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Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)

Brían 26 Feb 03 - 07:13 AM
Charley Noble 10 Feb 03 - 08:31 PM
Barry Finn 10 Feb 03 - 08:23 PM
Bat Goddess 10 Feb 03 - 06:48 PM
Brían 10 Feb 03 - 07:00 AM
Bat Goddess 09 Feb 03 - 05:27 PM
Jeri 09 Feb 03 - 03:41 PM
Brían 09 Feb 03 - 02:24 PM
SINSULL 09 Feb 03 - 01:22 PM
Jeri 09 Feb 03 - 10:41 AM
Charley Noble 09 Feb 03 - 10:20 AM
Just another Dave 09 Feb 03 - 09:47 AM
GUEST 09 Feb 03 - 09:43 AM
curmudgeon 09 Feb 03 - 09:25 AM
Brían 09 Feb 03 - 01:05 AM
Charley Noble 08 Feb 03 - 10:34 PM
SINSULL 08 Feb 03 - 09:15 PM
Charley Noble 08 Feb 03 - 12:07 PM
Jeri 08 Feb 03 - 11:42 AM
SINSULL 08 Feb 03 - 11:09 AM
curmudgeon 08 Feb 03 - 08:53 AM
Charley Noble 07 Feb 03 - 07:11 PM
Barry Finn 07 Feb 03 - 06:28 PM
Naemanson 07 Feb 03 - 12:51 PM
GUEST,Julia 07 Feb 03 - 12:23 PM
Naemanson 07 Feb 03 - 11:56 AM
GUEST,Julia 07 Feb 03 - 11:43 AM
GUEST,Julia 07 Feb 03 - 11:30 AM
Charley Noble 07 Feb 03 - 11:03 AM
Jeri 07 Feb 03 - 10:54 AM
Charley Noble 07 Feb 03 - 09:56 AM
Bat Goddess 07 Feb 03 - 08:43 AM
Uncle Jaque 07 Feb 03 - 12:46 AM
Jeri 06 Feb 03 - 09:51 PM
GUEST,Julia 06 Feb 03 - 09:40 PM
SINSULL 06 Feb 03 - 08:52 PM
Jeri 06 Feb 03 - 08:00 PM
GUEST,Julia 06 Feb 03 - 07:45 PM
Naemanson 06 Feb 03 - 10:24 AM
curmudgeon 05 Feb 03 - 06:33 PM
Just another Dave 05 Feb 03 - 02:25 PM
Naemanson 05 Feb 03 - 09:55 AM
Charley Noble 05 Feb 03 - 09:02 AM
Jeri 04 Feb 03 - 10:22 PM
SINSULL 04 Feb 03 - 09:59 PM
Bat Goddess 04 Feb 03 - 09:32 PM
Brían 04 Feb 03 - 07:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Brían
Date: 26 Feb 03 - 07:13 AM

I just thought I'd refresh this to say I'm looking forward to the next singaround on March 8!

Brían


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 10 Feb 03 - 08:31 PM

Barry-

Sad to say I never heard Bellamy sing "Roll Down." I do have Cyrill Tawney singing it on THE TRANSPORTS CD, and James Keelaghan on one of his early CD's which probably was the major influence on how our Roll & Go crew sings it.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Barry Finn
Date: 10 Feb 03 - 08:23 PM

Lost my timming, hell I lost my breath, yes mean trick but cute. Liam's Brother (Dan Milner) did a great recording of 'Harp Without a Crown' with Bob Conroy on his 'Irish Ballards & Songs Of The Sea'. Charlie, that's the way Peter Bellany sang it, high harmony on the chorus & all. I recorded him singing it at a concert but more I can remember his energy. It was another great session. Thanks, Tom & Lin


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 10 Feb 03 - 06:48 PM

And I just checked: the recording that I have of "The Harp Without the Crown" is Stuart Frank's "Songs of Sea and Shore" (which I have on LP).

Linn


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Brían
Date: 10 Feb 03 - 07:00 AM

Thanks, Linn. I wuz embarrased to ask what the chorus was.

Brían


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 09 Feb 03 - 05:27 PM

The version of "The Harp Without the Crown" that I've been, uh, "learning" for any number of years now doesn't actually mention the name of the "Yankee ship flying the green burgee. The words I have are different from the DT and I think I got them from a recording by Stuart Frank (but I'd have to check -- I didn't actually put that information in my file copy).

My version of "Sandgate Girl's Lament" is mostly from the singing of Betty and Norman MacDonald, with a couple lines from Joyce and Danny McLeod and a reference to The Highlevel Ranters' version (which configures the verses a bit differently, doubling up verses). There -- does that confuse everybody? It's a wonderful song -- I get comments on it every time I sing it.

"He's an ugaly body, a boobaly body
An ill-faced hideous loon.
Since I married a keelman
All my good days are done."

Linn


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Jeri
Date: 09 Feb 03 - 03:41 PM

Hey Brían, that's Just Another Dave's website. Must poke around the rest of it sometime.


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Brían
Date: 09 Feb 03 - 02:24 PM

Thanks, Just Another Dave. I stumbled across that site last night but didn't see the obvious. I can probably get the book at the local library.

Joe heaney calls the ship the Thomas O'Brien. The melody is similar, but the chorus is more or less the same.

I have been listening to the tape I made this morning. Bat Goddesses song about marrying the Keelman was great. I thought Barry's entrance was superb, considering he had posted to say he wouldn't come. I noticed his son was doing some fine drawing in the corner when I walked over.

Brían


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: SINSULL
Date: 09 Feb 03 - 01:22 PM

A Mondegreen - I thought "Just Another Dave" was "Just Another Day". No wonder my line "...on the Grey Flannel Line" fell on deaf ears. My favorite moment - "Roll, Alabama, Roll", booming verses and full chorus. Neat!


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Jeri
Date: 09 Feb 03 - 10:41 AM

In case anyone's interested (since a couple people asked where I got the song), the lyrics to "The Luckiest Sailor" are here: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=35861#492452.
Author Linda Kelly (AKA Ickle Dorritt) posted the background in the same thread, here: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=35861#498747
Here's a MIDI

Dave, it was a pleasure to have you here and I hope you can make it again!

Some people say they're coming and don't show up, but I prefer Barry's version - saying he's not coming then just blowing through the door. It was my turn to sing when Barry showed up. I was thinking about what I wanted to do, when Tom saw him walking towards us and said "Barry, sing something!" Barry launched into a song about a second later, before he even sat down.


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 09 Feb 03 - 10:20 AM

I was particularly pleased to hear Linn sing "Race of Long Ago" (thread just refreshed), from a poem by Cicely Fox Smith ("Racing Clippers"),
as adapted by Bob Roberts and sung by Dave Webber & Anni Fentiman. The tune really brings this old poem to life.

I responded with my adaptation of C. Fox Smith's "Flying-Fish Sailor" which I found difficult to balance between my voice and banjo without a sound system; it's a nice driving version and I have to figure out a running chorus to bring other people in.

Barry did show up, or perhaps it was a clone but a very convincing one, and demonstrated how Peter Bellamy's "Roll Down" could be brought closer to a traditional shanty, despite the efforts of our chorus to retain the more contemporary interpretation. What a dynamic tension!

It was good to hear Jean singing again; haven't heard her since the Mystic Sea Music Festival.

And Mudcat's Just Another Dave did some fine work singing, backed up with his banjo; I believe he gets credit for driving the longest distance. Next time, Dave, why don't you shanghai some of them other CT shantysingers to help you drive on the way back?

Thanks again, Tom, for making this fine session possible.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Just another Dave
Date: 09 Feb 03 - 09:47 AM

oops !-- musta lost my cookie

DAve


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Feb 03 - 09:43 AM

Brian,

Try this link -- scroll to the second article on the page:

http://hometown.aol.com/shanteyman/page2.html


All:

Had a great time !! NIce to be able to connect faces with Mudcat names. Hoope We can do it again. If not, hope to see you all at Mystic for the Seamusic fest.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: curmudgeon
Date: 09 Feb 03 - 09:25 AM

It was a grand time indeed. in addition to the usual suspects, we were joined by first-timers Tyler Buck, Brian Marston, Jean Jennings, Steve ?, and Mudcatter Just another Dave, who drove all the way from Connecticut.

Less than four weeks to the next session on 8 March. Hope to see all of you and more at that time -- Tom


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Brían
Date: 09 Feb 03 - 01:05 AM

Well I must say I enjoyed myself. I am looking around at the info on THE HARP WITHOUT THE CROWN. Joe Heaney says the name of the boat was the Dennis O'Brien. The harp without the crown was the flag it flew. I'd like to know about any books on the subject since Naemanson and others affirmed that the boat was built in Bath.

I am going to try to learn at least one shanty for the next one. I wasnt to see if anyone can prove I was just making up the words to that song about poor ol' Mrs. Clougherty dying all by herself away from her own people and not even having a proper wake because the wind was blowing for three days.

Brían


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 08 Feb 03 - 10:34 PM

I's back home. Had a great time singing with everyone and now it's to bed!

zzzzzz,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Feb 03 - 09:15 PM

I was supposed to meet Jeri at 12 for lunch with Brett. Brett ran late and so we arrived at 1:05, about 5 minutes before Jeri.

I didn't know quite what to make of it. Brett showed up at my door in crotchless jeans. He was walking funny to disguise the problem but between the icy path and icy blasts... So we took a detour to a shopping mall to get him decent again. I bought some new sneakers and we were late but modest and socially acceptable. Jeri, on the other hand, had no excuse. She was just plain late

Good friends, good music. Barry Finn made it with his son and was invited to sing breathlessly as he sat down. Never saw Barry lose his timing before. Mean trick.

We raised a few glasses, hauled a number of bowlines, sank a few ships, broke a few hearts, and went home quite satisfied.


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 08 Feb 03 - 12:07 PM

Jeri-

How long does it take you to get from Portsmouth to Portland, more than an hour?

Oh, do bring your fiddle.

The Roll & Go van leaves Portland around 2 pm and should reach Portsmouth around 3 pm and then we'll take another 15 or so minutes to find parking. See you all around 3:30 pm.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Feb 03 - 11:42 AM

Jeez, Barry! And I was gonna sing "Carmelita, haul that bowline, the sun is sinkin' down...

Sinsull, methinks if you're posting at 11:09, you aren't gonna get here early!


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Feb 03 - 11:09 AM

Damn Barry. You will be missed. Tinker may be here for next month's. See you then?


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: curmudgeon
Date: 08 Feb 03 - 08:53 AM

You will be missed, Barry. But there's always next month and many more to come.

See the rest of you this afternoon -- Tom


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 07 Feb 03 - 07:11 PM

Barry-

Sorry to hear that. Are you sure your sister-in-law wouldn't enjoy experiencing the shanty swap? We can be very good, errr, well-behaved, well, some of us....maybe.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Barry Finn
Date: 07 Feb 03 - 06:28 PM

S.O.B. just found out that cause of the weather what we had planed for tonight (visiting my sister-in-law from San Fran.) has changed to tomorrow afternoon. Have a hell've sing. Barry


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Naemanson
Date: 07 Feb 03 - 12:51 PM

Hum, Hoom, digeridoo, a hasty name for an instrument that plays long ent notes.


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: GUEST,Julia
Date: 07 Feb 03 - 12:23 PM

It lives here Brett- Actually he has been practicing making ent-like noises on it- come if you dare


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Naemanson
Date: 07 Feb 03 - 11:56 AM

Will he bring his 6 foot thingie to the Middle Earth dinner?


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: GUEST,Julia
Date: 07 Feb 03 - 11:43 AM

Fred says it's the painting of the snake along the side that makes it really interesting... Oh dear.


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: GUEST,Julia
Date: 07 Feb 03 - 11:30 AM

Well, the secret to playing "that thingy" is embouchure and circular breathing.......! And you thought I just played the harp...... I'll leave now


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 07 Feb 03 - 11:03 AM

LOL

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Feb 03 - 10:54 AM

To the tune of "Five Foot Flirt":

And can you explain last Saturday
In a session in Old Portsmouth town
When Jim Fred brough his 6 foot thingie along
And found it quite hard to sit down
An instrument that big and stiff is grand, but
It was only a digerido
And the thought we all had, was he wasn't so bad
But he shoulda been kissin' you

You've a 6 foot thing...


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 07 Feb 03 - 09:56 AM

Hmmm! Maybe we could add some verses about Fred's "6 foot thingy" to one of them old navy drinking songs, or one of them pumping shanties.

This shanty swap shows promise of rivaling one of Dr. Dogbody's famous sessions. Now how did that man lose his leg?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 07 Feb 03 - 08:43 AM

28" bodhran? I think that's still smaller than the bodhran-like drums the Throat Singers of Tuva use.

Julia -- it's a matter of space, not taste. And Friday night we ran out of room even before two harps showed up.

Linn


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Uncle Jaque
Date: 07 Feb 03 - 12:46 AM

Regrets, Mateys, but Aunt Mahtha & me is to attend a banquet in Portland Saturday Evening.

I surely hopes to make it to at least one of these sessions before Summer, though!

Have a ball!


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Feb 03 - 09:51 PM

I have a didge - can't play it though. It might be interesting to have one in a session. We've got a bunch of bodhrans. (What's the name for a group of 'em? A boistrosity of bodhrans?) I ain't no durned VYO-whatsit. I play like I drive - never turn around when I've gone too far.

So you and Fred are coming Julia? Hope so!


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: GUEST,Julia
Date: 06 Feb 03 - 09:40 PM

jeri- that'll teach you to use the whole bow! What are you, one of the VYO-LYN- ists? Seriously, it must have been a mess. Any one should use discretion in such a situation.Glad I wasn' t there. The ironic part is that, with harps anyway, unless you have an exceptional instrument that really speaks well (as mine does) and you 're an "assertive" player (which I am) nobody can hear you in a session anyway! So they take up a lot of space fer nuthin'.... Bongos- now there's thought- smaller than a harp...
Now how would you like Fred to bring his 28" bodhran? or how about his 6 foot thingy- I mean didgereedoo (Didgeree- don't) Julia


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: SINSULL
Date: 06 Feb 03 - 08:52 PM

And to think I could have shown up with my half price bongo drums from Ames "Going Out Of Business' sale. Another opportunity missed.


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Feb 03 - 08:00 PM

Julia, get about 20 people with instruments together. Then have a session. In an elevator. Stop at the 4th floor and add 2 full sized harps and put 'em right smack in front of the door. It wasn't a musical problem - there just wasn't room. And one was so close to me I kept hitting her harp with my elbow every time I played a down-bow on my fiddle.


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: GUEST,Julia
Date: 06 Feb 03 - 07:45 PM

Okay, so what's this about 2 harps and and ill wind...!?Something like Aeolian pollution? Watch it, Tom, or I'll whip out my gatling dart thrower(aka harp) and nail you to the Press room wall!! Objecting to two hammered dulcimers I can understand, but harps? Humph! You're as bad as the policeman in Bar harbor who asked me to move along for "disturbing the peace" when I played my harp in the park there one day. He said nothing to the goons with the boombox across the way. Still I can understand that you just couldn't take all those resonant healing vibes wafting through the place, undoing all your knots....
Never mind- I'm not a fan of Carolanization either. I promise if I bring my harp to one of your sessions, I'll be gentle...
Love Julia


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Naemanson
Date: 06 Feb 03 - 10:24 AM

Dave! Hope to see you there.

Brett


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: curmudgeon
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 06:33 PM

The Press Room is at 77 Daniel Street (US Rt, 1 South) across from the Federal Bldg., the ugliest structure in town.

Take I-95 North to the Portsmouth Traffic Circle exit. From the circle, proceed north on the Rt. 1 By-Pass. Take the second exit, Maplewood Ave. Turn right at the stop sign. Go left at the first stop light. At the stop sign go right. After the next stop sign, go left. Bow Street curves around up and down hill to Daniel St. At this stop sign, go right and park wherever you can. Sometimes it is necessary to circle the block a few times. If this proves too much, proceed all the way on Daniel St. to the square and take a right at the stoplight. There is a parking garage at the end of that street. Press Room phone is 603-431-5186.

Hope to see you some Saturday -- Tom


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Just another Dave
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 02:25 PM

Could some one please post directions or an address for The Press Room?? (I'll be driving up from the South on I-95.) There is an outside chance that I might be able to get to this one. And ...well... if not this one then a future one.
Thanks.

Dave De Angelis


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Naemanson
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 09:55 AM

Since we are revealing secrets I suppose I can confess that I usually have a kazoo in the bag with my bones collection. Maybe we could organize a kazoo version of an O'Carolan tune some Friday night when the Angel Band is there. They can't kill all of us.


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 09:02 AM

Of course, not only is there the "kazoo" but there's also the fabled "wazoo", ("Wazoo?" "Oh, tell us more!") but since this is a family-friendly website, perhaps, I should tastefully refrain...

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Feb 03 - 10:22 PM

And then there's "Mickey's Mousketeers" (gosh darn them all) and "Garnet's Homemade Beer" (the 'official' parody).

Linn, I've never noticed the kazoo. SINSULL - just kidding. I have a nose flute. The first time I ever tried to play it, I did great. After that, forget it. The guy who gave it to me had created a device out of rubber bands to hold it on his face so he could toot honk on it while playing guitar.


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 Feb 03 - 09:59 PM

Mary has changed the lyics slightly and for the better but specifically requested that they NOT be published on line. She prefers Oral Tradition and will pass it on to any who request it.


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 04 Feb 03 - 09:32 PM

Jeri -- haven't you ever noticed that I usually have a kazoo (and a few other non-Press Room licensed, ah, "instruments") in the bottom of my purse?

I just like to know they're there . . .

By the way, "Götterdaämerung, I was told
The Nibelung made a ring of gold
You'll feel the fire, shed some tears
When the Valkyries ride with their burning spears
And the voice of Siegfried fills your ears."

It's brilliant (thanks, Lamarca, for writing it!).

Linn


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Brían
Date: 04 Feb 03 - 07:45 PM

I laugh just thinking about that Barrett's Privateers parody:-)

I'm looking forward to this.

Thanks Sinsull I think I have a ride with Charlie and co.

Brían


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: curmudgeon
Date: 04 Feb 03 - 07:01 PM

This is indeed a promising lineup. And there is no exceptionally foul weather in the forecast. See you on Saturday - Tom


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Feb 03 - 05:16 PM

Looks like Judy, Nor and Brian and in the van with me. Don't know what Uncle Jaque is up to. Kendall's in Florida. And Bunker and Sharon are halfway through an antique show week-end in Bath.

Maybe I can get Dick Dufresne to come as well.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Second Saturday Shanty Session (NH)
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Feb 03 - 04:40 PM

SINS, it was written by Mary LaMarca. (The parody.)

Re kazoo and does anyone care to join you - not at the Press Room, but I'll send flowers later on.


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