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Subject: BS: The World According to Carp From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 20 Feb 03 - 02:01 PM I am fed up with Popular American Media. Nothin' but slant and spin, as far as my beady little eyes can see, and there are few signs of change on the horizon... unless.... Do you have access to good, objective, (sic) coverage of world events? If so,... what is it? ttr |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: NicoleC Date: 20 Feb 03 - 02:05 PM Objective? No, no such thing, sez I. The BBC comes close. You just can't rely on one source. One of my faves for a nice liberal read in www.commondreams.org -- mostly a clearinghouse of daily commentary and opinion, but news links as well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: JenEllen Date: 20 Feb 03 - 02:05 PM www.fstv.org
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Amos Date: 20 Feb 03 - 02:07 PM That should be FSTV. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Ebbie Date: 20 Feb 03 - 03:45 PM A weekly newspaper that I take is www.liberalopinion.com. It's meaty rather than strident (Stridency is why I stopped taking Z Magazine) and has a wide range of commentators and political cartoonists, mostly liberal but on occasion others, regulars as well as guests, including Richard Reeves, David Broder, Ellen Goodman, Molly Ivins, Ralph Nader, E.J. Dionne,Jr., Eleanor Mill, Bateman, even Joe Lieberman. $49.50 per year, and as I said, it's a weekly of about 30 pages. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: katlaughing Date: 20 Feb 03 - 03:59 PM And, it's also got some wickedly good political cartoons, too, Ebbie! I was a regular contributor with them until I quit writing op/ed pieces. Nice people and I really enjoy reading the different views. Here's a link to it: Liberal Opinion Week |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Rapparee Date: 20 Feb 03 - 04:02 PM I tend to read news from the Associated Press (wire.ap.org), knowing full well that it's gonna fall short. But it's still a bit more independent than most. It's the talking heads I'm sick of..... www.ucomics.com is, for my money, as good as any for REAL news. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Bill D Date: 20 Feb 03 - 04:08 PM You can get a lot of stuff on NPR, and on things like public TV...and there are VERY wide variety of online newspapers which have different slants on it all. It doesn't take too much reading to see which ones at least try to 'report' instead of 'push'.(though, sometimes it is useful to wallow thru the truly biased in order to learn the code) look at these lists: http://www.worldnewsstand.net/ http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Bill D Date: 20 Feb 03 - 04:10 PM this may be even better...ALL types of media. GebbiePress |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Bill D Date: 20 Feb 03 - 04:15 PM from the first listed above.. Soldiers for the Truth ...seems to be an attempt to get the point of view of yer average grunt out...biased? unbaised? *shrug* |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Bill D Date: 20 Feb 03 - 04:19 PM and their headlines page seems to have some neat links! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: NicoleC Date: 20 Feb 03 - 04:19 PM I prefer Reuters to the AP wire -- Reuters avoids charged political words like "terrorists" and "freedom fighters" in favor of specifc factual words like "hijackers" and "opposition forces." To me, it makes it more like news and less like a propaganda briefing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Bill D Date: 20 Feb 03 - 05:06 PM yep...those are clues to relatively neutral reporting. Loaded language is a dead giveaway. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 20 Feb 03 - 11:51 PM Thanks all! I'm liking what I'm seeing, but I want more objectivity! PBS is my mainstay, and alternative is generally reactive... BBC is very refreshing after being steeped in US network commercial props... But we are running a little low on careful up to date reporting don'tchathink? ttr |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Clinton Hammond Date: 21 Feb 03 - 12:28 AM NPR?? National Pretentious Radio? Blech... There is no such thing as objective reporting... never has been, probably never will be.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: GUEST Date: 21 Feb 03 - 12:59 AM Wall Street Journal Christain Science Monitor Financial Times of London |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Mark Clark Date: 21 Feb 03 - 02:27 AM Clinton is probably right that there is no such thing as objective reporting. All we can do is try to keep up with as many diverse sources as possible. Has anyone else noticed that right-wing congressmen no longer give speeches calling for the elimination of NPR? Have you wondered why? Have you noticed that all their “experts” now seem to come from right-wing think tanks? One useful new source is now Google. If you set the home page of your browser to If you're really serious about wanting a complete and independent view of news events, try some sites in the following list.
- Mark |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Rapparee Date: 21 Feb 03 - 05:39 AM www.ecola.com is an Internet news stand, listing newspapers and magazines from around the world. I should have mentioned that it's also one of my favorite sites. I personally prefer news without too much of a political slant either way. BTW, I may switch from AP to Reuters, since AP has changed their website recently. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 21 Feb 03 - 10:32 AM Nice presentation, and a reasonable selection... Thanks Mark! The Christian Science Monitor has long been an effective source, especially in confusing times... I go through phases with The Nation, but I can't stay on their high horse for long... The Economist is straight and clear but ricochets off me to philosophy... I'll give the net rags you folks have offered up a little time and see if I can keep from being misinformed... Good Luck! Read up and inform yourself, to prepare for the comming conflicts! M.Jones ttr |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Strupag Date: 21 Feb 03 - 10:54 AM Now if you really want to be given thoughtful unbiased meaningful stuff then you have just got to read The Sun (I jest of course but have a look at it on-line just to see what drivel it has today) http://www.thesun.co.uk/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Bat Goddess Date: 21 Feb 03 - 11:15 AM On Sept. 11, 2001 I discovered (thanks to Mudcat) Ananova.com -- it was the one major news site that not only wasn't swamped, but I found I was getting more information from diverse sources (i.e. outside the US) and faster than the radio. You can't have too many good sources of news. Linn |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Bat Goddess Date: 21 Feb 03 - 11:17 AM And don't forget "Funny Times" because these are, indeed, funny times we live in. Very, very political and very, very funny (because we need to save our sanity). No, not news, but most of the humor is BASED on the news. Linn |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Mark Clark Date: 21 Feb 03 - 12:19 PM TTR, Thanks. On your recommendation, I'll check out the Christian Science Monitor. I confess that, even though I'm a practicing Orthodox Christian, I tend to shy away from anything with the word Christian in it. That word and those teachings are so abused today, I tend to run fast in the other direction whenever it's mentioned. I don't agree with the point of view in the Economist either but I know there are some conservatives here who might be interested and at least they seem to have integrity and some insight. I just filter out their philosophy. I could also supply a long list of activist links but we've been talking about news and information in this thread. Even when I agree with their point of view, I think the activist links tend to be less than objective in their reporting of events. I prefer trying to find out what really happened before deciding on it's political significance. - Mark |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 21 Feb 03 - 03:14 PM Right on Mark, I couldn't agree with you more... Activist is the result of irreconcilable information... And for me, I'd like to make darn sure before I commit my personal forces... I feel all too often that this sensationalism that presupposes militant desires... is our primary distraction right now... a priori if you will... virtually insuring that intelligent people are turned into reactionary automatons of a sort... Keep on keeping an open mind! And thanks for the good news ;^) ttr |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: Rustic Rebel Date: 21 Feb 03 - 04:12 PM Thomas- this place is interesting if you want daily headlines from 27 different countries and 195 different front pages. They also give you links to each site and pdf reading. newseum this is a link to the home page. To find the pages click on newspaper headlines.They also have an archive of past news. Peace. Rustic |
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Subject: RE: BS: The World According to Carp From: michaelr Date: 21 Feb 03 - 09:32 PM What -- no mention of Pacifica Radio? Thomas, I don't know where you are, but there are 5 major Pacifica stations in the country, and at least a dozen affiliates. A Google search should bring them up. Pacifica was founded over 50 years ago by people opposed to war, and continues to be a beacon for free speech. One of their best daily programs is Democracy Now. They'll bring you news and viewpoints that no mainstream media source will touch these days. Cheers, Michael |