The Three Crows folk group

Subject: RE: The Three Crows folk group
From: GUEST,Spot
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 05:52 PM

Cattail....Malcolm Price.... I said I'd never heard of him... I was wrong... a year or so in a music shop in Heald Green I was sampling a McElroy guitar...this big guy was pickin away... somewhat brilliantly.. in fact, very very brilliantly!! We got nattering, as you do...turns out to be he himself. The name meant nowt to me .. but he was some guitar player...wish I had some of his stuff....These memory juices are weird..!! Dont think he's much into folk nowadays..
                      Regards to all   Spot

Subject: RE: The Three Crows folk group
From: GUEST,Spot
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 02:48 PM

Cattail... Thanks for info... hoping you can put summat on tape at some stage...would be eternally grateful...!!Re Malcolm Price... in a word or two - I've not heard of him at all!! Sorry mate.!! I don't think I was around Stockport area in 71.. I moved up North and stayed there for neckend o' 20 years ( wish I still was!!)Afraid I dont recall said shop, either, though I did buy an LL11 Yamaha from a shop in same vicinity, just a couple of years ago..Excellent piece of kit for dosh!!   keep me posted ...cheers..
                  
             regards to all       Spot   
   
( More apologies to Pete A. re original thread gone astray...)

Subject: RE: The Three Crows folk group
From: Cattail
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 02:09 PM

By the way Spot, do you happen to know if Malcome Price was a local
lad? (I.E. Manchester, Stockport.)

I seem to remember somebody telling me that he and his brother ran
the music shop which was in the market place at Stockport, near the
church, circa 1972 - 1975 ish. I can't remember it being there for
long though.

I have a couple of albums, one by Malcome Price and one by
The Malcome Price Trio, both nice albums, and seeing them got my
curiosity going.


Cheers again.

Cattail !

Subject: RE: The Three Crows folk group
From: Cattail
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 01:45 PM

Hi Spot, know exactly what you mean about your last post, been there,
done that!

I am not set up to do any recording of anything at the moment I'm
sorry to say, I badly need to get some of my vinyl on to cd, (if only
so I can have a listen myself), but given the size of my house I'm
finding it difficult to gather everything into one place so that I
can do it, (plus getting my head round the vinyl to cd question).

I will have a furthur look at what can be done, and if I can do
something for you I will.

Leave it with me, and yes, I will keep you informed.

Cheers for now.

Cattail !

Subject: RE: The Three Crows folk group
From: GUEST,Spot
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 11:09 AM

Sorry.. last message from me not Pennine Folk... me eads gone...!!

    regards Spot

Subject: RE: The Three Crows folk group
From: GUEST,Pennines
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 07:23 AM

Cattail.... Marvellous news re Pennine Folk   ... I recall most of those songs...1971...!!!Cant believe its that long ago!) Is there any way I could get hold of a copy?? Please, please ,please... Keep me informed.....
      regards to all   Spot

Subject: RE: The Three Crows folk group
From: Cattail
Date: 08 Nov 03 - 08:35 PM

Hi to you all, again.

I *knew* I had it *somewhere*! I DO have a Pennines disk.
(I just couldn't FIND the d%%n thing)

Came across it today stuck to another one, (Flamin' labels)

Anyway, the sleeve notes say that the band line-up was as follows:-

Margaret Whitehead (Lead vocals)
Ken Campbell           (Vocals + songwriter)
Chris Swann           (Lead guitar)
Frank Clapton           (Bass vocals)
Pete Astles           (Rhythm guitar + tenor vocals)

It is on Pennyfarthing records. (Are they still going? Have phone No
and address if they are)

Album No: PELS 514.    Date: 1971

The album was called "Manchester Morning", (all the tracks were
written by the pennines), and were as follows:-

Side 1

Manchester morning
Danny McCann
Arrabella
Humpty Dan
Time was
The king comes riding

Side 2

Phoenix
Don't cry (Don't bow your head)
Esmerelda
Highland song
Eleanor Cavannaugh
Gentlemen of fortune
Manchester morning (Reprise)

This is certainly a fine album, it doesn't say on the sleeve notes if they have made any others, shame if they didn't.

Hope this helps, (or just brings back a few more memories).
Sorry once again for the previous mistake.

Cheers

Cattail !

Subject: RE: The Three Crows folk group
From: GUEST, Cattail (with lost cookie AGAIN!)
Date: 02 Nov 03 - 02:50 PM

Hi Harry, Peter, Spot, Guest Etc.

Just logged on to post this, and yes, you beat me to it. Had to happen
didn't it? Anyway I'll get it off quickly before anyone else berates
me for my mistake. Thanks again to you all.


*** DUFF INFORMATION ALERT ***

May I bow my head in shame, and offer you my abject apologies for my
last post, (I can only blame it on the fireworks which rattled my
two brain cells around for about three hours last night).

The band who ran the club at "the Two Brewers" in Salford, and who
then went on to run the club at Hyde United football club were NOT
the Pennine folk but the FOUR FOLK.

All other information is still correct. (I think, *BG*)

It's times like these that make you realise that you're not as young
as you thought you were, and incidentally, my memories are going back
to 1968 - 1971 ish, so maybe the Pennines took over from the Four Folk.
after then.

Sorry once again for confusing the issue.

Cheers to you all

Cattail !

P.S. Thanks for your kind offer Harry, but I'm now even further
away from your area than I was before, not a terrific distance away,
but I'm not a great traveller, (I hate driving these days), and my wife
and I were never social animals at the best of times, so we don't tend
to get out too much, this may change if we move to a different area
of course, but we'll see about that in the next year or so.

Cheers

Cattail !

Subject: RE: The Three Crows folk group
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 02 Nov 03 - 02:15 PM

Fran (vocals and mandolin) of the Three Crows died last year i think...

Subject: RE: The Three Crows folk group
From: GUEST,Spot
Date: 02 Nov 03 - 01:33 PM

Cattail...I think we could have our wires crossed re Pennine Folk band. Ken Campbell, Pete Astle, Ken Clark(I think), Chris ?? , Margaret?? and Dianne ?? were the ones of Hyde fame, though some second names are lost to me..Crackin band - I saw some damn good other performers there, too!! Do those names ring a bell at all...???It would be circa'67. Did they ever record anything?? Sorry Pete - not Crows info but ....its the juices again!!!
                Regards to all...... Spot

Subject: RE: The Three Crows folk group
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 02 Nov 03 - 08:02 AM

Hi. Cattail...

         No need to be sorry - - it was a lovely posting and very interesting. I don't know where you're based now but if you're ever in the vicinity you'd be more than welcome at the Open Door Folk club in Chadderton.

         I'm pretty sure Jim Schofield has his own website...if so a Google search should throw it up.

         All the Best...

                Harry Basnett.

Subject: RE: The Three Crows folk group
From: Cattail
Date: 01 Nov 03 - 08:28 PM

Hi Peter, Guest, Harry and others out there.

I have no information on the Crows, but have fond memories of the Pennines, as I was a member of their club when it was held at the
Two Brewers pub on Regent Road in Salford. The band members,
(Ash Lawrence, Peter Bowker, Bryan Down and Edward "Ted" Hardy),
ran a wonderful club there, always teaching us new songs and encouraging us to sing, the last song of the evening was always
"Dirty Old Town" softly sung by all in the room, you could almost
have heard the proverbial pin drop, and it quite often almost made you cry it was so lovely.

If you're out there lads, thanks so much for giving us so many good nights, good songs and wonderful memories.

After such a lovely evening it was usually the six mile walk home to
South Manchester as I had no transport at the time, and when they moved
to Hyde it was more difficult to get to and I never went there.

They did release an album on the Reality label (North Watford, Herts)
(No: RY 1003) entitled "Hard Cases". The tracks were.

Hard case
Come all you fair and tender ladies
The tin gee-gee
Evening of roses
Santianna
Dirty old town

The dodger
The cruel war
Carrion crow
The gipsy rover
The white buck of Epping
The leaving of Liverpool

I never saw Tickawinda live but have an album of theirs, on the
Pennine records label (Pennine Sound Studio, Oldham. No: PSS 153LP)
The band members according to the record sleeve are as follows.

Kath Richmond, Alison Tulloch, David Birchwood, Jim Schofield, and
Clive Gregson.

The tracks were:

John barleycorn
Coalhole cavalry
She moves through the fair
Old Pendle
Young Man
Cold and raw
The blackleg miner

Rosemary Lane
A lyke wake dirge
The galtee farmer
The weary cutters
Go your way
And the band played waltzing Matilda

The "Galtee farmer" together with "young man" are also on a CD called
"A Lot of Jolly Good Folk" issued by The National Trust and available
from their shops.

If anyone would like a track list of this CD I will put it on for you.

Sorry for the long post and the waffle but you got the memory juices
flowing, so it's all your fault. But thanks for bringing it all back!

Cheers to you all.

Cattail !

Subject: RE: The Three Crows folk group
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 01 Nov 03 - 03:12 PM

The Three Crows were residents at the Junction Inn, Mottram...as for Tickawinda - - Jim Schofield who was a member of that group of worthies runs the Cross Keys Folk Club in Uppermill as well as the Station Buffet Bar session at Stalybridge..and I think the Tickawinda album is available on CD.

'Coal Hole Cavalry' was written by Ted Edwards.

All the Best...Harry.

Subject: RE: The Three Crows folk group
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Nov 03 - 01:10 PM

Now then Peter..
                      I remember the Crows but only in as much as I think they might have practised in The Broad Oak pub, somewhere in Ashton.Could one of them have been called Francis Delaney??? (Franny). This was about the time of the Hyde folk club at Ewen Fields footy club, which I followed for several years. Anyone remember The Pennine Folk? T'was a damn good club..!! Pennine Folk, I think were Pete Astle, Chris summat(bass), Ken Clark, another guy with a very deep voice and two lasses with brilliant harmonies. Any info on them?
                      N idea re music, though...sorry

          Regards to all...Spot

Subject: The Three Crows folk group
From: GUEST,Peter F Allsopp
Date: 31 Oct 03 - 07:45 PM

Does anyone know of a seventies group called The Three Crows who were based at a pub in Mottram Cheshire. Also at the same time were a young folk group called 'Tickawinda' for Ashton-u-Lyne lancashire who recorded a song called 'Coal Hole Cavalry'

Any info and where I can aquire this music would be greatly appreciated.


Regards

Peter F Allsopp