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BS: Newspeak Now!! Make History Conform!

Amos 12 Nov 03 - 02:34 PM
GUEST,Peter from Essex 12 Nov 03 - 03:27 PM
jeffp 12 Nov 03 - 04:07 PM
Wolfgang 12 Nov 03 - 04:23 PM
LadyJean 13 Nov 03 - 12:30 AM
Peace 14 Nov 03 - 08:41 PM

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Subject: BS: Newspeak Now!! Make History Conform!
From: Amos
Date: 12 Nov 03 - 02:34 PM

From a mailing list:


Subject: why did TIME censor George H.W. Bush's quotes from its web-site?!

Where is Orwell when we need him to remind us. djf

Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:05:51 -0800
To: State and Local Freedom of Information Issues ,
   
From: Jim Warren
Subject: why did TIME censor George H.W. Bush's quotes from its web-site?!

>http://www.thememoryhole.org/mil/bushsr-iraq.htm


On 21 September 2002, The Memory Hole posted an extract from an essay by
George Bush Sr. and Brent Scowcroft, in which they explain why they didn't
have the military push into Iraq and topple Saddam during Gulf War 1.
Although there are differences between the Iraq situations in 1991 and
2002-3, Bush's key points apply to both.

But a funny thing happened. Fairly recently, Time pulled the essay off of
their site. It used to be at this link, which now gives a 404 error. If you
go to the table of contents for the issue in which the essay appeared (2
March 1998), "Why We Didn't Remove Saddam" is conspicuously absent.

Because of this erasure, we're posting the entire essay below the portion
we originally excerpted. Below that, you'll find a copy of the actual page
from the magazine ...


Regards,

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak Now!! Make History Conform!
From: GUEST,Peter from Essex
Date: 12 Nov 03 - 03:27 PM

How long to TIME articles normally stay on line? What articles of same or greater age have been left on line to prove that this one was explicitly pulled?

Evidence please not the usual bollocks about "conspiracies"


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Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak Now!! Make History Conform!
From: jeffp
Date: 12 Nov 03 - 04:07 PM

Their archives allow searching of "all Time issues since 1985."


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Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak Now!! Make History Conform!
From: Wolfgang
Date: 12 Nov 03 - 04:23 PM

why did TIME censor George H.W. Bush's quotes from its web-site?

Having now read that article I'd say at the request of the senior author. Which is lamentable for a couple of reasons but cannot be called 'censoring' in any sense of that word.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak Now!! Make History Conform!
From: LadyJean
Date: 13 Nov 03 - 12:30 AM

George I explained in his autobiography why he didn't ivade Iraq and remove Saddam. Someone read his explanation at the last Howard Dean meet up. I'm sure the autobiography is still in print, and I'm sure the Shrub wishes it wasn't.


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Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak Now!! Make History Conform!
From: Peace
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 08:41 PM

Ah, the utility of the autobiography to set the record straight.


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