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klezmer for young beginners needed

TIA 20 May 03 - 09:51 PM
Sorcha 20 May 03 - 10:58 PM
Stewart 20 May 03 - 11:04 PM
GUEST 20 May 03 - 11:25 PM
GUEST,Sorcha 21 May 03 - 12:42 AM
GUEST 21 May 03 - 06:58 AM
wysiwyg 21 May 03 - 10:18 AM
TIA 21 May 03 - 01:09 PM
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Subject: klezmer for young beginners needed
From: TIA
Date: 20 May 03 - 09:51 PM

Through a chance encounter with a radio program, my kids have discovered klezmer. On a recommendation, I just got them a Dave Tarras CD, and they've flipped. Young (grade school-age) violin, clarinet, flute and keyboard players. Anyone know a good source on the web for easy klezmer music? Found Trillian's online klezmer ABC site - are there any others with multiple parts? Can you recommend any books?

Thanks in advance.

TIA


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Subject: RE: klezmer for young beginners needed
From: Sorcha
Date: 20 May 03 - 10:58 PM

Personally, I think klez is all too difficult for a beginner. Usually lots of flats, lots of accidentals, strange rhythms, etc.


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Subject: RE: klezmer for young beginners needed
From: Stewart
Date: 20 May 03 - 11:04 PM

Here's an article on klezmer I wrote for the Victory Music Review in Seattle CLICK HERE. I don't think it's necessarily too difficult for beginners. There are a variety of kid's klez camps (check out the web). I know that Temple Beth Am in N. Seattle has a Kids Klez group.

It's great music. Good luck.

Cheers, S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: klezmer for young beginners needed
From: GUEST
Date: 20 May 03 - 11:25 PM

Schtick! Pure promotional Schtick!

There is everything modern and commercial about the Princton Link....I wish I had better examples to post as a rebuttle.

Too difficult for beginners Sorcha? NOPE, any third year student should have an easy and fun time with this.

TIA - encourage the kids - they CAN do it!

Most of all they will have a fun filled summer....they wil remember to their graves.


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Subject: RE: klezmer for young beginners needed
From: GUEST,Sorcha
Date: 21 May 03 - 12:42 AM

Ya, how about a Rank Beginner? Not a 3rd year student.........????


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Subject: RE: klezmer for young beginners needed
From: GUEST
Date: 21 May 03 - 06:58 AM

There is a Book Published by Bossey & Hawkes compiled by Edward Huws Jones, who is a peri music teacher on Klezmer that is worth looking at he also has other books worth looking at
selby


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Subject: RE: klezmer for young beginners needed
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 May 03 - 10:18 AM

Here's a thought-- when klez was just the music of the people (you know, FOLK to the people it belonged to)-- how did younger/newer players get into it?

Let's see, they probably listened to it from birth, soaked up the sounds, had a yen to play it, figured bits and pieces of it out when no one was looking, joined in shyly from the sidelines and played as well as they could, asked older players for a little help now and then, and eventually grew up into the next generation of players.

D'ya think maybe it could (oughtta) be learned that way now?

~Susan


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Subject: RE: klezmer for young beginners needed
From: TIA
Date: 21 May 03 - 01:09 PM

Thanks everyone.

Yup, it won't be easy, but it rarely comes in a bottle. WYSIWG's got it spot-on. I wish I could pass it down, but I don't play it, so we're huntin' up some local players to stalk. Maybe klezmer camp next summer.

Thanks again to all of you.


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Subject: RE: klezmer for young beginners needed
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 May 03 - 03:03 PM

Recordings on long car trips do wonders. There are a number of klez sound clips online that can be downloaded. Some old thread had a link. Can't find it for ya-- puder problems.

I'm doing that myself. Not with klez, but that is where all of our band's gospel material comes from... All styles, all forms of gospel-- started with LPs copied to car tapes, then went to tapes, then to CDs copied to car tapes, now it's MP3s copied to car tapes.... you soak them up till they take root in your head and take on a life of their own, and then you try to produce what you are hearing in your head.... not a copy of the original, but what your head has morphed it into. For instance there is a black gospel piece we want to do, and it has that strong back-chanting thing from the backup guys, behind the lead singer/testifier. We do not have such a backup force. But my autoharp can stride that part out, and the bom'pa-bom vocal line that does the bass, well our guitar player can do that part, and so forth. I can hear it now, so now we can start to work it up.

I imagine it should be the same with klez, really. But I would love to go to the klez camp and see how it's done there. If they allow a visit to see about a signup for next year, I'd go check it out.

Online Klez societies??? Annual klez fests?

And please-- post what you learn, here in this thread, so it's there for others later on!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: klezmer for young beginners needed
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 07:04 PM

You could always try http://www.klezkanada.org/index.php/institute/institute_faq/?langID=1

Also, I just wanted to point out that Klezmer is NOT a folk tradition but rather a tradition of professional Klezmer bands that played for weddings. So, young kids did not "just soak it up" like other folk music as someone here wrote.
    Please note that anonymous posting is no longer allowed at Mudcat. Use a consistent name [in the 'from' box] when you post, or your messages risk being deleted.
    Thanks.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: klezmer for young beginners needed
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 07:24 PM

Anonymous guest, young kids did just soak it up - if their parents (which is to say, for the most part, fathers) were professional klezmers.

I know we're 7 years late for OP, whose kids are probably leading high school klezmer bands by now, but one useful site for klezmerstuff is The Klezmer Shack, http://www.klezmershack.com/


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Subject: RE: klezmer for young beginners needed
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 07:28 PM

"young kids did not "just soak it up" like other folk music"

But the kids still 'soaked it up by listening' anyway - I saw on TV a thing where a girl of about 6 years old was watching a band playing trad music - at a Russian society easter festival in Australia - and she was playing an 'air bazouki' ... :-) so why not with kletzmer too? :-P


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