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BS: VeriChip

GUEST,DG 25 Jul 03 - 12:36 PM
GUEST 28 Jul 03 - 03:33 PM
Bill D 28 Jul 03 - 05:47 PM
GUEST 28 Jul 03 - 06:27 PM
Ebbie 28 Jul 03 - 06:45 PM
Sorcha 28 Jul 03 - 09:22 PM
GUEST 28 Jul 03 - 10:23 PM
Ebbie 28 Jul 03 - 10:36 PM
GUEST,.gargoyle 28 Jul 03 - 10:55 PM
Padre 28 Jul 03 - 11:13 PM
GUEST 28 Jul 03 - 11:57 PM
Bill D 29 Jul 03 - 12:07 AM
GUEST,.gargoyle 29 Jul 03 - 12:14 AM
rangeroger 29 Jul 03 - 12:42 AM
DMcG 29 Jul 03 - 08:08 AM
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Subject: BS: VeriChip / Interpol
From: GUEST,DG
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 12:36 PM

If this doesn't scare you, you are dead:

The distribution agreements in Russia, Colombia and Venezuela call for the distributors to sell at least 75,000 VeriChips and 3,500 VeriChip scanners within five years.

VeriChip is an under-the-skin radio frequency identification device.
Applied shares closed unchanged at 46 cents. The 52-week low was 18 cents on March 21. The 52-week high was 84 cents on July 31...

VeriChip

And the reason to 'chip' everyone one the planet? Taxation and slavery. And other things. I heard this guy interviewed. He talked about his book RACE AGAINST EVIL. He worked for Interpol, which is the second largest international organization next to the U.N., yet you rarely hear about Interpol. And they fund and manage international child pornography...child snuff films, photos, prostitution. Disturbing stuff.

So imagine a world govt with Interpol as its police force tracking your kids with VeriChip and routing the info to folks like THE BELGIAN BEAST. Bannon said he used to work for an Interpol program called 'Archangel'. He would assassinate pornography 'producers'...folks who torture and photograph kids, etc. He would torture them before killing, though, and he said lots of prominent names would come out during the torture sessions, but he was never allowed to go after the powerful people and came to the conclusion he was being used to silence those who might threaten the higher ups. Therefore...Interpol is in control of worldwide child pornography.

And here's a flashback to THE FINDERS CASE, which was hushed up in the US. Typical everyday type of business for the international child pornographers.

And now the US govt is teaching children that they should be tracked by SATELLITES...easier pickings for the pedophiles. Check out NROjr.gov

Anyway, terrorists run the US govt and many other govts. They already own all the banks and oil supplies and media, and we're only tolerated because we breed children for their 'amusement'.

THE FRANKLIN COVERUP remains the only book I've read on this topic (the Bushes and Robert Byrd of W. Virginia and many many others involved in cocaine trading/ brainwashing/ child pornography), but Bannon's book looks worthwhile. But why bother with the books when there is so much on the internet. They tried marketing the VeriChip crap in the US but it didn't work, so now (probably as part of World Bank loan forgiveness), the things are being forced on other countries for a test run. But this IS the way of the future...subdermal chips to 'protect you from the terrorists'.


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jul 03 - 03:33 PM

Smart Tags


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Jul 03 - 05:47 PM

awww..DG..don't worry, there are already defenses against that! And inexpensive!


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Subject: VeriChip
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jul 03 - 06:27 PM

Scary !


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Jul 03 - 06:45 PM

Bill D, make sure EVERYONE reads the sidebar about imitations. When good ones can be manufactured so cheaply NO ONE should risk inferior or corrupted versions.

"BEWARE OF COMMERCIAL AFDBS: Since you should trust no one, always construct your AFDB yourself to avoid the risk of subversion and mental enslavement. Sometimes, AFDBs will be sold on places like eBay. Do not purchase these pre-made AFDBs, even if the seller seems trustworthy. They may contain backdoors, pinholes, integrated psychotronic circuitry or other methods that actually promote mind control."

DG, covers over the head do the same trick. (Has it ever occurred to you that someone is using you?)


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Sorcha
Date: 28 Jul 03 - 09:22 PM

Not this guy again...........


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jul 03 - 10:23 PM

This is Interpol, folks. The organization is responsible for international policing, yet it is responsible for providing protection to child pornographers. These international child pornographers steal children, flay them alive for video cameras and then sell the tapes to enthusiasts.

These are the people running the world.

And now they want to tag your kids and grandkids for easier collection.

It kind of matters in my world, if not yours.

DG


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Jul 03 - 10:36 PM

poop


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 28 Jul 03 - 10:55 PM

It is generally accepted, by those who understand these things, that organic-foods were tagged about 17 months ago. Until the product passes through the colon - you can be tracked.

Within this the "inner-colonic-community" this has led to an increased irrigation of the bowels...within the MudCat Community it explains Catspaw's absence from resent threads and KatLaughing's increased irritability in recent threads.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

I collect all of the sensors (clothes, food, plants, household-products, TV, Radio, police arrest reports,) into one BIG cotten-bag (natural fibers to not disturb the frequencies,) which I hang around my crotch (when I go outdoors) or over my bed (when I'm doing indoor things.) It is my belief that all of these conflicting signals confuse the satelite reception of several million like minded individuals and therefore, INTERPOL does have a clue what I am doing.


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Padre
Date: 28 Jul 03 - 11:13 PM

I spent a year as a chaplain at St. Elizabeth's, a psychiatric hospital near Washington DC. At least once a week, I would meet a client who espoused similar views, until their medication became stabilized. Often, they wore alumin(i)um foil on their head to block the rays that affected them. What seems to be new here is the implication that Interpol is a world-wide pornographic organization, with practices similar to the followers of Moloch.


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jul 03 - 11:57 PM

The ongoing Roman Catholic pedophile furor is just a coverup for the larger Interpol operation. A diversion. Seems a Catholic would be a bit ticked off about that...to have YOUR group exposed for poking kids while the monsters who make snuff films with them feed you to the lions.

Geez, people. I could link to thousands of articles about this. I know denial is the easiest way to deal with things, but you owe it to the children you bring into the world to protect them. Do some google searches on pedophile + anything you want...Juan Carlos, Saxe-Coburg, Interpol, CIA, DynCorp. Type in 'Israel sex slave' on google. Damn, people, maybe the trouble is YOU folks are taking too many sedatives.

DG


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 12:07 AM

gargoyle said, in little TEENY pink type:.."I collect all of the sensors (clothes, food, plants, household-products, TV, Radio, police arrest reports,) into one BIG cotten-bag (natural fibers to not disturb the frequencies,) which I hang around my crotch (when I go outdoors) or over my bed (when I'm doing indoor things.) It is my belief that all of these conflicting signals confuse the satelite reception of several million like minded individuals and therefore, INTERPOL does have a clue what I am doing."

yep...I am sure INTERPOL does not have a clue what you are doing...and if you are running about outdoors with this big bag tied around your crotch, neither does anyone else.


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 12:14 AM

Its not a BIG bag! - because they are teeny-tiny sensors...and its not a big crotch for the very same reason.



Sincerely,

Gargoyle



BillD and EG got this one right!


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: rangeroger
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 12:42 AM

Guest,DG, what the hell is it you want us to do? Absolutely agree with you?

You're right, the sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!

rr


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: DMcG
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 08:08 AM

DG: If you've not already come across Prof Kevin Warwick of Reading University, you'll enjoy reading about Project Cyborg 2.0. Particularly his experiments linking his central nervous system with that of his wife. Never one to shun publicity, our Kevin.


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 03:22 PM

" into one BIG cotten-bag "
"Its not a BIG bag! "

???...not only is INTERPOL confused, so are you, garg....


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 06:30 PM

What to do? How should I know? 200,000 kids and women disappeared in Bosnia...sex slaves, sacrifices? Who knows? I just want to make people aware of this stuff. It seems to take a couple of years for the average decent person to get over the denial phase in any atrocity, so I spread this ugly stuff around just to start the process.

I am convinced the monied elite of the world (who have owned everything for so long they will seek thrills in perverse ways the rest of us can't even imagine), I believe those people kill other humans for amusement and as sacrificial victims. And they don't just randomly snatch their victims off the street...there is a branch for that specific job. The branch is made up of unstable individuals who have to be eliminated from time to time, which brings me back to the start of this thread.

The man who wrote the book assassinated 'procurers' and 'producers' for Interpol. He tortured the perverts for info first, and he heard lots of exalted names along with the lower-level minions, but he was never allowed to go after the higher ups. They are protected.

And now they want to tag your kids like cattle. The Pentagon wants all info on school kids turned over to them for draft purposes, but once your kids are face scanned and chipped, the Juan Carlos'es and Saxe-Coburgs and Bushes and the Bill Clintons of the world will be smacking their lips over your little darlins'. They'll be able to go shopping for child sex slaves at the Pentagon's candy store. For some reason that prospect offends me.

DG


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 06:38 PM

Mass Murderers Agree


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 06:41 PM

".. shopping for child sex slaves at the Pentagon's candy store.."

and you'd NEVER exaggerate a prediction for the sake of effect, of course...

(why DO I keep bothering with this nonsense? I dunno- I guess it's just the philosopher in me objecting to wholesale damage to logical thought)


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 08:40 PM

Haven't you been following the news? Do a google search for DARPA. The Pentagon is hell-bent to collect every piece of info about you and yours. That can't be a good thing. Power, money and sex are the motivators...the people in charge want you and yours. Literally. Writer Hunter Thompson uses handguns to blow the heads off of kids, according to some witnesses. That's apparently how he gets his kicks with children. And he's allowed to do it because he's trusted by the ruling elite. Imagine tens of thousands of people like that having access to your kid's personal info.

We now live in a country where black ski masks are police attire. And the govt is nationalizing all police forces while pushing for total collection of personal data.

Like I said at the start, if you're not afraid, you're dead.


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 10:12 PM

DG, yes, now I am afraid. You scare me. I hope you are old and senile and about ready to trundle off this planet before you yourself do some real damage.


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 10:37 PM

The Pentagon just announced it has a betting pool on terrorist attacks, Ebbie. On Sept 11, Buzzy Krongard (#3 man in the CIA and former employee of AB Deutschbank), he made no telling how many millions of dollars by betting against the stocks of American and United Airlines, the two carriers used in the hijackings. Krongard and his confederates in Germany placed a RECORD number of put options on the airlines a couple days before the hijackings, and when the stocks went down, the 'speculators' made tons of money.

And now it's discovered the Pentagon is INSTITUTIONALIZING this practice because YOU don't have the guts to speak out against it. The Pentagon is now going to 'invest' money in 'speculations' about future terrorist attacks. Are they going to nuke Omaha in March?...then dump the municipal bonds in February. AND YOU ARE AIDING AND ABETTING THESE TERRORISTS! They bombed our cities on Sept 11, murdered thousands overseas, stole constitutional rights and now murder US servicemen daily. And they kidnap our kids and kill them. What the hell is wrong with you? YOU are frightening because of your suicidal indifference.


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 11:23 PM

They have 'dumped' the idea, DG, because of the outcry.


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST,KB
Date: 30 Jul 03 - 04:30 AM

I just can't get my head around that betting thing. It is so foul and stupid a thing, that one wonders what other idiocy those people are up to. It does open the door to a quite scarey mindset. I am confident that DG is way off course with his paranoia - but am beginning to wonder whether I have had just a little too much faith in human nature........


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jul 03 - 10:34 AM

Read this closely, Ebbie. The...idea...is...not...dumped. Remember the 'TIPS' program that was going to turn us all into snitches against our terrorist neighbors? There was such an outcry they 'dumped' that by just renaming it and doubling the funding. Same with the Total Information Awareness network...outcry...rename it and continue on. Same with the betting pool. It's much more than a betting pool. It is a tool to 'assist' marketplace investors. It has not been dumped. It will remain alive and well and will be used by the govt's insiders to make money off future terrorist attacks. They will invest in certain ways and then green light attacks to in order to make money. The terrorists in charge of the US govt are going to squeeze every penny they can out of the American economy, and they are throwing it in your face. They are BETTING ON YOUR DEATH. They are going to kill you and profit from it. They just told you so.

Read the news sources, folks. These programs are around for a REASON, and the govt terrorists are GOING to use them. They hide them in plain sight by merely renaming them.


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Jul 03 - 11:54 AM

By KEN GUGGENHEIM, Associated Press Writer

"WSHINGTON - Republican senators say Pentagon (news - web sites) budget proposals never made clear that Congress was funding a futures market in which traders could bet on events in the Middle East, such as assassinations and terrorist attacks.

"They said they never would have approved such plans and now are seeking answers about how the market came within days of registering its first traders.

"The Pentagon dropped plans for the market Tuesday, a day after two Democratic senators disclosed details of the market. Leading Republicans joined Democrats in denouncing the project by the Pentagon's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, known as DARPA.

"It's totally unauthorized as far as we're concerned," Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, said. "No funds should have been used for it at all. It's really a serious mistake on the part of DARPA."

DG, I agree that we must keep an eye and ear out for adaptations of this stupid idea. But it does appear that they took a bigger bite than could be chewed.

The NICE thing is that Poindexter is finding himself in trouble on this matter- and it is POSSIBLE that he will be fired. Fire off those messages to your representatives and the White House, folks.


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jul 03 - 12:17 PM

After 9-11 German journalists jumped on the Krongard/Deutschebank story and pointed out correctly the paper trail would lead to the terrorists. It did. It led to the CIA. Then the story disappeared. The CIA test-marketed a system for making money off terrorist attacks, and it WORKED! They got away with it! They played the Futures Market and made gazillions of dollars, so now they are letting OTHER govt employees in on the easy money. NO SUCCESSFUL MONEY-MAKING ENTERPRISE EVER DISAPPEARS.

This program will NEVER be de-funded. It'll just be re-named and continue. There is TOO MUCH MONEY to be made off this, so it WILL continue. And if the CIA and Pentagon are ever caught again, they just won't talk about it 'for national security reasons'.

This is how the real world you folks claim I'm so out of touch with works. The govt made money in the market on Sept 11, and now they're going to systematize the process. This is in-your-face arrogance. They are goose-stepping over your dead bodies right now and couldn't care less if you know about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Padre
Date: 30 Jul 03 - 08:44 PM

Guest, what is your opinion of Vegemite?


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 31 Jul 03 - 01:16 AM

Guest-you,are,a,fuckin,nutter
i,once,shared,a,cell,with,a,bloke,like,you
[terry],he,was,a,real,nutcase
he,reckoned,the,russians,was,putting,rays,into,his,head
we,could,not,have,a,radio,in,our,cell
as,he,thought,it,was,sending,him,messages
ficking,nutty,bastard!

I,had,,big,argue,with,him,one,day
and,was,going,to,give,him,a,good,slap
but,he,was,3.or,4,times,my,size
so,i,just,agred,with,him
no,point,arguing,with,big,blokes
especialllyy.,mad,ones.

he,was,a,real,nutter[
rays,in,his,head,my,arse
he,is,just,a,mental,case!

one,day,i,said,to,him=
"terry,shut,up-
or,i,smash,your,fuccing,face,in"
he,said-
",do,wat,you.,like,-they,are,wathching,us"!
how,can,you,reason,with,people,like,that?

I,gave,him,a,good,kicking,then,went,to,sleep
[nutters,piss,me,off,].jhn


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 Jul 03 - 02:19 AM

John, I didn't realize you did poetry. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Aug 03 - 07:23 PM

Back to the top with this one. Glad you didn't take offense, Padre. No opinion on vegemite. And why were you in a cell with that guy anyway, John from Hull? I mean, if HE was locked up for being a nutter...

DG


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 01 Aug 03 - 08:02 PM

GUEST-are people [russians,aliens,etc], putting rays into your head?


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Aug 03 - 08:10 PM

John...was your cell padded?


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 01 Aug 03 - 08:14 PM

GUEST-you are completely mad,
these chip things are for cats and dogs,
let me explain=you chip your dog, he runs away
the police scan him, find your details on the chip, and
return him to you.simple


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Aug 03 - 08:19 PM

Fair enough, John. I'll accept your complete and utter ignorance as an excuse for not knowing what the hell you're talking about. Can you find www.google.com on the internet? If so, type in some word combinations like 'subdermal chips california prisoners', 'tracking chips alzheimers', 'tracking chips prisoners'. I don't know...been over a year since California announced they were going to implant them in prisoners. And Russia, with its gulag mentality, oh yeah I'm sure they plan the things for their freakin' pets. Get back to me when the penny drops, as I believe you Brits say.

DG


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 01 Aug 03 - 08:23 PM

GuEST-if you believe this stuff to be true, why are you posting it to a Folk Music Discussion Forum?
Have you thought about contacting the newspapers and radio stations?


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Aug 03 - 08:43 PM

Oh I do all that. Actually, I like the link maker here, and sometimes I linger longer than I probably should. But then I like folk music, too. Listened to two hours of James Brown today. "Goo' Gaw, yall!"

I use the link maker to construct diatribes like the one at the start of this thread, then I post the html on bulletin boards.

I keep several windows open when I'm on the net, copying and pasting and reading and mailing, so I watch what you folks talk about, and I jump in sometimes. And sometimes Ebbie gets contrary and we bicker.

And it's not a matter of 'believing' this stuff. This stuff is real. I can prove it all just with links to major media sources. But people don't WANT it to be real. And I understand that, because I used to be that way, then something, somewhere in the past just threw the switch and it was like a room lighting up. We are in BAD trouble, and the point of no return is approaching. OK...here's what i know in a nutshell...

Money attracts money. Over the past few hundred years, a half-dozen money-making organizations have prospered. The Dutch Royal family, the Spanish Royal family, the British royal family, the Rothschild banking family, the Rockefellers in America...a few others. They created a system of paper money and print the money, and we are all in debt to them. And now they are about to pull the plug on that illusory money system. Plagues and starvation to force people to join the armed forces, then that force will be turned against the debtors. To survive in such a world we will have to serve abjectly, and that means 'chips' among other things.

Blah blah blah...you asked for it. I wish it weren't so, but it is. And the only way to derail that future is to jump in front of it, so I spread the word however I can.

Sorry about the padded cell comment.


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 03 - 04:37 PM

I have to say it sounds quite like a bad fantasyto me, G. If I were a member of such a cartel I would argue that wer get all the servitude w e need out of the monetary system. Pulling the plug on it, as you put it, would be self-destructive from that perspective.
Don't get me wrong -- I think there is a serious psychosis afoot in the world and it definitely serves one well to be alert to it.

But I think you have identified the wrong psychosis!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 16 Sep 03 - 08:55 PM

!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Sep 03 - 09:58 PM

Het Guys!!!

I totally believe this GUEST guy.

It is a GOOD THING that he (or perhaps she) is alerting the media about this stuff.

Be ALERT not ALARMED!! The world needs more Lerts!

It's a great pity, though, that s/he doesn't seem to want to trust us folkies all here at Mudcat (working in conjunction with THE CRYSTAL PEOPLE from Chiff & Fipple to undo the damage he has helpfully documented for me) enough to log in an get a cookie and become a Respected Member of the Fraternity here. That would allow volunteer workers like me to click on his handle and reference all of his/her back posts quickly without having to laboriously use the Search Engine. As am oldtime hippie, I am hurt by his distrust.

Keep up the Good Work!

Robin
P.S. A useful tip how to learn to do the "clicky thingies" yourself.

Paste a few of them into a text file using Notepad. Study the logical layout of them, and you will quickly see that you can just use Notedpad to copy one of these and substitute the entries you wish. This way you can even create your messages offline, and eventually by hand "on the fly".


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Subject: RE: BS: VeriChip
From: Mr Happy
Date: 17 Sep 03 - 12:14 PM

ok gust,

we've all had our chips- but you need to get a life!


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