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Subject: Lyr Req: Tune too...'Spotted Dick' anyone???
From: GUEST,Vixen @ work
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 10:59 AM

This one came up in conversation as we were eating our figgy pudding new year's eve...

Anybody got the lyrics? I couldn't find 'em in the DT, and, while we have several threads where this delicacy is DISCUSSED and its recipe promulgated, no one posted the lyrics...

Somebody at FSGW Getaway had me in hysterics singing it in the Gym...

V


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tune too...'Spotted Dick' anyone???
From: Chip2447
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 02:19 PM

The only one that I know of makes the rounds of local Renaissance Festivals.
The pudding song.

"Oh, I'm getting a bit tonight tonight,
I'm getting a bit tonight.
Me mother says I must be quick
if I'm to have the spotted dick.
I luvs me roly poly it fills me with delight.
I haven't had any since Easter but,
I'm getting a bit tonight.
Ya da da dee di di....."
at which point the song is generally interrupted for a toast..."A TOAST!!!" or a bawdy limerick.

THE PUDDING SONG

Chip2447


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tune too...'Spotted Dick' anyone???
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 02:42 PM

Looking through the Bodleian broadsides, I found a song about an orange that was to be sung to "The Pudding," date 1689. The Bodelian doesn't have it. Does anyone know lyrics to "The Pudding" of this date?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tune too...'Spotted Dick' anyone???
From: GUEST,Vixen@work
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 03:51 PM

I dare not play the mp3 here in the office, but the lyrics you've quoted look like what I remember hearing...

Many thanks...

If someone doesn't post the lyrics, I'll do it eventually!

V


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tune too...'Spotted Dick' anyone???
From: GUEST,Peter from Essex
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 04:27 PM

Recorded by the wonderful Louie Fuller
Green Grows Laurel (various artists) - Veteran (can't be arsed to look up the number)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tune too...'Spotted Dick' anyone???
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 04:32 PM

The Pudding appeared in Pills to Purge Melancholy,1719-20 vol.III, set to a tune also known as With a Fading (Claude M. Simpson, The British Broadside Ballad and Its Music, 1966, pp 792-795. That tune subsequently became known also as The Pudding. Not related to Spotted Dick, of course, but very much the same joke.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tune too...'Spotted Dick' anyone???
From: MMario
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 08:20 PM

With a fading is tune b527 on Bruce Olson's site.

Ballad tunes


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Subject: ADD: The Pudding (from Pills to Purge Melancholy)
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 10:29 PM

It's not terribly edifying, but here it is...


A SONG (THE PUDDING)

From Twelve years old, I oft have been told,
A Pudding it was a delicate bit;
I can Remember my Mother has said,
What a Delight she had to be Fed
With a Pudding.

Thirteen being past, I long'd for to taste,
What Nature or Art, could make it so sweet;
For many gay Lasses, about my Age,
Perpetually speak on't, that puts me in a rage
For a Pudding.

Now at Fifteen, I often have seen,
Most Maids to admire it so;
That their Humour and Pride is to say,
O what a Delight they have for to play
With a Pudding.

When I am among, some Wives that are young,
Who think they shall never give it due praise;
It is sweet, It is good, It is pleasant still,
They cry, they think they shall ne'er have their fill
Of a Pudding.

The greater sort of the Town and the Court,
When met, their Tongues being tipp'd with Wine;
How merry and Jocund their Tattles do run,
To tell how they ended, and how they begun
With a Pudding.

Some Ancient Wives, who most of their Lives,
Have daily tasted of the like Food;
Now for want of Supplies, do Swear and Grumble,
That still they're able enough to Mumble
A Pudding.

Now, now I find, Cat will to kind,
Since all my Heart, and Blood is on fire;
I am resolv'd whatever comes on't,
My Fancy shall no longer suffer the want
Of a Pudding.

For I'll to John, who says he has one,
That's cramm'd as close as a Cracker or Squib;
Who ever is telling me when we do meet,
Of the wishing desires and sweetnes they get
In a Pudding.

It thought at first, it never would burst,
It was hard as Grissel or Bone;
But by the Rowling and Trowling about,
How kindly and sweetly the Marrow flew out
Of his Pudding.

Well, since I ne'er was fed with such geer,
Until my John did prove so kind;
I made a request to prepare again,
That I might continue in Love with the strain
Of his Pudding.

Then straight he brought, what I little thought,
Could ever have been in its former plight;
He Rumbl'd and Jumbl'd me o'er, and o'er,
Till I found he had almost wasted the store
Of his Pudding.

Then the other Mess, I begg'd him to dress,
Which by my Assistance was brought to pass;
But by his dulness and moving so slow,
I quickly perceiv'd the stuffing grew low
In his Pudding.

Tho' he grew cold, my Stomach did hold,
With Vigour to relish the other bit;
But all he could do, could not furnish again,
For he swore he had left little more than the Skin
Of his Pudding.


From Thomas D'Urfey, Pills to Purge Melancholy, vol.II p.72, 1719-20.

The tune was earlier known as With A Fading. Claude M. Simpson, The British Broadside Ballad and Its Music, 1966, p.792, comments:

"In Beaumont's The Knight of the Burning Pestle, IV, i, the Citizen's Wife says, "I will haue him dance Fading; Fading is a fine Iigge Ile assure you Gentlemen." E. W. Naylor, in his Shakespeare and Music, rev. ed., 1931, identifies "fading" with "Rincce Fadda", an Irish country dance. In The Winter's Tale, IV, iv, a servant describes the ballad wares of Autolycus as including love songs with "delicate burdens of dildos and fadings" - a bit of irony, surely, for if those words seemed meaningless to the innocent, they were, nonetheless, indelicately and equivocally used in ballad refrains."



Here's the tune (same as B527 referred to above); the mode information is copied from Bruce Olson's site.

X:1
T:The Pudding (With a Fading)
B:Pills To Purge Melancholy, II, p.72, 1719-20
N:Tune possibly from Rince Fada?
L:1/4
Q:1/4=120
M:6/4
K:D mixolydian
D|G2DG2A|B3/2c/BA2F|
w:From twelve years old, I oft have been told, A
GGDG2d|e3/2f/gf3|
w:pud-ding it was a del-i-cate
gfedcB|ABcB3|e3d3/2c/B|
w:bit; I can re-mem-ber my mo-ther has said, What a de-
A2DG3/2A/B|B3/2A/GBd2|]
w:light she had to be fed: with a pud-ding.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tune too...'Spotted Dick' anyone???
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 10:40 PM

Raisins on the counter, lots of rice left over from a curry, so tomorrow I make rice pudding. I am going to try the bake method. If it doesn't work, the birds and neighborhood hare (garbage must be good) will have a feast.
Malcolm, thanks for the tune. As you say, the lyrics ain't much.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tune too...'Spotted Dick' anyone???
From: Zorg
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 07:16 AM

The version I know and sing (unaccompanied) can be found on a 'Veteran' C.D. WHEN THE MAY IS ALL IN BLOOM by Louise Fuller, but appears to have two lines missing in the last verse.

Tonight I feel so happy, tonight I feel so gay,
Mother's got a roly-poly pudding on the way,
I saw her put the currents in, the suet in as well.
Tonight I'm having 'Spotty-Dick', this story I must tell,
I'm having a bit tonight, I'm having a bit tonight
My mother said I must be quick to get a bit of Spotty-Dick
I like my roly-poly it fills me with delight
I haven't had any since Easter but I'm having a bit tonight
Tra-la-la-la.

Now there is my girl friend, she's such a lovely girl
Her eyes are like the setting sun, her teeth are white as pearl,
There's only one thing wrong with her she isn't very fat,
Tonight she's having Spotty-Dick, so what will she think of that.
Cos she's having a bit tonight, she's having a bit tonight,
Her mother says she must be quick to get a bit of Spotty-Dick,
She likes her roly-Poly it fills her with delight,
She hasn't had any since Easter, but she's having a bit tonight.

Then there's dear old grandpa, he seldom gets enough,
Although he's nearly ninety he's a bugger for his duff
*-----
*-----
So he's having a bit tonight, he's having a bit tonight
His mother says he must be quick to get his bit of Spotty-Dick
He likes his roly-poly it fill him with delight,
Although he's nearly ninety, he's having a bit tonight

                (Still searching for two lines)12.13 GMT


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tune too...'Spotted Dick' anyone???
From: GUEST,vixen@work
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 08:11 AM

Well! The Pudding is amusing--but it's not the one I'm looking for! The lyrics from Zorg are the ones I recall, though there was a verse about a vicar too, and maybe a couple of other "respectable" types.

Many thanks!

V


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Subject: Lyr Add: SPOTTED DICK (a music hall song)
From: GUEST,NSC - George Henderson
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 11:52 AM

SPOTTED DICK.

Origin - Music Hall - A song about a steamed pudding using flour currants and suet.

Last 2 verses - Geoff Hardman - Anglesey.


Tonight I am so happy, Tonight I am so gay (Old meaning)
Me mothers got a rolly poly pudding on the way
I saw her put the currants in and the lumps of fat
Tonight we'll have some Spotted Dick well what do you think of that,

Chorus,

We're having a bit tonight tonight we're having a bit tonight
Me mother says I must be quick to get me bit of Spotted Dick
I loves me rolly poly it fills me with delight
We haven't had any since Christmas but we're having a bit tonight.

Then there is me Uncle Bill and me Auntie Nell
Then there is the lodger he likes his bit as well
Then there is me ould granda' he's really very tough
Although he's nearly ninety he's a bugger for his dough (duff)

Chorus

Then there is me brother Joe he lives in London town,
He hasn't had a bit for years it's really got him down.
But now he's getting married he's going to be alright,
'Cause Josephine his girlfriend says he'll get a bit each night

Chorus

Then there is me sister Liz, she's a lovely girl,
Her hair is like the waving corn her teeth are like the pearl
There's only one thing wrong with her she isn't very fat.
Tonight I'll give her Spotted Dick, well what do you think of that.

Chorus

Now little sister Lizzie she really loves her dough(duff)
And since she started getting it she just can't get enough
And little brother Willie, he is an awful brat,
And if you do not watch him well he gives it to the cat

Chorus

Me mother's rolly poly, it is the very best
It really fills your belly and puts hairs upon your chest.
So if you're feeling poorly, or if you're feeling sick
There's nothing better for you than a bit of Spotted Dick

Chorus


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tune too...'Spotted Dick' anyone???
From: GUEST,Aerosol
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 01:51 AM

When I was very young, I vaugely remember this being occasionally sung on the radio (or the wireless as it was often referred to in those days) in the Sunday lunchtime "Billy Cotton Band Show" variety programme, which often had old "Music Hall" songs included. Obviously I did not understand any Double Entendres contained within it but just thought it funny - as one of the common Sunday lunch time deserts was just that - home made steamed Spotted Dick with either Golden Syrup or Bird's custard.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tune too...'Spotted Dick' anyone???
From: melodeonboy
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:05 PM

It's a cracking song. I learnt it from my uncle and it's now part of my main repertoire.

The verse about the vicar that "Vixen" wanted goes as follows:

The vicar of our local church, he has but one desire,
He likes to warm his roly-poly pudding by the fire,
He wraps it up in grease-proof, he jumps and shouts with glee,
And then he makes a pig of hisself and sings "Abide With Me".

The title of this thread also asks for the tune. I'm not so good at writing down tunes, either in "proper" music or tabs, but if you're still stuck a few days from now, I'll have a bash at doing it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tune too...'Spotted Dick' anyone???
From: GUEST,Barrie Roberts
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:24 PM

Glad to see this old favourite appear on the Mudcat. You should however beware of believing that the sexual connotation of 'gay' is modern -- it isn't. In low use it used to mean 'randy' or 'promiscuous'. 'Gaying pintle' was the male member and 'gay' as a verb simply meant to 'fornicate'. The Victorian whores' come-on was 'Are you gay?' and, until the early 20th Century prostitutes were referred to as 'gay women'.
Nevertheless, enjoy your roly-poly!


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Subject: Tune Add: SPOTTED DICK (from Geoff Hardman)
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 10:41 PM

As far as I can remember, the tune sung by Geoff Hardman, mentioned by George Henderson above, goes like this:

X:1
T:Spotted Dick
M:4/4
K:C
G, |C3/C C3/E G3/G G3/E | F3/F A3/F G3 G|
    G3/G ^F3/G A3/G E3/C | D3/D ^C3/D E3/D B,3/G,|
    C3/C C3/E G3/G z E | F3/F A3/F G3 G|
    G3/G G3/G G3/G G3/G | G3/G A3/B c3 |]


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Subject: Tune Add: I'M HAVING A BIT TONIGHT
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 05:58 AM

Here's my memory of Louie Fuller's tune. I haven't got the recording any more, so I can't check it, so if anyone can please post corrections. From memory I think her rhythm was like F2 D in triplets rather than F>D in dotted rhythm, but I may be wrong. My transcription of the words doesn't include the tra-la-la-la at the end, which suggests it may be omitted from the recording, but she certainly sang it live on the various times I saw her do the song. (I also have some slight variations in the words as posted by George (Zorg) above).

Mick



X:1
T:I'm Having A Bit Tonight
S:Louis Fuller
Z:Mick Pearce (from memory)
L:1/8
M:6/8
K:D
A|F2 D D2 F|A A2- A2 A|G2 B d2 B|A3-A2
w:To-night I feel so hap-py,_ to-night I feel so gay_
A|G2 G G2 G|F2 F F2 F|E E2 E2 F|E3-E2
w:My mo-ther's got a ro-ly po-ly pud-ding on the way_
A|D2 D D2 F|A A2 A2 A|G B2 d2 B|A3 z2
w:I saw her put the cur-rants in the su-et in as well
F|(4:6E F ^G A|B ^G2 F2 E|(4:6A A B =c|c3 z2
w:To-night I'm hav-ing spot-ted dick, this sto-ry I must tell
A|DDD D2 F|A3-A2 A|GGB d2 B|A3-A2
w:I'm hav-ing a bit to-night,_ I'm hav-ing a bit to-night_
A|G2 G G2 G|F2 F F2 F|E2 F E2 D|C E2 A2
w:My moth-er says I must be quick to get my bit of spot-ted Dick
A|D2 D D2 F|A A2-A2 A|G2 B d2 B|A3-A2
w:I likes my ro-ly po-ly,_ it fills me with de-light_
A|AAA AAA|B2 A A2 A|BBB c2 c|d6||
w:I have-n't had an-y since East-er though I'm hav-ing a bit to-night.
d2 B3|e3 A3|d3 B3|e3 A3|]
w:Tra-la-la-la, Tra-la-la-la


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Spotted Dick
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 16 Sep 09 - 10:49 AM

from the BBC Word of Mouth message board (this thread)


Tonight I feel so happy, tonight I feel so gay,
My mother's got a roly-poly pudding on the way.
I saw her put the currants in, the suet in as well.
Tonight I'm having Spotted Dick, this story I must tell.

I'm having a bit at Easter, I'm having a bit tonight,
Me mother says I must be quick if I'm to get a Spotted Dick.
I loves me roly-poly, it fills me with delight:
I haven't had any since Easter, so I'm having a bit tonight.

Stringbag Sal's my girlfriend, she's such a lovely girl,
Her eyes are like the setting sun, her teeth as white as pearl.
There's just one thing that's wrong with her, she isn't very fat:
S-o-o-o-o-o Tonight she'll have my Spotted Dick, what'll she think of that?

'Cos she's having a bit at Easter, she's having a bit tonight,
Her mother says she must be quick to get her bit of Spotted Dick.
She loves her roly-poly, it fills her with delight:
She hasn't had any since Easter but she's having a bit tonight.

Then there's dear old grandpa, he seldom gets enough.
Although he's nearly ninety, he's a b*gg*r for his Duff.
So he's having a bit at Easter, he's having a bit tonight,
Me grandma says he's lucky, 'cos he's having a bit tonight.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Spotted Dick
From: Nessie
Date: 16 Sep 09 - 11:34 AM

I don't know if Vixen is still around, but she was looking for 'English Puddings' by Mike Sparks I think

Where are the puddings we used to enjoy
The ones I had when once a boy
With custard rich and custard thick
On baked jam roll and spotted dick
With custard rich and custard thick
On baked jam roll and spotted dick

Where are the pies we used to see
With fruit from every bush and tree
With crusts that melted in your mouth
Food that united north and south (rpt last 2 lines)

And rich rice puddings, treacle tart
Enough to gladden any heart
And apple dumplings big and round
The ones which weighed nigh half a pound (rpt last 2 lines)

And lardy cake the country's wealth
We're told is dangerous to our health
And how often does a menu say
There's bread pudding for you today (rpt last 2 lines)

Our bakewell puddings take their part
Or try perhaps some rhubarb tart
Or maybe bread and butter pud
To perk you up and do you good (rpt last 2 lines)

So shun French trifles and sorbet
Tell them to stuff their creme brulee
Stand on your dignity and say
An English pudding for me today (rpt last 2 lines)


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Spotted Dick
From: Nessie
Date: 16 Sep 09 - 12:29 PM

Duh, note to self: read full thread before posting. Still Mike's song is fun!


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Spotted Dick
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Mar 14 - 07:06 AM

Thanks for this. I saw the song on Saturday at teh Leeds City Varieties "The Good Old Days" and thought that it was so marvelous I have to learn it! I'll perform it with my banjolele

Clarice Wokes/Lydia Queen,the Ukulele Pirate Queen


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