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Little Hawk 12 May 03 - 11:17 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 May 03 - 11:17 PM

Aw, fer Chrissakes...

Where is "Too Ducky"? We need the real info on this, not these sort of insane ramblings from Clueless...

Gyro is not interested in sex in the least.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Bill D
Date: 12 May 03 - 11:04 PM

mmm-hmmm..yes...sure...nod...right


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Cluin
Date: 12 May 03 - 08:54 PM

And April, May, and June weren't Daisy's neices. There were actually a cloning experiment by Gyro gone awry. See, Gyro always had a thing for Daisy and had stalked her for a while before obtaining a few feathers during the moulting season (PMS ain't a patch on Daisy during the moult) and tried to clone her as an adult for three consecutive months (guess which ones?) before throwing in the towel. When Daisy and Donald found out about it, Donald almost killed Gyro, but Daisy persuaded Donald to just scare the inventor into giving up custody of the "projects" to her. Daisy's bio-clock was ticking, right?... Actually, the alarm had been going off for years, but Donald was shooting blanks by then because of some radiation he'd been exposed to during the war effort and...


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Cluin
Date: 12 May 03 - 08:37 PM

And they all called Scrooge McDuck "Uncle Scrooge". There was an investigator tried to get to the bottom of this conundrum years ago. He worked Donald over quite thoroughly until he broke down in tears, whining:

"They're my nephews!"
*whack*
"They're my brothers!"
*whack*
"They're my sons!"
*whack*
"They're my nephews!"
*whack*
SOB

... and so on.

(At least that's what they thought he was saying. Nobody could really understand him anyway and all the tears and snot flying around just made things worse)

Forget it, Jake. It's Duckburg...


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 12 May 03 - 08:36 PM

I'm enjoying your writing immensely "too ducky". Just thought I'd let you know.

Cheers

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Peter T.
Date: 12 May 03 - 12:22 PM

Dorfman's two books of essays are "How To Read Donald Duck" and "The Empire's Old Clothes", both in the 1970's. Brilliant analyses of Scrooge, the Lone Ranger, Babar, and a host of others. yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: GUEST,Too Ducky For Words
Date: 12 May 03 - 11:02 AM

It sounds fascinating! Where can I find it?

By the way, that was supposed to be "Scotland" (Scrooge's birthplace), not "Sotland"! :-) Sotland sounds more like the birthplace of Sir John A. MacDonald...

Rick - It's true that the Beagle Boys are easily identified...by their little masks, their prison garb, and their number tags worn prominently on their shirts! (176-761, etc....) They do it deliberately, because they are proud of what they are, and they don't give a hang about it. They've got a lot of moxie. When a "job" requires stealth, they have been known to adopt disguises, however. One time they all dressed up as nautical types with identical souwesters, hats, and long beards. They got away with it for awhile till Hewey, Dewey, and Louie exposed them for what they truly were...the terrible Beagle Boys!!! Those kids are sharp!

The Beagle Boys have contempt for the ordinary police most of the time, and don't really worry about them too much, but one time they were prevented from blowing up Scrooge's money bin by a cop. This was after several fruitless attempts to do so...which had caused tremendous detonations in downtown Duckburg, and some collateral damage to neighbouring structures, and to the Beagles themselves. The cops were not interfering...I forget why...it was some legal technicality...but THEN a little old lady complained to the police department about the noise! Well, that was it. The cops arrived and told the Beagles they would have to cease and desist...and they did. The power of little old ladies is awesome!

You see, cops in Duckburg are a lot like cops in most places...they exert a great deal of effort in issuing parking tickets, littering tickets, speeding tickets, and so on (to enrich the city coffers)...enforcing petty minor bylaws and harassing ordinary citizens like Donald...but do they take on the major criminals? Not unless they're bloody well forced to! Ce'st la vie.

Did I mention Duckburg's lawyers? Utterly corrupt and heartless! They make the Beagle Boys look like saints. One of them is called "Sharky". He's a rat. He works for a pig named Beauregard J. Swinely.

Quack!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Peter T.
Date: 12 May 03 - 09:16 AM

Ariel Dorfman's communist analysis of Scrooge McDuck is one of the high points of his writing career -- almost as good as the similar analysis of The Lone Ranger.

Daisy Duck always reminded me of Daisy Buchanan.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: GUEST,Too Ducky For Words
Date: 11 May 03 - 08:33 PM

Yes, the "Louie" thing is mysterious, all right. I have no idea why he didn't spell it "Lewey". Can't help you there.

Moving on, I ought to do a couple more character sketches:

Daisy - A remorselessly shallow and self-absorbed little society girl is this duckess, always predictable, always determined to have her way, materialistic, social-climbing, manipulative, and domineering. One wonders why Donald (and his rival, Gladstone) would go through the hell of dealing with her, but that's typical, isn't it? Among Daisy's good points...she is practical, and not easily fooled, and she has a strong sense of responsibility toward the little ducks' safety. Anyone who dates her basically gets what he deserves, I suppose...

Gladstone Gander - A jerk. A jerk with amazing luck. What could possibly be more annoying than that? Gladstone does not believe in working, he just waits for his luck to deliver him whatever he wants (money, cars, clothes, a date with Daisy, food, whatever...). His one great weakness is his colossal arrogance...so outrageous that it draws down the wrath of the gods on his head every now and then. Donald's hatred of Gladstone is totally understandable. Now and then the two of them actually get in a physical fight over some issue, providing some of the funniest moments ever seen in comics. The burning question is...is Gladstone a duck or is he a goose? I think that he is clearly a duck, despite the surname "Gander". There are goose characters seen now and then in Duckburg, and they look very different from Donald and Gladstone. Gladstone's wavy "hairdo" marks him as a slippery character, a letcher, a fop, and a major irritant. He looks like a character from the era of "The Great Gatsy" to me. Daisy probably knows Gladstone is a jerk, but she doesn't care...she's in it for whatever she can get. They deserve each other.

Uncle Scrooge - THE most classic character of them all (although Donald is still "everyduck")...Scrooge is a rugged elder survivor who was born sometime in the 1800's...dirt poor in Sotland. He started out with a single dime (made shining shoes), invested it wisely, and fought his way up tooth and nail to become the richest tycoon in history. He panned for gold in both the Yukon and the Klondike. He fought warring Indians, claim-jumpers, rustlers, and thieves. He faced down desperados in some of the most notorious saloons of the Old West and Alaska, where he found his one true love, and then lost her to his own wanderlust. He has survived encounters with every raging wild beast known to biology or pulp fiction, and some that are only rumoured (like the Yeti, for example).

He is almost unstoppable. What drives him? A desire to forever leave behind the poverty of his youth, and attain "security". But security eludes him, as it does all who think in those terms. The Beagle Boys and other top thieves constantly scheme to get his money. Other ruthless tycoons (like his archrival, Flintheart Glomgold) battle him for the gold ring. Foreign despots vie for the chance to sieze his assets. The tax people harass him.

For Scrooge it is a never-ending struggle to remain on top and in control of the World's largest fortune. He has more cold cash in one place than anyone else in history...including Saddam Hussein or the Saudi royal family. He could buy the whole USA if he wanted to.

Scrooge's brief moments of joy and relaxation come when he swims and frolics in his nine cubic acres of cash, safe inside the walls of his impregnable "money bin", the biggest building of its kind ever constructed.

His life is a testament to the futility of storing up "treasures on Earth". Still, he's a likeable old curmudgeon, and he's very courageous.

Quack!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 11 May 03 - 08:09 PM

The Fly is a character that was developed by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby for Harvey if I recall correctly. The Jaguar was also a Harvey imprint. The Fly could fly and had a Buzz Gun that stunned his enemys. The Jaguar could fly by the benefit of a pair of small rockets attached to his belt. Like alot of secondary press comics these two books suffered from low circulation and non mainstream characters so they didn't last as long as some others.

About the same time that Jack Kirby and Joe Simon did the Fly for Harvey, Marvel Comics hired Jack and an add agency for Nelson Rockefeller hired Joe. Jack went on to be the prime aristic developer for Marvel comics during their heyday and produced such characters as The Fantastic Four, The Hulk, Sargent Fury, Dare Devil, IronMan(With Don Heck), Spiderman (with Steve Ditko), THor, Captain America (With Joe Simon), The X-Men and countless others in the form of Villians and minor heros. Jack died about 10 years ago, from congestive heart failure shortly after the 1000 Oaks earthquake.

Joe is still alive today and still active in comics, mainly licensing his creation, well into his 80's.

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 11 May 03 - 05:25 PM

My question about the Beagle Boys sabotaging their work involved them ALWAYS wearing those litle criminal (Lone Ranger) masks and carrying their loot in bags marked with dollar signs.

Now I wonder about certain things....when Unca Scrooge would sit in his treaure room and throw all his coins up in the air, did some Mudcatters fantazsize to the point of bad mental health? Yes I can picture Peter T. wanting more and more info on Supergirl, (who may have been the role model for 'super mom' of the seventies) and even increasing her bust size in his mind.....heck it's easy to picture Little hawk doing just about anything with the mental images of Betty and Veronica....I mean after his Shatner obsession would anything surprise us?

But I also worry about me sitting for hours at a time wondering if I'd really like to be a "slime and ooze" creature, just because he had long guitar playing fingers. I thought that even Peter Parker was too decisive!

Have any Mudcat women looked in here? This should explain a lot.

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 May 03 - 05:00 PM

Then answer THIS! Why is it Louie had to be different and not spell his Lewey? Has he got a primo ducko complex or what?


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: GUEST,Too Ducky For Words
Date: 11 May 03 - 04:53 PM

Hewey, Dewey, and Louie had a father who passed away, but I can't recall his name. Having been orphaned very young, they were taken under the wing of their uncle, Donald, and also watched over (to some extent) by Daisy, Donald's sometime girlfriend. It is ludicrous to assert that a hunter shot their father, because in the world of Donald Duck the ducks are themselves among the ruling races...and are themselves hunters on occasion.

Duckburg, as you know, is a great city, and is named after the ducks who founded it in the pioneering times. It is very much like Toronto, but not quite so far north. It's in the area corresponding to the American Midwest, near the Great Lakes.

The Beagle Boys differ from most criminals, in that they are all closely related by blood...they are all members of the Beagle family...this accounting for their great homogeneity of appearance. They are born into the criminal trade and are proud of it. Some have even been born in prison. Their special vendetta against Scrooge McDuck is due primarily to the fact that he's the richest duck on Earth, and they can't resist the challenge. He's also a very worthy opponent. The Beagle Boys have become quite fond of Scrooge over the years, although tempers can become frayed at times, in the heat of the action...and they have a mean image to live up to.

An even worthier opponent, possibly, is found in the three ducklings, Hewey, Dewey and Louie....the Junior Woodchucks organization...and the Official Hound. When it comes to sheer resourcefulness and craft they are unsurpassed. This has proven to be the downfall of the Beagle Boys' best laid plans on many occasions, not to mention Donald Duck's plans to avoid such tasks as spring cleaning for Daisy!

Donald is "everyduck". He's conventional, but a bit eccentric. His reach usually exceeds his grasp, but he never gives up. He is a very sympathetic character, plagued by a short temper and an inability to get along with his neighbours (particularly the notorious "Jones").

An interesting character in the same community is the inventor, Gyro Gearloose. He has had great difficulties over the years in gaining recognition, but never stops trying. His nemesis is the lowly toaster...a device which refuses utterly to be perfected, even by Gyro.

Also worthy of mention is Gyro's "helper"....a little mechanical man with a lightbulb for a head. He's clever, and clearly has a living soul. This alone should serve to crown Gyro as the greatest inventor of all time.

For the REAL duck stories...read Carl Barks. Don Rosa is okay too.

Quack!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 May 03 - 04:32 PM

Oh, oh, oh, THIS looks like another good resources site - take a look at their REAL HEROES archive, not very many and rotten artwork, but still too kewl! clickety


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: GUEST,Hal Jordan
Date: 11 May 03 - 02:52 PM

Harry - I remember both of those characters - they were publihed by some small company. Not one of the majors at least. Didn't the Fly have some sort of gun he flew around with ? I don't think either character lasted very long as far as I can remember.


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Peter T.
Date: 11 May 03 - 02:48 PM

Thanks. Almost Right! Linda Lee Danvers, actually. I forget why she had Danvers attached -- was there a wedding in there somewhere? (cf. previous note on girl vs. woman)
yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 11 May 03 - 01:58 PM

Who published 'The Fly' and 'Jaguar'? Or are they both figmnents of my imagination?

All the best...........Harry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 11 May 03 - 01:25 PM

Peter,

Linda Danvers. Alliteration was rampant in the comic book universe tho'

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 May 03 - 12:42 PM

Huey, Dewey and Louie always refered to Donald as UNCLE (or "Unca")Donald...allowing us to speculate about some brother being lost to duck hunters.


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Peter T.
Date: 11 May 03 - 10:40 AM

I am having trouble remembering Supergirl's secret identity. Can anyone help? It was certainly one of those stupid L.L.s (like Lori Lemaris, the mermaid chick). yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 11 May 03 - 09:10 AM

Now let's be a little careful here. Several of the few Mudcatters who deal in irony are in this thread......so comments about Betty and Veronica being quiet gay icons (and of course that classic closet guy, Jughead) are probably being made facetiously.

But can ANYONE tell me who was the (either one) parent of Huey, Dewey and Louie? Look I don't mean to cast aspersions on Daisey's morality, but those kids didn't just pop out of Easter eggs!

Also.....what was with those BEAGLE BOYS? There were at least two things that gave them away after every hiest....remember what?

I LOVED Harvey Pekar. My fave line: "It's 'Okry' not 'okra'!"

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: stevetheORC
Date: 11 May 03 - 07:54 AM

Batman has quite definatly become a lot darker over the years as have a number of spin off comics, Robin gained his own series (there have beena number of Robins) and there was even a post apocoliptical series for a while.
Some comics such as Razor are of a very adult nature the art work in the Shi comics is great as are the trading card sets that followed.
Could never get into the Archie stories, I think that I started with Nemo and Superman closely followed by Sargant Rock then i was hooked.
Found that most of the comics in the seventies where not that great. to many new charecters.

Well thats my view :-)

De Orc


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 03 - 12:01 AM

Well, yeah, sure Archie comics were for girls. We know that. But so what? It's still fun looking at Betty and Veronica. I have to agree with Rick though, they are very one dimensional.

Brandy has a whole lot more character and she's easy to relate to. She certainly has an odd lot of animals to deal with, and that has obviously assisted greatly in strengthening her character.

Her relationship with Frank (the shy veterinarian hopelessly in love with her) is interesting. I suspect that, like Charlie Brown, the character Frank is a thinly disguised version of the author of the strip itself...and Brandy is the girl he always wanted but could never have...just as Charlie Brown and Charles Schulz never got the "little red-haired girl".

Powerful stuff, unrequited love is.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 10 May 03 - 10:18 PM

Batman and Superman are also "grownup" comics today.


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Joe_F
Date: 10 May 03 - 07:53 PM

Some grownup comics:

Robert Crumb, especially his autobiographical ones, and the ones about (obMudcat) early jazzmen.

Harvey Pekar, _American Splendor_ (more or less annual), _Our Cancer Year_.

When I was a kid, I had a big collection of Superman & Batman.


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 May 03 - 07:44 PM

Don Meixner, see? Sad, sad...


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Cluin
Date: 10 May 03 - 06:44 PM

Jeez, you guys! Archie comics were for girls! Don't tell me you were getting the pages stuck together....


;)


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 10 May 03 - 05:19 PM

Ebbie,

At one time comics were considered the path to juvenile delinquency. My third grade teacher said she'd flunk anyone she caught with a comic book in or OUT of school. She had read Seduction of the Innocent
by Dr. Fredric Wertham and she knew that if I read any comics at all I'd kill my parents, become illiterate, and probabibly lose my eyesight. Well I can't spell and I wear glasses. Comics were debated on the floor of the Senate and had a brief entrance in the McCarthy hearings. As it was the industry developed the COMICS CODE! And EC comics, the incarnation of literary evil on earth according to Dr. Wertham, folded camp and turned into MAD Magazine. Which was more insidious and evil than EC ever could hope to have been.

Jeepers but I love sequential art and panelology!

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 10 May 03 - 04:37 PM

Little Hawk, I always found Betty and Veronica a bit one dimensional, however that changed when I got my ViewMaster.

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 May 03 - 04:27 PM

Do any of you remember when comic books were the big primrose path bugaboo? Pretty much spoken of in some circles as some videos are now. Of course, I and my brothers loved comic books but we didn't get hold of many.

Does anyone remember 'The Big Little Books'? Red Ryder (with Little Beaver. Hmmmm.), Charlie Chan, a bunch of others. Why those in my parents' eyes were better than comic books I have no idea.


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Cluin
Date: 10 May 03 - 04:19 PM

"Brandy, you a fine girl, what good wife you would be..."


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 03 - 03:10 PM

Jules Verne wrote some truly odd stories. He was kind of hung up on machinery, and lousy at characterization.

For really GREAT pioneering science fiction, read H.G.Wells instead! He was the master.

I loved the Classics Illustrated comics of "Time Machine" and "War of the Worlds" and "First Men in the Moon" and the art was good in those ones. Quite good. The martian machines and the Morlocks were both marvelous.

Rick, I gotta say I love your theory about Betty and Veronica being secret lesbians! Definitely makes sense to me. Those girls...Ay-yi-yi...they leave the local boys totally in the dust. I used to fantasize a lot about Veronica, but she is kind of stuck up, that's the only problem.

GUEST - Thanks again for the Liberty Meadows tip. I got the comic, and what a delight it is! This did indeed run in the Sun for awhile, but then they axed it (typical). Brandy is a character with a lot of presence...I like her. Pity she doesn't work in this town is all I can say. Man, things would definitely pick up around here, and the animals would be very happy too, I'm sure. The humour is very witty. I love the geeks at the comic convention, clustering around Brandy like gnats around a gazelle. Ha! I like the dachshund too. We have one that looks and acts just like him.

And here's the kicker...listen carefully, Mudcatters...

On the very first panel of the first page of the Liberty Meadows comic's first issue appears the name of...WILLIAM SHATNER!!!

Yes. It's true. It was fate that drew me inexorably to this comic, from the moment I saw Brandy's noble features on the cover, little realizing that the great Shatner would be waiting within the pages!

It's like this: Leslie the hypochondriac bullfrog is all excited because he has just found out that the Comic and Sci-Fi Convention is coming to town! He calls over Ralph the midget circus bear to see the announcement in the paper.

"Guess who's the guest of honor at the convention?" says Leslie. "This is so cool."

Ralph takes a long and cynical look. "William Shatner's hairpiece?" he asks.

"Yes...No..NO! BELOW THAT! BELOW THAT!" responds Leslie with considerable irritation.

Like I said. FATE has led me to this comic, and I shall read it faithfully forevermore! And I understand just how Frank feels...

:-)

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: stevetheORC
Date: 10 May 03 - 12:43 PM

Nice site thanks Kat

De Orc


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 10 May 03 - 12:02 PM

Oops...a very well known Jules Verne novel. Sometimes my ignorance astounds me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 10 May 03 - 11:57 AM

Thanks kat. The print's pretty small but it brings back memories. What the hell was "Michael Strogoff"? I'll check.

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 May 03 - 11:30 AM

Here's one, Rick, which might show a few: complete guide to Classics Illustrated. More when I have time, if someone else doesn't beat me to it.

A Crumb child...what a vision!


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 10 May 03 - 10:39 AM

Hmmmmmm.....question. I'm not asking this cuz' I'm lazy. I really would mess it it up big time.

Is there any site that could be blue clickied to let us see the different artist's styles next to each other? Naturally I well remember Frazetta, Lee, Kurtzman and a few others, but it would be nice to see 'em all together. Even those incredibly bad artists who infiltrated Classics Illustrated.

I was talking to a friend (late fifties) the other day about meeting his Ladyfriend's son's girlfriend (!?) I said she looked like a "Crumb teenager". My friend said "What does that mean"? Guess he led a different life than some of us here did.

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Peter T.
Date: 10 May 03 - 10:29 AM

Wow, a Spiderman signed by Stan Lee. Hard to believe there are such things in the world. yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: stevetheORC
Date: 10 May 03 - 10:23 AM

Here are a few places that you could look to compare prices and just get a general feel for the market:-)

www.metropoliscomics.com

www.comicsforever.com

www.HeritageComics.com

www.nostalgiazone.com

www.squaredealonline.com

I dont know if you live in the US or UK but there are plenty of online comic shops. Ebay is also a good place it will give you an idea of what they are realy going for (normaly a third of book value) Conan is not as popular as it was a few years ago (I collect them) but I think that SS will go up in value after all they are turning many of the comic book heros into movies now.

Loved the Freak bros, collect Batman, Shi, Conan, Kull, Robin, Huntress, Warlord, Dracula the best one that I own is a Spiderman signed by Stan Lee that for me is priceless. Ah what the hell lets just admit I love comics (ref to thread on adulthood) I'm still a child at heart LoL
I collect comics, Hockey/Baseball cards, Non sport trading card, Minature soldiers and autographs.

De Orc

Enjoy them while you still can :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 May 03 - 05:32 AM

I'm just setting out to import a Toyota Surf from Japan, and guess who's going to call himself after his favourite comic book hero?
THE SILVER SURFER
Sad aint I?.......Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 03 - 01:49 AM

You see, Frazetta has a radically different notion about female attractiveness than I do...in an aesthetic sense. Matter of fact, I don't much like how he draws men either. He's gross. He makes Vaughn Bode seem sensitive in comparison.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 May 03 - 10:07 PM

I wouldn't say I'm a speed-demon, but I go along at a fair clip. I wonder if they are part of why I am such a thorough reader, too. Reading every inch of a comic, all of the little bits and pieces. I cannot skip anything in whatever I read, have never been able to. Have to make sure I've got it all.

Oh, and Bill's link? Naturally it is the REDHEAD who beats out the blonde and brunette and gets to have all the fun!


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 09 May 03 - 08:28 PM

Folks, check out Bill's blue clikie....it's fun.

Does anyone else here read exceptionally fast? I think that's another comic consumption result.

Were there any major Freudian slips during those more naive times?

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: GUEST,Ron Olesko
Date: 09 May 03 - 04:38 PM

That was me - I'm at work so I'm a "guest".

Frazetta had two distinct periods of comic book work - the late 40's and 1950's where he worked for a number of publishers including DC.

In the late 60's and early 70's he was THE artist for Warren comics.


Ron


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 03 - 04:36 PM

Frazetta did a TON of comic art.   Most notably in my mind is Vampirella.


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Wesley S
Date: 09 May 03 - 04:20 PM

He did some of the paperbacks if I'm not mistaken but I don't think he was involved with the comic books.


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 May 03 - 04:18 PM

Ah-hah! Thanks, GUEST! I had a good feeling about Liberty Meadows, and will buy the comic. I think it ran for a short while in one of the Toronto newspapers (the Sun). Brandy is certainly a memorable and appealing character.

Frank Frazetta? I HATE his artwork. It makes me feel sick.

I do like Conan the Barbarian, though, and that's pretty similar, I guess. In fact, I think Frank did some Conan covers, didn't he?

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 09 May 03 - 04:03 PM

Hmmmm.


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 May 03 - 03:58 PM

Ah, you're just saying that 'cause she plays geetar! **bg**


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Subject: RE: BS: Any comic book readers here ?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 09 May 03 - 03:52 PM

Julie Bell was a favorite model of Boris Vallejo's and then became his collaborator and wife. Julie would inspire me to do great things as well. Julie is however, not as well attenuated (sp) as most of the women Boris paints. With that being the inspiration it could explain the less bosomatic women in Boris's portfolio. Julie is still a stunner in anyones book.

Don


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