BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?

Subject: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Partridge
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:28 AM

I'm Princess Leia from Star Wars


click here to find out who you are


Pat x

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Morticia
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:42 AM

Apparently I'm Galadriel.....hmmmm, I always thought she was downright shifty but there you go.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Les from Hull
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:49 AM

Oh no - I'm Jean-Luc Pickard. I hate that bloody program.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:51 AM

Leonard "Bones" McCoy

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:54 AM

I haven't looked at this site, but I always thought I was Digby from Dan Dare.

RtS
(Eagle comics, 1950s)

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:59 AM

I come out ar Aragorn

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: songs2play
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 10:21 AM

Inigo Montoya.

Inigo is a character in The Princess Bride(so it says) - Never heard of him.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: polaitaly
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 10:33 AM

Aaaargh! I'm Commander James T. Kirk ! (And I have ever been sure I was the Grey Mouser!)

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: mack/misophist
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 10:49 AM

Who the hell is Marcus Cole? He sounds like a wimp.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: AliUK
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 10:55 AM

apparently I am Gandalf, which while this strokes my ego and I love the worlds of JRR Tolkein, I find it a bit of an insult to both the S-F and Fantasy worlds that this site has mixed trwo very different genres. Even Star Wars isn´t S-F.

             Pedantic Ali

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: sian, west wales
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 11:02 AM

I don't know what you all complaining are.

Yoda I am.

Sheesh. This week just getting better does.

sian

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Midchuck
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 11:14 AM

It says I'm Data, "a character from the Star Trek universe." Who the $&^#@ is he?

I always though of myself as an amalgam of Rhysling and Nicolas von Rjinn.

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: GUEST,bbc at work
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 11:14 AM

Gee, Morticia, I'm also Galadriel. I guess we must be spiffy!

bbc

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: NicoleC
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 11:26 AM

Picard... hmm, I don't see it.



As in, "My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

Good book, but better movie.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Pied Piper
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 11:39 AM

John Sheridan from Babylon 5.
I'm shore glad 'er indoors stoped being a Bone 'ead and grew some hair.

PP

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Amos
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:02 PM

Here I was sure I was Yoda and this amchine says I am Galadriel:

Possessing a rare combination of wisdom and humility, while serenely dominating your environment you selflessly use your powers to care for others.

Even the smallest person can change the course of the future.

Galadriel is a character in the Middle-Earth universe. You can read more about her at the Galadriel Worshippers Army.

Wow -- my own Worshippers Army??? Hmmmm--maybe after all take the role shall I!!

A

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:07 PM

Oh bugger I am turning into Mr Shatner it would appear, beam me up Scotty!

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: JennyO
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:23 PM

I seem to be Galadriel too. I've noticed that more people get Galadriel than any of the other characters. So what is it about her that makes her so popular? Maybe this is how a lot of us HOPE we are seen by others?

Of course this description fits me perfectly ;-)

Jenny

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Allan C.
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:24 PM

I've taken the test three times, twice using Netscape and once using Explorer. Each time I have gotten an Internal Server Error message. I guess my answers won't compute.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:25 PM

today I am Dr. Zarkov

but yesterday I was Logray

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Watson
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:35 PM

Ohmigod, I'm Delenn - I wouldn't mind but I'll never get a hat to fit.
I think I'll go again - I've just noticed PP is Sheridan!

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:37 PM

I....am the greatest starship captain in history. I...am totally in command. I...have an irresistible power over attractive women. I...am never slow to take action...when it is required. I...look great in leather boots and a corset. You...know who I am. :-)

(Actually, I think there's something wrong with the test. I actually tried to answer it deliberately so as to get James T. Kirk, and I got Galadriel! This is scary. I then tried to answer it honestly, and I got Yoda.)

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Amos
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:40 PM

LH:

A mutual schizophrenia we engage in, you and I!! Shall we split the mind-meld four ways? LOL!!!

A

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Watson
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:45 PM

OK, so change one answer and I get to be Gandalf - strange, there wasn't a question about hair, but I think that's where the resemblance is closest.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:46 PM

I came out as Yoda too: "A venerated sage with vast power and knowledge, you gently guide forces around you while serving as a champion of the light."

But on my days off, I think I'd like to be Klingon. (But not Worf! He's such a gloomy sod.)

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:49 PM

Well test says I'm Data [Who he?], but I always wanted to be The Silver Surfer.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: polaitaly
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:50 PM

Lilltle Hawk, do you want change your answers with mine? I would have liked to be Galadriel , instead then the Kirk thing......

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:55 PM

It baffles me how you got Kirk. I tried to get him and didn't. I slipped up somewhere. They should've had more questions.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:58 PM

I wonder if it's possbile to register as "Q" or Jabba the Hutt on this test?

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 01:27 PM

That's a fascinating site - if you go back to the home page there's some great stuff to find. Including The Lord of the Rings - compete text of the book, and a scene by scene breakdown of the two films, with the dialogue and thumbnail pictures of all the scenes..

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Bassic
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 02:03 PM

Yesterday I was mostly Kirk, today I will mostly be John Sheriden, obviously I am destined to command, now who will I be tomorrow? eeerrrr........maybe......errrrrrrr........but then maybe.........eeerrrrrrrrrr...............what do you think No1?

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Bassic
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 02:10 PM

Hey, I put on my omnipotent head and managed to get Darth Maul!! I was trying for Q but discovered that it is impossible cos in the question about immortality there isn't an option for "I am already an immortal".

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Peter T.
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 02:18 PM

Michael Rennie. ("Not even we have that power!")

yours,

Peter T.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Don Firth
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 02:30 PM

Hmm! I came out Gandalf. That's a bit of a surprise. My hairline is more like Jean-Luc Picard's.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Bassic
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 02:32 PM

Bye the way, anyone who comes out as Barbarella, or 7 of 9, or Jadzia Dax, let me know ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Tinker
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 02:54 PM

Allan, I too just keep getting internal server errors... perhaps our analysis is beyond intergalactic understanding. Beware the Men in Black.

Tinker

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Edain
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 02:54 PM

I came out as Data. Not sure if you'd class it as sci-fi but some of my friends have compared me to Leela (sp?) from Futurama

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: X
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 03:33 PM

I need no program to tell me I'm Simon Wagstaff, The Space Wanderer.(Venus On The Half-Shell, Kilgore Trout)

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: artbrooks
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 04:06 PM

Anybody have a towel?

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 04:07 PM

such a test! "What character from commercial, popular, mainstream, recent, stereotyped, mostly TV based sci-fi are you?" *grin*....I am NONE of those folks. Mine is from a book I haven't even seen for 30 years.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 04:39 PM

Well bugger me, I'm Galadriel too! But *I* have the hair!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 06:04 PM

Tried it again - seems if I say I'd rather discuss personal feelings
I'd be Galadriel, but if I prefer philosphical debate I'm Yoda. And both of them have no worries about taking a bribe to bring in a verdict they'd bring in anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: artbrooks
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 06:18 PM

Personally, I think Indian Names is more fun.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Emma B
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 06:51 PM

Am I the only Luke Skywalker so far? (apart from the REAL one that is)

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Menolly
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 07:15 PM

I came out Marcus Cole, not who my name suggests I hope to be! Could I not be Kiiliashandra, then?

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: The Walrus
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 08:17 PM

Oh dear, I'm James Kirk - oh well, on with the corset and act like a plank of wood...


By the bye, On th subject of Star Trek, did anyone see the news article that stated that Patric Stewart (as Picard) had apparently became a gay icon? (Something to do with tight uniforms they said....ah well, each to their own I suppose).

Walrus

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 12:31 AM

Sheesh, only two Princess Leia's among us? Thanks, Patrish! Fun thread and test!

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 01:47 AM

un...able...to...com...pute...

I always thought of myself as "Captain Tight Pants"

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Neighmond
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 03:32 AM

Guess I'm Silver John, right straight from Manly Wade Wellman.

Chaz

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 04:31 AM

Art you're right about the Indian [Native American?] names, I just came out as Todd Sensitive Pulpmill. I can hardly type this for giggling like a lunatic.
Giok
Stay Calm...Be Brave...Wait for the Signs

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 04:37 AM

ARt - it's a killer!!! I'm Mabel Tragic Hawk!

Very appropriate today as I've just bent the spice rack with my head and feel VERY tragic.

MTH

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: HuwG
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 08:29 AM

Apparently, I am Delenn>. In Valen's name, why ?


Tried again. Came out as Severus Snape this time.


Just give me a red uniform and put me on a landing party, please.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Gareth
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 08:33 AM

Hmmm ! I am "Korsh" Who the hell is.was that ??

And is it flattering ??

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Bassic
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 08:48 AM

Gareth, look here
for all you need to find out about Korsh. I would calim to be Korsh No 1 if I were you!

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Gareth
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 11:00 AM

Hmmm ! Flattering, I think !!!!!

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 11:28 AM

These days I am Captain Christopher Pike--from THE MENAGERY--the first double episode of the original Star Trek.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: sian, west wales
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 12:09 PM

Don't like that other one: I'm supposed to be Bertha Cerebral Duck.

Life's difficult enough as it is ... Yoda isn't looking so bad.

sian

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: pixieofdoom
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 02:03 PM

I'm Princess Leia too. I've never even seen Star Wars! I was really hoping to be Lord Voldemort

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: jacqui c
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 04:10 PM

I'm Princess Leia too! Does that mean we get to share Mr Ford????

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 04:10 PM

I would have to say that I am Aurthur Dent: Displaced in the universe and just trying to figure out what's going on.

Stephen Lee

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: EBarnacle1
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 04:20 PM

According to the program, I am also Marcus Cole. I expected to be Jack Barron.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: jacqui c
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 04:47 PM

I've just tried the Indian Names and come out as Joline Sentimental Osprey - think I prefer Leia!

I checked the list of names in the character statistics on the sci-fi one and there were 944 Gollums, 921 Sarumans and 338 Quarks. What kind of answers would you have to give to land up with one of those characters and would you own up to it?

Kevin - I think that Yoda suits you perfectly but if you want to be a Klingon when are you going to start writing the operas?

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Joe_F
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 06:44 PM

It comes up with some Star Trek character I had never heard of.

The sf character I identify with is the robot in J. J. Coupling's "Period Piece". Programmed to pretend to be human, but nobody is fooled.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 07:21 PM

My maiden name came out as Jolene Crinoline Mule.... not so happy with that one...

I'll stick with being Mabel Tragic Hawk with an egg sized lump on the nut.

MTH

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 07:34 PM

Im Aragorn ...whoever that is!

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 07:39 PM

oh and my Indian name is Corinne Unsavory Jackal when I put in catherine pettigrew and Marie Invisible Face with catherinejayne pettigrew then I thought I would try out being male...so catherinejayen was Wilton Turbulent Cigarette and catherine was..Tanner Aquatic Platypus

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 07:08 AM

cats p,

we must be related, my injun name is Tanner Toothless Horse! (don't ask why the long face!}

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: HuwG
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 09:41 AM

Tried the Indian Names generator, it came out as "Patrick Corrosive Chicken".

Puhleese ! What squaw would stagger out of the teepee having given birth and decide that the first creature she saw was a factory-farmed bird crossed with the monster from Alien ? And also know that it was from Ireland ?



For a bit more research into "Delenn", I pulled out a very old video of "Babylon 5", and watched it again. Gained some fascinating insights into some of the creatures. I didn't appreciate before just how badly Kosh and all the Vorlons (who were all called Kosh too) had emphysema. (I presume that was the cause of all the wheezing noise in the background whenever they spoke).

And yes, quite how the Minbari would ask for a hat size, must remain one of the mysteries of the Universe.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 10:51 AM

Looks like I'm Yoda.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 11:31 AM

I came up as Kosh, same as Gareth, only spelled differently!

Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 12:20 PM

i AGREE WITH THE OTHER aRTHUR dENT - iM JUST BEWILDERED BY all OF IT...
Anyway - how can you get the correct character when they don't ask questions you caN UNDERSTAND?
qUACK!
gTd.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 02:08 PM

HuWG, your European roots are showing, no one but the most racist individual in North America would say "what squaw would crawl out of a teepee". That is the equivalant of saying "what nigger would creep out of a shack". Puhleese!!! your comment for the sake of humour is obscene and offensive. I'll grant you the benefit of insular cultural ignorance, this once.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 03:57 PM

Huw - obviously 'corrosive chicken' comes from premature labour caused by a particularly vindictive chicken curry.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 05:08 PM

Geez, I got a 404 server error.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 06:19 PM

Surely "tipi" isn't offensive to anyone? They are brilliant structures. Anytime somoene brings one to a campsite at a festival or whatever, everyone else is green with envy.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 06:32 PM

I am Ripley from "Alien".

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: artbrooks
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 06:44 PM

The word squaw is not, or at least was not originally, offensive. Try here for a definition and discussion. The problem is, like many other basically inoffensive words, such as 'faggot,' 'liberal' and 'queer,' it has come to both have a meaning that was never intended and to be used offensively by intention.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 06:47 PM

It's the word "squaw" that is deemed offensive these days. It was a quasi-Indian slang word picked up by whites early in the frontier days and was used almost universally by them at that time to refer to Native women, and it often (though certainly not always) did have a derogatory implication. Depends who was using it and how. There was a time when some Native Americans themselves picked up the word from the whites and used it quite a bit in normal speech or writing...look up some of the older books (even by Natives) from the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's and so on, and you'll see that, but with passage of time it has come to be seen as very derogatory indeed, quite similarly to the way "nigger" is seen nowadays.

These things change. Is it okay now to refer to black children as "pickaninnies"? No! But it was once. It was also once thought very derogatory to refer to blacks as "blacks". Now it's perfectly all right to do so. Go figure. It is probably not thought good to refer to Amerindian/Indian/Native-American babies as "papooses", but it was once considered perfectly okay, and "papoose" was a word for baby in some Indian language. I wonder if it is equivalent to "rug rat"? (just kidding)

To keep up with these things it is necessary to first read the current official program, making sure it is the latest edition. If you are in ANY doubt about what word may offend someone, don't say anthing at all, just stammer helplessly and point...

But be assured, saying "squaw" may and probably will get you in "heap big" trouble, as Jay Silverheels might have said back in the 50's! :-) You won't catch me saying it anywhere.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: HuwG
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 09:10 PM

Ooooops !

May I comment, before replacing my size 11 in my mouth ?

I merely used the term, "squaw", to indicate, "Native American woman", without intending insult. Apologies if any 'Catters have been insulted. And apologies to any Irish who are insulted by my assumption that anyone called "Patrick" is automatically Irish, and vice versa.

I understand that the among such peoples as the Oglalla, Lakota etc, children were named after the first thing the mother saw, when she first went outside after the birth, "Red Cloud", "Dull Knife", etc. Which is the joke behind the Indian names site. And explains why even noted fighters could be named, "Man so afraid that in battle the sound of his own horses causes him to bolt" (usually referred to as "Man Afraid" in most histories).


I didn't know that "liberal" was an insult. Since I usually vote Liberal Democrat in UK General Elections, I ought to feel offended. However, I never did agree with the prescriptive, censorious approach to producing better understanding between cultures [An example; in my last year at school, directives went round that the use of the word "black" in any derogatory sense, e.g. "blackmail", "blackleg", "blacklist", "to blacken someone's character" etc. were banned. Fine, but the directive went so far as to became a source of sarcastic humour, by insisting that the "blackboard" was to become the "chalkboard", and that "Baa baa, black sheep" was not to be sung by five-year-olds, as it was offensive by definition. Any amount of reasoned debate was cheapened by such authoritarian attitudes.]

I ought also to object to being called a Welshman, as a: this derives from an anglo-saxon word meaning "foreigner", and b: it has connotations with turf accountants who default on their debts.

Insularity cuts all ways.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 03:29 AM

Well, Sian... tell me about the force!

Emma, I am also Luke Skywalker not so sure about that!

I'm off to try the indian names thing now - and tomorrow I'll try the sci fi name again... might be in a different mood then...

Ella aka Luke

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 03:34 AM

OK!....

Well, if I use my whole name I'm...

Shauna Favourite Puppy

If I use one of my shortened versions of my name I'm

Helena Sneaky jumper

and another is

Diane Clairvoyant Strawberry or Marie Skimpy Slug

I think I'll go with Luke...skimpy slug is just not me!

coo it gets worse.... Mildred Dusty Flea

Hmmmm!

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Metchosin
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 03:49 AM

HuwG, please do not be affronted but, I don't believe you quite grasped the depth of the insult. If one of my friends is referred to as a "squaw", remind me to let her know that, in some parts of the world, there are some that believe it was only the equivalent of being referred to as a "foreigner" in one's own country or reneging on a debt.

Somehow I don't believe she will accept an equivalency. "Squaw" is a far more derogatory, loaded term, with demeaning connotations, packed with the intention of being deliberately hurtful. I don't think there are many in Wales would cringe every time they heard themselves being referred to as Welsh, but I'm damned certain there are a few that wouldn't care to be called "nigger".

Unfortunately, in this part of the world, racism raises its ugly head more than one would wish. There is more than only a subtle difference to be referred to as "foreigner" or have one's ethnicity associated with nefarious business practices in the distant past.

Sincerely,
Metchosin (from the Ka-Ky-Aakan word "Smets-shosin" meaning "smells like rotting fish", which I believe affords me the right to express my humble opinion in this matter).*BG*

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 05:31 AM

I appear to be the only Gimli so far. Still, I prefer that to "Hank Sassy Pants!"

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Pied Piper
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 06:07 AM

Neil Vibrating Landrover
PP

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 06:44 AM

I think that I'd choose Lazarus Long - from Robert Heinlen's "Methusalah's Children" and "Time Enough For Love".

At least he's got plenty of time to get things done,

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: C-flat
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 06:52 AM

I can't get the Sci-Fi one to work but the Indian name site gave me
Raoul Inimitable Humpback!?!

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Joybell
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 06:57 AM

Oh !! Great!! I knew I was Captain Kirk. Now I have the test results to prove it. I've been Kirk since before he was born. Years and years ago.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Noreen
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 07:03 AM

I'm also Delenn from Babylon 5 (and Lucille Amiable Brains...)

Metchosin, HuwG has apologised, and nowhere did he say the insults were equivalent, as you are suggesting.

Like Huw, I (living in England) had no idea that the word squaw could be offensive, and could just as easily have made the same mistake for which you are criticising him.

You say this term is packed with the intention of being deliberately hurtful and so I can understand your reaction, but can you also understand that his intention was NOT to be deliberately hurtful??

I am sure there are terms from another culture unknown to you that you might unwittingly use which might be taken as offensive. The important thing is the intention.

One has to make allowances, or as Little Hawk cleverly puts it, we couldn't communicate at all.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 09:09 AM

Incidently the character that I got out of the test was Elrond (from LOTR) described as A stern yet benevolent organizer who often knows best, your wits are keenly fixed on aiding efforts you deem worthy. I seem to be the only one on this thread to get him so far - bit scary really.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: JennyO
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 09:14 AM

Indian names are more fun. Depending on whether I put my whole name, an abbreviation, my maiden name, or my middle initial, I get Priscilla Weary Goat, or Daisy Licorice Palomino, or Stella Collapsing Radical, or Sandra Reversible Toad, or Denthwerp Coy Bunny if I say I'm a male. If I call myself "Late for Breakfast", I get Roman Inimitable Humpback.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 10:26 AM

I'm Dr Who, played by William Hartnell: very erudite, getting on a bit, slightly prickly, and nobody ever has any idea what I'm talking about.

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 10:31 AM

Apparently I'm really "Marcus Cole" of Babylon 5. Do i need to watch it to understand that?

Roger: a bit slim for Digby! Can you do the accent, by gum? Who'd you nominate for the Mekon (now Mrs T is out of office)?

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: The Barden of England
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 11:06 AM

Bugger it!! James T. Kirk!!!! I just can't take the ridicule!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Metchosin
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 01:40 PM

Noreen

HuWG qualified his apology with "I ought also to object to being called a Welshman, as a: this derives from an anglo-saxon word meaning "foreigner", and b: it has connotations with turf accountants who default on their debts. Insularity cuts all ways."

I wouldn't nitpick if I weren't perhaps overly sensitieve to the fact that attitudes such as this are rampant in Canadian society, especially when it comes to First Nations people and particularly females.

Initially, I had no doubt that HuWG had not meant to be hurtful, just unaware of the depth of the negative connotations of the term.

However, IMO, when he qualified his apology, there appeared to be an attempt, on his part, to diminish that apology. Just a simple "Gee, I wasn't aware of that, sorry!" might have been a better response. But we're all human, even us nitpickers who sometimes flog dead horses, in hope of raising awareness of something that is unfortunately insidious in our own culture.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 03:26 PM

Marvin the Paranoid Android.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: jacqui c
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 03:46 PM

Marcus Cole is a ranger in Babylon 5, basically one of the good guys trying to fight the evil. He is high principled, idealistic and tries hard to do the right thing. He dies in the series saving the life of the woman he loves - she was not aware of his feelings. Altogether a nice guy, although maybe a little naive.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Cluin
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 07:15 PM

Luke Skywalker, me.


Too bad. Always despised the little shit.
Rather be Gully Foyle.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: RangerSteve
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 07:45 PM

I'm Gandalf. I don't see the connection. But I'm honored.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: GUEST,Beeblebrox
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 07:54 PM

Zaphod here! Get out of my galaxy

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 04:07 AM

"a nice guy, although maybe a little naive" That's me! And I thought I'd lied in the questionnaire ...

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 04:45 AM

Today I am mostly...

Aragorn? hmmmm.....

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: GUEST,KB
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 06:56 AM

Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
I am a Gollum!!!! How did that happen? Ah well - I always rather liked Gollum my precious. What's he got in his pocketses, that's what I want to know.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 08:17 AM

Me too slim for Digby? How kind,Steve. If I grow a 'tache I could be Sir Hubert I expect! Ian Duncan Smith IS the Mekon of course!

RtS

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Kim C
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 11:10 AM

Spock.

That doesn't seem logical to me.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: GUEST,Chip2447
Date: 08 Oct 03 - 03:16 AM

I got a Worf...hmmmmm does that mean I need to lighten up a bit?

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Carly
Date: 08 Oct 03 - 12:16 PM

Another Galadriel joins the ranks. Second time through, I opted to answer as my more rational persona, and out popped Jean-Luc Picard. It's not that I don't admire both characters, but I tend to actually relate more to Podkayne, Mia Havero and Menolly ( who would'nt want musical talent and pet dragons?)

So, BillD, just who are you relating to? (Your curious friend)

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Kim C
Date: 08 Oct 03 - 12:32 PM

Heheh! Mister took the test and he's Aragorn! Which is a scream, because that's his favorite LOTR character.

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 06:16 AM

hmmmm... today I'm not in a good mood and I'm ...

Roy Batty.... (he not nice - I'm going to go cheer up!)

:-(

Ella

Subject: RE: BS: What Sci Fi Character are you?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 12:10 PM

Elrond. Interesting.

SRS