to the top of this list.
GROOAANNNNN!!

¤'-)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Dead Horse
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 12:56 AM

What flavour is it?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: mg
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 11:45 PM

Has anyone ever put some of the verses to the Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner to music? There's the Albatross. mg


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Dead Horse
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 11:13 PM

Derby Ram (there's ya sheep, Bluey)
Donkey Riding
Old Moke (Pickin on a Banjo)
Hogs Eye
Wild Goose
Any number of *Bullies*
......and does a Mermaid count as half a fish?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: mg
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 09:58 PM

one more river..

Irish Rover..dog drowns


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 09:20 PM

Maybe we need to write some new ones for all the missing beastie mariners!

I do seem to remember a long poem about a circus steamer that went down in Penobscot Bay back in the 19th century.

How 'bout the two weevils meeting each other in the middle of a sea biscuit; we could write a song about the lessor of the two.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Leadfingers
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 09:03 PM

I know its NOT at sea song but the Drover's Dream gets a fair few Australian Beasties in,though NOT a kangaroo.So Clancy where the hell are the flaming Sheep?


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Subject: Lyr Add: SEA COWS
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 08:53 PM

Well, Charlie, here's a tale for you, although it may be disqualified as "regular" nautical animals....

SEA COWS



(Tune: Angels (Robbie Williams) )

 

I sit and wait; do manatees define my fate?
And do they know the places where we go
When we're grey and old?
'Cause I have been told
That hot springs let their minds unfold
So when I'm lying in my night,
Thoughts I hope will make things right
And I feel that love is dead, I'm loving manatees instead.

And through it all they offer me compassion
Tolerant and kind affection, whether I'm right or wrong
And down the river course, wherever it may lead
My heart will never bleed
And she will answer, and that is all I need
I'm loving manatee instead.

When I'm feeling pale or gray
And my pain becomes a runaway
I look to sea and I know
I always will be free
And as it grows, she breathes things only sea-cows know,
And when love is dead, I'm loving manatee instead

And through it all they offer me compassion
Tolerant and kind affection, whether I'm right or wrong
And down the river course, wherever it may lead
My heart will never bleed
And she will answer, all I need
I'm loving manatee instead.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 07:58 PM

Bruce-

Thanks for your suggestion. Maybe you'd like to set up the query for "Animals at Sea" with the qualifications above.

Genie-

Nice to hear from you again, and "Dead Dog Cider" doesn't rise to the top of this list. Glad to hear that Cousin Marguerite is still attending song swaps.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 07:40 PM

You can get all the animal related songs in the DT by going to the "Lyrics and Knowledge Search" box and typing in "@animal".

Bruce


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Genie
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 07:06 PM

Charley, how can you omit "Dead Dog Cider?"!! I know, it's not about the sea, but it IS about a large body of liquid, after all! *BG*

Genie

PS,[thread drift]
got to spend New Year's Eve with Marguerite and other folkies in a jam-session party. Lots of fun.


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Subject: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 06:24 PM

Dear Mudcatters-

To while away the winter season I thought I'd make a list of animal songs, where the animal in question, wild or domesticated, is the principal focus. Although I recognize that humans are animals I'm not really interested in them, nor in the regular nautical animals.

Here's my personal list, most of which I've posted previously on Mudcat in some fashion:

1 "Cowardly Act" by Charlie Ipcar
2 "Dead Horse Shanty" by TRAD
3 "Hen Overboard" by Peter Tristam Coffin
4 "Long Time Ago" (Noah's Ark) by TRAD
5 "Mollymauk" by Bob Watson
6 "Old Horse" by TRAD
7 "Owl & the Pussycat"
8 "Rescue of Ship's Cat" by Charlie Ipcar
9 "Rodent Mariners" by Hamish Maclaren

Note, there appear to be no songs staring sheep, pigs, geese, turkeys, turtles, llamas, snakes or other reptiles, insects, kangaroos, bats, wombats, raccoons, dinosaurs, lions, tigers, leopards, elephants, just to name a few. Yes, I'm aware that a few songs have animal titles such as "Aboard the Kangaroo" but a kangaroo is not featured as an animal in the song – no credit for such submissions!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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