Has the British Govt. gone mad?

Subject: Has the British Govt. gone mad?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 04:15 AM

For a number of reasons, listed below, I feel our government are increasingly introducing many new laws which seem to border on lunacy.

In addition to the crazy PEL debacle, I heard in the news today that the government are proposing that children under 14 be permitted to enter pubs on their own, without any adult supervision being required.

The British Prime Minister, Tony Blair is endeavouring to lead the country into conflict with Iraq, whilst most other major european heads of state are opposed to this issue, and yet at the same time a significant number of MPs of all parties have shown that they're also anti-war. Also, according to latest statistics, most ordinary people in Britain are likewise opposed.

With measures to de-criminalise possession of cannabis & other so-called 'soft' drugs, the government, despite announcements about cutting crime & reducing the risks of re-offending, seem hell bent on creating conditions in which crime is more lightly to flourish, the children in pubs example being the latest.

What do you think?

Subject: RE: Has the British Govt. gone mad?
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 04:20 AM

Obviously, Tony Blair's just trying to make sure that he doesn't follow in Bill Clinton's footsteps. When he gets stoned and goes into a pub to meet 14-year-old girls, he wants to make sure it'll all be legal.

Aloha,
Mark
(sorry, just wandered in here, I'll go home now and have some poi)

Subject: RE: Has the British Govt. gone mad?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 04:20 AM

I think that this should be labelled BS

Subject: RE: Has the British Govt. gone mad?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 04:25 AM

i think you should log on with a name if you're intending to flame on this forum.

Subject: RE: Has the British Govt. gone mad?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 04:31 AM

Which news did you hear about the kids in pubs?
Cannabis is not being de-criminalised, it is been re-classified, from class B to class C.I reckon your'e right about Iraq, though I think there's already a thread about that. :-)

Subject: RE: Has the British Govt. gone mad?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 04:40 AM

john, its been on radio 4 news yesterday, apparently lots of mps & lords are up in arms about the vulnerability of children in pubs.

Subject: RE: Has the British Govt. gone mad?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 06:08 AM

Never mind the vulnerability of kids in pubs, how about our peace and quiet. It's bad enough when the local Conservative Club committee votes to allow women into the snooker room!

Nigel

Subject: RE: Has the British Govt. gone mad?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 08:10 AM

nigel,

i know what you mean, some of our session & sars on on sunday lunchtimes & afternoons have been ruined by the 'noises off' of family parties & their 'wild children'

Subject: RE: Has the British Govt. gone mad?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 09:55 AM

Here's the Guardian story: Moves to allow unaccompanied children under 14 into pubs, clubs and bars were thrown out in the Lords last night, as a cross-party alliance dealt the much-defeated licensing bill one last blow.

Another cock-up by Kim Howells and Tess Jowell. If it weren't for the war fever I think there'd be a lot more attention being paid to this whole ramshackle piece of legislation.

But I'm not with you on the cannabis thing, Mr Happy. What's proposed there is a timid step in the direction of sanity. Quite untypical.

Subject: RE: Has the British Govt. gone mad?
From: DougR
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 11:48 AM

Mr. Happy: you asked, so I'll reply. I think it is incorrect to say the majority of European leaders oppose what your PM and our Prez is doing. If you assume that France, Russia, Belgium, and Russia comprise all of Europe, then you would be correct of course.

DougR

Subject: RE: Has the British Govt. gone mad?
From: Snuffy
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 08:08 PM

Most european leaders couldn't afford to oppose the U$ anyway

Subject: RE: Has the British Govt. gone mad?
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 09:46 PM

Well, danged, Dougie!

Man, you know how I feel about polls but if there is any validity to them at all, you either are in denial here or not paying attention.

The entire world is turning against Bush. Maybe not the leaders but the the *people*! Yeah, Blair can do what he thinks he should do, but the folks in the UK are turning out in unprecidented numbers to say, "No War!". Sapin? The same! Italy? Over a million!

Now, I will grant you that *your guy* duped the US *wimp rag* Congress with his *draped in the flag* friggin PR campaign and I congratuale him on $20M of my tax dollars well spent. But that's all he did...

Bottom line, my friend, is that, like ot or not, *your guy* is about to pull the trigger on the most avoildable war in the history of mankind and it's going to send a clear message to the rest of the world that *attacking your neighbors* is just okay.

Hey, this is you're guy and on your watch!

Don't come back here next year when there's wars and conflicts all over the world and try to pin this ojne on Clinton.

This one is one you guys!

Bobert

Subject: RE: Has the British Govt. gone mad?
From: ex-pat
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 10:18 PM

The British Government went mad about 600 years ago. They have remained on the same course since.
Nothing about the country I was born in surprises me anymore.
Not a bad place to be from! But get the hell outta there!

Subject: RE: Has the British Govt. gone mad?
From: DougR
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 01:48 AM

Bobert: If Clinton had done what Bush is doing now, this whole mess could have been resolved by now. That would have been a much easier solution too, because all of you protestors probably would not have been so vitrolic had someone other than a Republican showed some leadership.

DougR