Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 06 Nov 11 - 11:09 AM Well, the tune has morphed again with a few more wording changes. Now it's more like a traditional a traditional blues, think Stagger-Lee: As adapted for singing by Charlie Ipcar, 11/6/11 By Rudyard Kipling, © 1894 Tune: traditional blues Mulholland's Contract-3 G------------------------------------------------------C--G The fear was on the cattle, for the gale was on the sea, ----------C----------------------------C7-C--------D------C---------G An' the pens broke up on the low-er deck an' let the creatures free -- ------------D------------------------D7----D-----------------C-------D---G Then the lights went out as the cattle lowed, with no one near but me. An' I'd been singin' all night long just to keep them quiet there, For the lower deck has dangers, requirin' constant care, An' given to me as the strongest man, though I used to drink and swear. I saw my chance was certain sure of bein' horned or trod, For the deck was packed with cattle, thicker then peas in a pod, An' more pens broke at every roll -- so I made a Contract with God. An' by the terms of this Contract, as I have read the same, If He got me back to port alive I would exalt His Name, An' praise His Holy Majesty, till further orders came. He saved me from the cattle, an' He saved me from the sea, For they found me 'tween two drowned ones where the roll had landed me -- An' a four-inch crack on top of my head, as crazy as could be. That crack was done by a stanchion, not by a bullock at all, An' I lay still for seven weeks, convalessing of the fall, An' readin' them shiny Scripture texts in the Seaman's Hospital. An' I spoke to God of our Contract, an' He answer'd to my prayer: "I never puts on My ministers no more than they can bear; So go you back to them cattle-boats an' preach My Gospel there. "For human life's a chancy thing at any kind of trade, But most of all, as well you know, when the steers are mad-afraid; So go you back to them cattle-boats an' preach 'em as I've say'd. "They must quit their drinkin' an' swearin', no knifing at a blow, An' they must quit their gamblin', an' you must preach it so; For them cattle-boats are more like Hell than anything I know." Now I didn't want to do it, for I knew what I would get, An' I wanted to preach Religion, handsome an' out of the wet, But the Word of the Lord was lain on me, an' I done what I was set. So I've been smit an' bruised, as I knew would be the case, But I've turned my cheek to the smiter exactly as Scripture says; An' followin' that, I knocked him down an' led him up to Grace. Now we've got preaching on Sundays, whenever the sea is calm, An' I use no knife or pistol an' I never takes no harm, For the Lord abideth back of me to guide my fightin' arm. An' I sign for four-pound-ten a month and save the money clear, An' I'm in charge of the lower deck, an' I never lose a steer; An' I believe in Almighty God, an' preach His Gospel here. The skippers say I'm crazy, but I can prove 'em wrong, For I'm in charge of the lower deck with all that doth belong -- Which they would not give to a lunatic, the competition all so strong! And I restored the last verse, which I'm still not sure is a keeper. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 05 Nov 11 - 04:22 PM Here's another old poems that my mother suggested I have a look at by Rudyard Kipling, with the focus on steers running amuck in a cattle boat caught in a gale (copy and paste into WORD/TIMES/12 to line up the chords): As adapted for singing by Charlie Ipcar, 11/6/11 By Rudyard Kipling, © 1894 Mulholland's Contract-2 C-----------------------------------------F-------------G--C The fear was on the cattle, for the gale was on the sea, ------------------------------------------G--C----------------------------G An' the pens broke up on the low-er deck an' let the creatures free -- ------------F--------------------------Am------------------F-------------G--C Then the lights went out as the cattle lowed, with no one near but me. An' I'd been singin' all the night just to keep them quiet there, For the lower deck has its dangers, requirin' constant care, An' given to me as the strongest man, though I used to drink and swear. I saw my chance was certain sure of bein' horned or trod, For the deck was packed with steers, thicker then peas in a pod, An' more pens broke at every roll -- so I made a Contract with God. An' by the terms of this Contract, as I have read the same, If He got me back to port alive I would exalt His Name, An' praise His Holy Majesty, till further orders came. He saved me from the cattle, an' He saved me from the sea, For they found me 'tween two drowned ones where the roll had landed me -- An' a four-inch crack on top of my head, as crazy as could be. That crack was done by a stanchion, not by a bullock at all, An' I lay still for seven weeks, convalessing of the fall, An' readin' the shiny Scripture texts in the Seaman's Hospital. An' I spoke to God of our Contract, an' He answer'd to my prayer: "I never puts on My ministers no more than they can bear; So go you back to them cattle-boats an' preach My Gospel there. "For human life's a chancy thing at any kind of trade, But most of all, as well you know, when the steers are mad-afraid; So go you back to them cattle-boats an' preach 'em as I've say'd. "They must quit their drinkin' an' swearin', no knifing at a blow, An' they must quit their gamblin', an' you must preach it so; For them cattle-boats are more like Hell than anything I know." Now I didn't want to do it, for I knew what I would get, An' I wanted to preach Religion, handsome an' out of the wet, But the Word of the Lord was lain on me, an' I done what I was set. So I've been smit an' bruised, as I knew would be the case, But I've turned my cheek to the smiter exactly as Scripture says; An' followin' that, I knocked him down an' led him up to Grace. Now we've got preaching on Sundays, whenever the sea is calm, An' I use no knife or pistol an' I never takes no harm, For the Lord abideth back of me to guide my fightin' arm. An' I sign for four-pound-ten a month and save the money clear, An' I'm in charge of the lower deck, an' I never lose a steer; An' I believe in Almighty God, an' preach His Gospel here. Notes: First published in 1894, republished in The Seven Seas, © 1896, p. 88. By Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936) Mulholland's Contract (original poem) The fear was on the cattle, for the gale was on the sea, An' the pens broke up on the lower deck an' let the creatures free -- An' the lights went out on the lower deck, an' no one near but me. I had been singin' to them to keep them quiet there, For the lower deck is the dangerousest, requirin' constant care, An' give to me as the strongest man, though used to drink and swear. I see my chance was certain of bein' horned or trod, For the lower deck was packed with steers thicker 'n peas in a pod, An' more pens broke at every roll -- so I made a Contract with God. An' by the terms of the Contract, as I have read the same, If He got me to port alive I would exalt His Name, An' praise His Holy Majesty till further orders came. He saved me from the cattle an' He saved me from the sea, For they found me 'tween two drownded ones where the roll had landed me -- An' a four-inch crack on top of my head, as crazy as could be. But that were done by a stanchion, an' not by a bullock at all, An' I lay still for seven weeks convalessing of the fall, An' readin' the shiny Scripture texts in the Seaman's Hospital. An' I spoke to God of our Contract, an' He says to my prayer: "I never puts on My ministers no more than they can bear. So back you go to the cattle-boats an' preach My Gospel there. "For human life is chancy at any kind of trade, But most of all, as well you know, when the steers are mad-afraid; So you go back to the cattle-boats an' preach 'em as I've said. "They must quit drinkin' an' swearin', they mustn't knife on a blow, They must quit gamblin' their wages, and you must preach it so; For now those boats are more like Hell than anything else I know." I didn't want to do it, for I knew what I should get, An' I wanted to preach Religion, handsome an' out of the wet, But the Word of the Lord were lain on me, an' I done what I was set. I have been smit an' bruised, as warned would be the case, An' turned my cheek to the smiter exactly as Scripture says; But following that, I knocked him down an' led him up to Grace. An' we have preaching on Sundays whenever the sea is calm, An' I use no knife or pistol an' I never take no harm, For the Lord abideth back of me to guide my fighting arm. An' I sign for four-pound-ten a month and save the money clear, An' I am in charge of the lower deck, an' I never lose a steer; An' I believe in Almighty God an' preach His Gospel here. The skippers say I'm crazy, but I can prove 'em wrong, For I am in charge of the lower deck with all that doth belong -- Which they would not give to a lunatic, and the competition so strong! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 05 Nov 11 - 09:11 AM Gibb- It certainly would be nice to harvest the rest of this shanty, as the primates take over sailing the ship after the crew was struck down by yellow jack. Maybe I can channel the rest of the verses. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Gibb Sahib Date: 05 Nov 11 - 07:29 AM Kinkajou? Good Mornin', Ladies All |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 04 Nov 11 - 05:30 PM refresh |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 14 Jan 05 - 02:37 PM ClaireBear- Perhaps, your grandfather also knew this verse as well: She was only the stableman's daughter, But all the sheepmen knew 'er... Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: GUEST,ClaireBear Date: 14 Jan 05 - 01:29 PM No, but you just reminded me that my mother told me that my grandfather (whom I never met) always sang "Rocked on the Cradle of the Deep" as "Locked in the Stable with the Sheep." Coincidence? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 14 Jan 05 - 11:18 AM Refresh! I'm wondering if anyone has come up with any new thoughts? I still think "Sheep on the Deep" is the clear winner but one can have a whole lot of fun reviewing this thread. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 27 Feb 03 - 08:56 PM And the "hot barbeque"! Great song! Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: GUEST,ClaireBear Date: 27 Feb 03 - 06:51 PM Glad to see this back, as I just remembered the dragon -- not to mention the Zebu -- in Jimmy Driftwood's "Voyage of St Brendan" (in the DT under that name). Hadn't thought of it in ages. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 27 Feb 03 - 06:16 PM Just heard a tape of "Sheep on the Deep" and it's a real pleasing song. I may just have to convince Roll & Go to do it, although individual members can be as difficult to herd as sheep. We might also be subject to all kinds of outrageous puns and pruient suggestions. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 12 Jan 03 - 10:39 AM Well, Gripper, not bad for animal nicknames but not non-marine animals featured in a sea ballad. I think that sheep song is gonna win; it's shear pleasure just to read the lyrics... Click, click, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: GUEST,gripper Date: 11 Jan 03 - 04:01 PM Check out 'The Grimsby Fisherman' otherwise known as 'The Dogger Bank' in Roy Palmer's Oxford Book of Sea Songs. Therein you will find the following lines--Our skipper's a Shanghai rooster---A Liverpool Irish Packet-rat and a son of a kangaroo---and in every ringtail monkey man you'd recognise our cook. Every sea dog knows this one. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 11 Jan 03 - 09:50 AM Then there was the sad case of the sheep shipped from the Falklands back to England after the great war there not so long ago. There was Jock the sheepherder, drowning his sorrows at the Port Stanley Pub, lamenting the loss of his herd. "Were they killed by bombing, or mines, or shell fire?" one of his neighbors kindly asked. "Hell, no," replied Jock wiping away a tear, "They was sent back as war brides!" Sheepishly, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 10 Jan 03 - 05:42 PM Nancy-O, thanks so much for the notes and additional lines to the sheep at sea song. This single song makes this whole thread worth sifting through. I do hope the 3rd Boarding Party CD finally sees the light of day, and I don't want to hear the details of what must be a difficult process. I just want to buy a bale of them and send them out to my friends. Cheerily, Charley Noble P.S. "Do you hear sheep?" me brother said; Me Grandma lept in fright! "Your brother's wrong," Grandma said, "Have you herd sheep is right!" |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Nancy King Date: 09 Jan 03 - 11:50 PM I was rather surprised to see Fogie's "sheep" song, as it's clearly from the same source as one Jonathan Eberhart of The Boarding Party put together some years ago. The BP did record the song, but the album has yet to be released (hang in there, folks, it'll happen eventually…). Gordon Bok, who learned it from the BP, has also recorded it (with the January Men, I think?) and his recording will undoubtedly come out before the BP's – probably quite soon. I wonder if Fogie learned it from either the Boarding Party or Bok, or -- ???. Hard to imagine two people coming up with this independently… Anyhow, here are the explanatory notes that will accompany the Boarding Party's – er – forthcoming album, along with the lyrics (I'm no good at posting tunes, Charley, but if you want it, PM me and we'll work something out): The Boarding Party's interest in sheep comes primarily from our many friends who are shearers, carders, spinners, dyers, knitters, weavers and waulkers of wool and not from that animal's questionable affiliation with the maritime trades. Even the veterinarian (tanky) on board royal navy ships was better known for dispensing grog than for butchering mutton. But sheep do get around, and they have a bad reputation among sailors. K. C. remembers the regular arrival in Saudi Arabia of the Australian sheep carrier ships and their strong and distinctive odor. W. H. Davies (1871-1940) was an Englishman who spent many years roaming the USA as a vagrant and working as a cowboy and as an animal handler aboard ships carrying live cargo. His "Autobiography of a Super-Tramp" ("with a preface by G. Bernard Shaw;" London: Jonathan Cape, 1908) contains vivid descriptions of his shipboard experiences with cattle and--far worse--sheep. He was also a poet, and published hundreds of verses, many of which reflect his life experiences. Jonathan, with the help of good friend Susan Hills, put together this song by combining and adapting two poems, "Sheep" (1911) and "A Child's Pet" (1920--about the one tame sheep in a hold full of miserable creatures), both of which are found in The Complete Poems of W. H. Davies (Jonathan Cape, 1963). The refrain and tune are adapted from a traditional spiritual, "Sheep, Sheep, Don't You Know the Road," as sung by Helen Schneyer, who heard it from Bessie Jones of the Georgia Sea Island Singers. When I was once in Baltimore A man came up to me and cried, "Come, I have eighteen hundred sheep To Glasgow bound on Tuesday's tide." Sheep, sheep, don't you know the tide? Yes, yes, we know the tide. Sheep, sheep, don't you know the tide? Oh yes, we know the tide. The first night we were out at sea Those sheep were quiet in their mind. The second night they cried with fear-- They smelt no pastures in the wind. Sheep, sheep, don't you know the wind? (etc.) They sniffed, poor things, for their green fields, They cried so loud I could not sleep. They would not eat, they would not drink, But bleated o'er the salt sea deep. Sheep, sheep, don't you know the deep? (etc.) To sort the living from the dead, Inside the pens we crawled each day, And ere we came to Glasgow town, Five hundred sheep had passed away. Sheep, sheep, don't you know the way? (etc.) For all of fifty shillings down I sailed across the salt sea deep. For fifty thousand shillings down I would not sail again with sheep. Sheep, sheep, don't you know the sheep? Oh yes, we know the sheep. For fifty million shillings down I would not sail again with sheep. Sheep, sheep, don't you know the tide Oh yes, we know the tide. Sheep, sheep, you're bound to ride Sheep on the deep and how they cried-- Sheep on the deep and how they cried. Cheers, Nancy |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: PageOfCups Date: 09 Jan 03 - 06:51 PM Flanders & Swann's "Glorious Mud" has hippopotami in water (but it's a river or a lake). Bonus points for rhyming "hip-po-pot-A-mus" with "ig-no-RAY-mus." PoC |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: COINWOLF Date: 09 Jan 03 - 02:38 PM Amos is quite correct ..Hippopotamanners! Anyone know the tune? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 09 Jan 03 - 09:13 AM Ken- A violation of the Prime Thread Directive (see initial posting). Squigleys are indigenous to the oceans. Maybe someone should start a squigley thread; I could offer one of the new Roll & Go T-shirts with a squid embracing an ancient ship as first prize. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: Lyr Add: BILLY THE SQUID (T Chapin & J Forster) From: Ken Schatz Date: 09 Jan 03 - 12:17 AM Delighted to find this Right Here in the DT. Always a treat to hear Rick Nestler sing it... BILLY THE SQUID (Tom Chapin & John Forster, 1992.) In the sagas of under-sea outlaws, And the great soggy deeds that they did, The saltiest thief ever swam down a reef Was an outlaw named Billy the Squid. From the Grand Bank he'd stolen sand-dollars And escaped on a sea-horse named Sid. He took from the selfish and gave to the shell-fish That great-hearted Billy the Squid. In the Pink Coral Lounge -- that's the sand-bar Of the former Miss Lake Champlain -- A beautiful mollusk, a real living dollusk Her name it was Clammity Jane. And the dive was as hard as a barnacle. It was real barracuda to reign, Where groupers and grunts pulled unsavory stunts, Which was tough on poor Clammity Jane. One night through the door swam a stranger. To the corner he squirted and slid. All the fish in the room grew as hush as a tomb When they saw it was Billy the Squid. Well, he had not come there for a hold-up Or for personal criminal gain. He said, "I've come on a mission. I've come here a-fishin'. I've come for you, Clammity Jane." He said, "Damn it, Clammit, I've hurt you. I've caused you some pain. This I know. But before it's too late, I'm gonna go straight, Or as straight as a squid can go." So he asked for her hand, but she had none, And to prove it, she opened her lid. She said, "How 'bout a foot?" and her foot out she put. "It's a beauty," said Billy the Squid. So he gathered her up in his tentacles. Into the sunset they rid. She said to him, clammily, "Let's start a family." "Yahoo!" said Billy the Squid. So then they moved to the submarine suburbs, And when they found that they could not have kids, They adopted three guppies and four dogfish puppies, And a whole bunch of clammits and squids. In the sagas of under-sea outlaws, And the great soggy deeds that they did, There's a clam who prevailed where the sheriff had failed, When she captured bold Billy the Squid. [As sung by Iain MacKintosh.] @animal filename[ BILLSQID JD July01 |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 08 Jan 03 - 07:53 AM Check the DT for "Wonderful Crocodile" and draw your own conclusions. It's a fantastic song and well merits a look and a vote. "After a while", Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Desert Dancer Date: 08 Jan 03 - 01:50 AM Anglo, but was he a marine crocodile, or freshwater? ~ Becky in Tucson |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Anglo Date: 07 Jan 03 - 09:02 PM Perhaps I skimmed through the thread too quickly, but no one seems to have mentioned the Wonderful Crocodile. |
Subject: Lyr Add: FATE OF THE ROYAL TAR From: Charley Noble Date: 07 Jan 03 - 04:28 PM Looks like this thread has run its course. Here's a long poem by Wilbert Snow, 1836, based on a historical tragedy. The Royal Tar was a steamer that ran from St. John, New Brunswick, to Portland, Maine. On October 25, 1836, she was chartered to transport a traveling circus when she caught fire and sank in Penobscot Bay. FATE OF THE ROYAL TAR Come to the wharf and you shall see The world's most wonderful menagerie – Elephants from Africa, lions, too, And the greatest marsupial kangaroo Fresh from Australia; wart-hogs, ounces, And double-humped camels with fringy flounces; Don't miss the snakes and the boa-constrictors, Slaves from the South and Roman lictors Dressed as they were in Ceasar's day; And a unifomed band from Paraguay, With the latest tunes of the U.S.A. For twenty-five cents you can see it all. Who could resist such a wonderful call? Not we who were nourished from year to year On Noah's Ark, why, the Ark was here! And some who had scruples when Barnum's tent Was pitched by the depot (of course, they went To welcome it in at the flick of dawn) Had no such qualms at this great hulk drawn Up to the wharf – there was sanction wise In Holy Writ for this enterprise; They even expected, so well they knew The tale, that the monsters, two by two, Would strut as they did for Noah's crew. I see her now as a squalid craft, Crowded with animals fore and aft, With smelly animals pacing their cages, Venting their wrath in various rages – See her, all too clear; but then my eyes, Tinctured with youth's prismatic dyes, Saw the red plush cabin, a gallery grand, Like a room in the mansions of the Promised Land; And the chandelier hanging, a ruby chalice, Would have graced a hall in the Shushan palace; The snake-charmer standing, golden haired and tall, Was Eve in the Garden just before the Fall; And the blindfolded wizard, adding reams on reams, Was Joseph in Egypt unravelling dreams; The strong man was Samson, and the lion-tamer shone Like Daniel in the dungeon of Babylon. We stood on the wharf when she sailed away, Out of the harbor kicking up spray, Leaving a wake of white at her stern That bubbled toward the dock like butter in a churn; We heard the animals' dwindling groans, Saw red-coated Negroes rolling the bones; And the Stars and Stripes on the Autumn air Turned the Hebrew legends to a Down East fair, The day being over I heaved a sigh To know such glories could be born and die. The boys of Vinalhaven, where the next stop came, Saw the marvels we had witnessed, and, O grief too hard to name, Saw the wonder ship of ocean going up in flame; The story rose and widened, in a fortnight grew To Biblical proportions; was there ever such a crew? The animal trainers set their charges free, And shoved them off the deck in the ice-cold sea; The Captain on the poop, ringed round with fire, Yelled orders in vain, for a thousand times higher Were the roars and groans of the beasts that rolled In the fiery furnace of that vessel's hold; A Negro risked his life for a pony he fed; A dog-trainer labored till he singed his head; The keeper of a llama that had just given birth To a white baby llama on a handful of earth Took the helpless thing ashore on the last boat freed, But the mother beast was lost in that wild stampede; These three were labeled on the very next show As Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. And some in that furnace would never feel The up and down fortunes of another keel; But those who came through told the weirdest tale Of that blazing night; our cheeks went pale To hear how the animals swam, though spent, Round that ball of fire, like moths intent On a lighted lamp; how the herring too, In the harbor leaped toward the flame and flew Till they hit the deck; how the snakes' dark skin Turned iridescent as a minnow's fin; And the snakes' green eyes on the purple sea Were emeralds bedded in porphyry; Of the beasts set free the bulk went down By the burning ship; but a new renown Was in wait for the few that swam ashore; To hear a lordly lion roar On an island nub was a thing to boast For boys of this quiet northern coast; But there stood one the color of sand In the cove beside him, guarding the land; A chestnut stallion was seen next day On a half-tide rock far out in the bay; And the stories of snakes in the bushes grew Till the blackberries rotted on the vines; all through The island ran shudders, but they really seemed slight Compared to the jungle of our dreams that night; In one wild nightmare I was chopping up a snake When a lion swam towards me on the burning lake; I tried hard to run, but heard the pound, pound Of forty-'leven elephants beating up the ground, Tearing through the spruces – on the leader sat A little baby llama in a red plush hat; A tiger just above me in an island spruce Made a leap for the llama, his jaws dripping juice; He wriggled on his belly to eat me up When an orang-outang with a moustache-cup Full of blood, and a razor, said, "Come and shave me, Or pizzle-end up in the bottom of the sea You go!" In a jiffy he put me on a plank And shoved me in the water where I shivered and sank Till my back hit a spike on the Royal Tar's rail And woke me up; I could still feel the nail In my back when I woke – some kink, I guess, But wasn't I happy to be out of that mess! One year later walking up the hill Folks of Vinalhaven had a brand new thrill – For out on the spot where the Royal Tar lay Red flames shot up, then faded away; They looked at one another, "Did you? And you? See that flame take shape? Then it must be true." They remembered and believed, for many a year On that autumn night a crowd would appear Looking out toward Eggemoggin Reach to behold The Royal Tar rising in a circle of gold; And some saw a sign that the flood of Noah's warning Would yield to fire on the Judgment Morning; But other folks went to bask in the glow Of the one great horror they would ever know. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 07 Jan 03 - 08:34 AM Well, Dead Horse, we might save that one for singing during the "dog watches," assuming they haven't been curtailed again! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Dead Horse Date: 07 Jan 03 - 08:28 AM On Baggyrinkle CD they do "A Pound And A Pint" but it wasn't about a dog pound, unfortunately, or I would post it;-) |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 06 Jan 03 - 12:58 PM Becky- Because people of good taste have deleted Tom's yarn from their memories? Nahhh! Thanks, for the suggestion.;~) Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Desert Dancer Date: 06 Jan 03 - 12:48 PM What, no mention yet of Tom Lewis's "Bunts" the sea-going dog? ~ Becky in landlocked Tucson |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Dead Horse Date: 06 Jan 03 - 11:49 AM So! Your mother Kipples! What a noble pasttime;-) |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 06 Jan 03 - 08:43 AM Well, I added the Hippo song to my burgeoning collections of such songs (which includes "I Dreamed I was a Hippopotamus" as sung by Hilary Spencer of Artisan) BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SEA. Unless, of course, it's in the key of C... Thanks, Fogie, for the ABC's; I'll spread them out on a napkin and see what I can make of them. Don't suppose there is a similar traditional tune you could suggest? My mother was muttering that apart from "Rolling Down to Rio" we were ignoring a wealth of other Kipling poems with domestic animals at sea. I'm sure at the age of 86 her mind is playing tricks with her. She often comes up with brilliant "Kipling poems", only to confess later that she's rewritten them in her sleep. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: fogie Date: 06 Jan 03 - 06:32 AM Is this any use to you. It's my crude attempt at ABC for SHEEP in C more or less one not per syllable C C B A G G A3 G G4 A A A G3 G C d e/d/C d4 f f f e3 C A3 G G4 A A A G3 G/G A B C4 fill in instr between vs. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Amos Date: 05 Jan 03 - 02:30 PM I think that second hippopotamisses should be hippopotamanners, no? A |
Subject: Lyr Add: I HAD A HIPPOPOTAMUS (Patrick Barrington) From: COINWOLF Date: 05 Jan 03 - 02:24 PM The alternative Hippopotamus song should not be forgotten, but who is the author? I had a Hippopotamus, I kept him in a shed, I fed him up on vitamins and vegetable bread, I made him my companion on many a cheery walk And had his portait taken by a celebrity in chalk. His charming eccentricities was known on every side The creature's popularity was wonderfully wide He frolicked with the Rector in a dozen friendly tussles Who couldn't but remark upon his hippopotamuscles If he should be afflicted by depression or the dumps, By hippopotameasles or hippopotamumps, I never knew a particle of peace till it was plain, He was hippopotamasticating properly again. I had a hippopotamus, I loved him like a friend But beautiful relationships are bound to have an end Time takes alas our joys from us and robs us of our blisses My hippopotamus turned out a hippopotamisses. My housekeeper regarded him with jaundice in her eye She didn't want a colony of hippopotami She borowed a machine gun from her soldier nephew Percy Who showed my hippopotamus no hippopotamercy My house now lacks the glamour that the charming creature gave, The garage where I kept him is as silent as the grave, No longer he displays amongst the motor tyres and spanners, His hippopotamastery of hippopotamisses No longer does he gambol in the orchard in the spring, No longer do I lead him through the village on a string, No longer in the mornings does the neighbourhood rejoice, To his hippopotamusically modulated voice. I had a hippopotamus, but nothing upon earth, Is lasting in its happiness or constant in its mirth No joy that life can give me can be strong enough to smother, My sorrow for what might have been a hippopotamother I had a hippopotamus, I loved him like a friend But beautiful relationships are bound to have an end Time will take alas the joy from you, and rob you of your blisses When your hippopotamus turns out a hippopotamisses. If you know where this came from please let us know. Trying to trace owner, nearest known source in Cheltenham Uk, but furthest source to date in Connnecticut, USA Festival Cat www.uptonfolk.org |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 05 Jan 03 - 10:37 AM Too many incoming to deal with! I think Mike O Quinn's contribution "Swing a Cat" by Meg Davis deserves special mention for being right on target. Any Jenny-O has, indeed, redeemed herself with her new verse for "Dead Puppies." The other contributions fall into the category of incidental mentioning of animals, rather than full stories. To these I would add "Rolling Down to Rio" with its "dillying with an armadillo", "Wreck of the Athens Queen" with its cow on a sofa being rowed ashore as salvage, and the shanty "Boston Harbor" with its chorus of "big bow-wow". And, no credit to Dead Horse for suggesting "Billy Riley" as a goat shanty when we all know that Billy Riley was a dancing master, with an oh so lovely daughter. Now if you can send "Bill Broghan's Goat" out to sea, lash him down on a wave in the path of an Exxon tanker, then, just maybe we might grant credit. What do you all think? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Ship'scat Date: 05 Jan 03 - 09:29 AM Aha - More noble beasts "I'm dirty and lousy and full of fleas Said Barnable Bill the Sailor" (louses and fleas count as two) "In the progress of civilization From anthropoind apes down to man The palm is awarded the Navy For frigging whatever it can. Exhaustive experimentation By Darwin and Huxley and Hall Has proved that the ass of the hedgehog Can hardly be buggered at all We therefore believe our conclusion Is incontrovertibly shown: Comparative safety on shipboard Is enjoyed by the hedgehog alone" Heather Wood's Hedgehog Song goes on to add verses dedicated to other potential animal "targets" to include the: bear, horse, donkey, ox, fox, shrew, asp, wasp, elephant, bee, termite, beetle, ladyird, cat, rabbit, ermine, rat, mouse, roach, dog, giraffe, yeti, fly, cow, boar, piglet, stoat, sow, ram, ewe, tiger, seal, eel, crab, bat, snake, quetzal, billy, nanny, kid, slug, snail That's 42 animals not counting the anthropoidal ape and the hedgehod himself. Interestingly enough Heather doesn't connect her piece back to the Naval reference. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: raredance Date: 05 Jan 03 - 12:16 AM The Owl and the Pussycat by Edward Lear was melodized and recorded by the Simon Sisters. rich r |
Subject: Lyr Add: SWING A CAT (Meg Davis) From: MikeOQuinn Date: 04 Jan 03 - 11:01 PM Hrmmm... *rummages through his Corsairs shanty library* There's the "Irish Rover", a wonderfully punny song. Then there's Tom Lewis' "Sailor's Prayer" (Cho: "Lord above, send down a dove, with beak as sharp as razors/ to cut the throats of them there blokes, what sells bad beer to sailors") There's also "Swing a Cat" (no lyrics in DB, but a Req in the forums, reproduced below for your convenience), with cats and rats both included (not to mention sailors, flea-ridden beasts that they are :) SWING A CAT Meg Davis It was just after midnight that I heard the captain shout "Curse the Devil! Behold! There are rats about!" They were crawling up the gangplank, they were climbing up the sheets Every sailor had a hundred snapping at his feet "What can we do?" cried the sailors as the rats began to dance "It's a hopeless situation, but we have one chance. Every man go ashore, searching this way and that. Don't ever show your face until you find a cat." Cho: Swing it high, swing it low, if it hollers let it go If it's down, there's only one way to take care of that You must grab it by its feet, swing it high, swing it neat You can save a life, at that, if you can swing a cat So we sprang to the docks and we bolted through the town, Every young man among us searching up and down Three hundred sailors running loose, what do you think of that? And every salty sailor surely found a cat Back to the docks we came running with our prizes, There were cats of many colors, there were cats of many sizes When they rats saw us coming, they all began to shout "Curse the devil! Behold! There are cats about!" So we turned our kitties loose upon that unsuspecting horde, While the rats by the thousands scrambled overboard They were swept out to sea, every germy little tail And the sun rose upon us as we hoisted sail Now we sail the mighty ocean, and we're such a happy crew With our kitties here to help us, there is nothing much to do If a cat has two fishies, he will surely give you one, And he'll sing you off to sleep when your day is done Heh... my cat heard that song start, and bolted to the other room... I think she's learning. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: JennyO Date: 04 Jan 03 - 10:59 PM I hit the Submit Message button last night, then went to bed. At some point I woke up and thought - "Dead Puppies" weren't at sea - they're gonna shoot me down in flames AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!! So now you've forced me to do this......... I didn't wanna do it..........honest!!!!! When you throw them off a boat They don't swim and they don't float Dead puppies....aren't much fun. No animals were harmed in the making of this song - I promise!!!! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: SINSULL Date: 04 Jan 03 - 10:34 PM Unsinkable or unsingeable????? Or unsingable? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Dead Horse Date: 04 Jan 03 - 09:19 PM What do you mean *They don't fit in*? At 36 28 3/6d a pound, they fit. Goats? Billy Riley? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 04 Jan 03 - 07:17 PM Thanks, Dead Horse, for the chapter and verse on "Derby Ram", "Old Horse" and "Old Moke." And here's a bone for your terrior! I've been reconsidering mermaids/mermen and they simply don't fit in. There're half people and half fish and either way would be disqualified. How about a nice goat song? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Dead Horse Date: 04 Jan 03 - 06:01 PM Charley Noble: Derby Ram (as shanty)given in Hugill (Shanties from the Seven Seas)p328, collected by Colcord (as forebitter) Hugill states pumps & sometimes capstan. (Never uses it meself, arghh) *Old Horse* (Sailors Grace)tradition was well known & documented, and the barrel used to store the beef in was known as a *horse cask* which is another reason for sailors to suppose he was eating Dobbin for dinner;-) Old Moke definately referred to negroes, not donkeys. And of course Donkey Riding itself had nothing to do with sailors enjoying a run along the beach astride any animals! (tho I have been known to suggest this, just to see what reaction I get from an audience) Now then, hows about another doggy offering, Boney was a warrior, (a warrior, a terrier?) .............running away, giggling insanely. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 04 Jan 03 - 04:44 PM Whew! For a while there, Linn, I thought you were going to suggest that the survivors floated away in the trunks... Nice one, Sinsull! And, Keith, thanks for reminding me of "Stanley The Rat"; it certainly belongs in this collection. I'm now laborously typing out the verses to "The Fate of the Royal Tar", the saga of the circus steamer that burnt and sank. It's all terribly long, totally unsingable, BUT it's got all them animals in it, few of which survive. Cheerily, Charley Noble, who's admiring his freshly plowed driveway |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Bat Goddess Date: 04 Jan 03 - 04:00 PM Someone else will have to write the song (Charley, you're good at that), but author Rumer Godden told a story about her father aboard a ship loaded with elephants. This was before the days of radio or other communication and could have resulted in the ship going down (in the Indian Ocean as I remember) with no one knowing why. Anywho, the elephants all started swaying from side to side in unison in their stalls. The ship was saved when someone (I think her father) switched every other elephant around in their stalls, thus counteracting the sway of the others. Linn |
Subject: Lyr Add: SALT HORSE From: SINSULL Date: 04 Jan 03 - 03:12 PM And still another variant of "Old Horse". This comes from my Secret Santa gift, "50 Sailor Songs Or Chanties", Londin, Boosey & Co. (no author; no date). Notes as appear in the book. SALT HORSE Salt Horse, Salt Horse, both near and far You're food for every hard work'd tar. In strongest brine you have been sunk, Until as hard and coarse as Junk.* To eat such tough and wretched fare Would whiten e'en a nigger's hair. Salt Horse, Salt Horse, what brought you here? Salt Horse, Salt Horse, we'd have you know That to the Galley** you must go; The cook without a sign of grief Will boil you down, and call you beef. And, we poor sailors standing near, Must eat you though you look so queer; Salt Horse, Salt Horse, what brought you here? *Old condemned rope **The cookhouse on shipboard |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 04 Jan 03 - 02:53 PM Rodent Mariners reminds me of Stanley The Rat, also by Cyril Tawny |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: mg Date: 04 Jan 03 - 02:50 PM the camp song..God said to Noah going to build me an arky arky..build it out of cedar? Hickory? barkey children of the Lord the animals they came by ones and toosies..elephants and kangaroosies.. mg |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: Charley Noble Date: 04 Jan 03 - 02:01 PM JennyO- no points for "animals at sea" as it stands but maybe we can adapt this one for warping the ship into the dock. It's definitely belongs in the "warped" sea shanty category. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge From: JennyO Date: 04 Jan 03 - 01:24 PM "Dead Puppies" - The words I know are somewhat different from the ones on the digitrad: Dead puppies aren't much fun When you call them they don't come Dead puppies aren't much fun. When you pick them up they sag When you go for walks they drag Dead puppies aren't much fun. that's all I know and probably just as well! |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE RODENT MARINERS From: Charley Noble Date: 04 Jan 03 - 01:12 PM Sinsull- "Cowardly Act" listed above is the title to my song about the cow that sank a Japanese fishing trawler. Here's the lyrics to a song about sea rats by the same composer as the one I got "Yangtse River Shanty" from: By Hamish MacLaren, Sailor with Banjo, © 1930 Adapted by Charlie Ipcar Tune adapted from: "Blow the Candle Out" THE RODENT MARINERS Dm-------Am----Dm We are the rodent ma-ri-ne-ers, Am/Dm---Am As nobody needs be told, ------------Dm----Am--------Dm For there's no mis-taking our nau-ti-cal airs, Am/Dm---Am-----Dm Our rolling eyes so bold; Dm-------------------Am There's never a ship leaves English ground, ------Dm----------------Am From Liverpool Docks to Plymouth Sound, ----Dm---Am---Dm For Frisco Bay or Bombay bound, --------------Am--------Dm But we have free run of her hold! We march aboard in companies, All in the dead of night, Over the hawsers from the quays In the shadow of the watch lamplight; Each roving rat his ship will choose, From nose to nose we pass the news Of cargoes, destination, crews, And none can us affright. Each roving rat his ship will choose, From nose to nose we pass the news Of cargoes, destination, crews, And none can us affright. We'll eat like kings once we set sail, Each vessel leaving land, A wandering larder which entails A feast for every hand; Maize, apples, salmon, barley, rice, Nutmegs, olives, South Sea spice, Meats and India merchandise, And all at our command! We know the ports of all the world All warehouses, all quays, All islets coral-ringed and pearled, The Blue Hesperides; And men may search until they die, And men may blow great fleets sky-high – But rats alone can hold for aye The Freedom of the Seas! And men may search until they die, And men may blow great fleets sky-high – But rats alone can hold for aye The Freedom of the Seas! This is the kind of ballad I'm really looking for. Cheerily, Charley Noble, and it's still snowing! |
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