Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown

Subject: Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 09:44 AM

It's been getting on my nervews for a number of years, and is becoming more frustrating even than my attempts to play it!

I've heard it only occasionally over the years (since the 70s, and as recently as last year), played as a third tune after "Boys of Bluehill" and "Harvest home" ... and that's all I can tell you. I've written the tune down, but I don't know how I can pass it on -- other than as a midi in a PM, if anyone thinks they might recognise it. The only other thing I can say is the second part is almost all triplets, and it as a range of almost two octaves: G-e'.

Any constructive suggestions welcomed!

Steve

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 09:45 AM

I don't actually want the tune, do I? Just the name ... I should have made this a "Help" thread -- oops!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 09:48 AM

try writing a few notes out Steve.A crude version of abc notion would do, if you dont do that. Reckon on eight quavers in a bar, and put the names of notes where they occur, and a . for where there isnt one. Eg a rising scale GABC at one note per main beat in a 4/4 bar would come out as /G.A.B.C./
   Give us the first couple of bars and we'll have a go.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 09:56 AM

a bit of googling gave me two names of tunes used in a set with Boys of Blue Hill and Harvest home.

they are 'off to california' and "rights of Man"

Either of them a possibility?

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 10:03 AM

First few bars:

bc/dbgbDGBD/GBDgbgab/caFaDFAB/CDECA

("C" is middle C, "G" is G below middle C and "g" is G on 2nd line up on treble stave)

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 10:08 AM

Definitely not "Off to California" (that's aneasy one!) and pretty sure it's not "Rights of man" either, but thanks for looking, Guest. I did try Googling it myself, with similar results -- or the same results, I suppose!

Steve

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown
From: treewind
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 10:24 AM

It's a little bit like The Royal Belfast in the wrong key - should be higher up in D. That has three parts, and the THIRD part is almost al triplets.

Try looking that up on JC's tunefinder, or try this:

X: 0
T: Royal Belfast Hornpipe
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: D
ag | 3)faf df Ad FA | DF Ad f2 ef | 3)gbg eg ce AF | GA BG E2 ag |
....etc

Anahata

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 12:19 PM

I'm with anahata: starts off quite like a version of the Belfast(aka Millicents favourite in Geordieland), and that has got an all triplet third part. Are your triplets all decorated descending scales, Steve?

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown
From: Davetnova
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 12:21 PM

It sounds like the Sweep's hornpipe, three parts with the last part all descending triplets.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown
From: Davetnova
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 12:25 PM

Which is of course the Belfast, I must learn to read before posting.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 12:25 PM

Sweep's Hornpipe is another name for Belfast/Millicents. Also aka The manchester Hornpipe(in common with at least seven other distinct tunes!).

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 12:25 PM

Well done, Anahata - you've made an old man very happy! Yes, it's The Royal Belfast, aka The Belfast, aka The Sweeps', aka Millicent's Favourite. Ironic that it should have all those names, and I never knew any of them! (Although "Sweeps" rings a muffled bell.) I shall have to learn that middle part now.

(Greg: yes!)

Thanks, everyone!

Steve

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown
From: Leadfingers
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 01:23 PM

And its great fun on the whistle.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown
From: treewind
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 03:06 PM

It's the only tune I can play on a whistle!
(well almost, a long time ago - I haven't tried recently)

Anahata

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hornpipe, name unknown
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 06:30 AM

When I play Harvest Home, and the Boys of BlueHill I always finish with the Trumpet Hornpipe (ie the Captain Pugwash theme)

Murray