President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: Teribus
Date: 16 Nov 03 - 08:17 AM

Richard Bridge - The questions posed in your post of 14 Nov 03 - 07:34 PM, seem to pre-suppose that only one person is guilty of the charges you level. Do you sincerely believe that - numerous mass grave sites in Iraq would seem to suggest otherwise.

As to "colonisation" - hardly.

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: Hrothgar
Date: 16 Nov 03 - 06:32 AM

Who says it won't be a good photo opportunity for the Queen? Afterwards she can go around saying "This is what you get if you form a republic!"

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: AliUK
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 05:18 PM

He´s going t the UK because he needs to give instructions to his subjects The Royals and Boney Tony.

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: Peter T.
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 09:05 AM

Protesting is bearing witness against injustice. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. It doesn't matter. What matters is that someone says that you are not getting a free ride on this, that no one cares. In Canada, mass protests kept us out of the war. The protest was not in favour of Saddam or against Iraq. It was against one nation (or two, including Britain) deciding to go to war just because it felt like it. Nothing that has happened subsequently has changed that. If I were in Britain I would be out on the streets (probably because hotel prices are so high (joke)).

yours,

Peter T.

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: kendall
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 08:06 AM

...the Americans who dont like the British? Who would that be? I dont know any except the IRA supporters, and I don't know any of them first hand. We can hate what the British government does without hating the people, just as they can hate what our government does without hating us personally.

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: Tam the Bam (Nutter)
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 08:04 AM

I agree Saddam was a evil person, and as you say he had to go.

Tom frae Saltcoats

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 07:12 AM

The war with Iraq wasn't contemplated 18 months ago?   So what was Bush talking about when in January last year he listed Iraq in his "axis of evil" speech ?

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: smallpiper
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 06:01 AM

I think its a great idea - clear central london then there will be no chance of any photos of chearing (heckling) crowds. And wouldn't that say a lot to the power brokers if no one, no one at all turned out to see him!

I just love what some of the families are saying about bush - you know the families of those british soldiers killed in his war - now wouldn't it be great if a family agreed to pray with him especially if they were muslims!

Don't get me wrong sadam had to go (IMO) but not for the reasons Bush/Blair gave.

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: Tam the Bam (Nutter)
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 05:21 AM

I quite like George Bush, aye when he's back in bloody America. I know what he should do is take a wee tour of Iraq without his body gaurds.

Tom Frae Saltcoats

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 11:56 PM

Apparently the trip was planned 18 months ago, before the war was contemplated. No-one now has the balls to tell him not to come. It's like inviting the smelly great aunt to a family do... no-body likes or wants her, but neither can anyone tell her.

However, his triumphant ride with the Queen down the Mall has been cancelled - they weren't too sure of getting the cheering crowds and if they did, weren't sure that they would be cheering with the right words.

The CIA wants Central London cleared of people, just in case!

LTS

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 10:39 PM

THanks you guys At least we get a vaction from him over here. I wish "sorry" did it . We have so much to wake up to over here. Well><><><   just change the chanel and eveything will be just fine.

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: GUEST,Richard H
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 10:24 PM

Just read where Bush will be surrounded by a "bubble" of 700 American agents wherever he goes.

When he's taking a shower with those guys all watching, could that be considered a "bubble" bath?

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 08:20 PM

Why, Richard, do you think the US bowed out of the World Court?

Hmmmmmmmm?

Bobert

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 07:34 PM

Why is the sytematic use of force against the civilian populations of Afghanistan and Iraq not treated as an international war crime?

Who will arrest him, and which tribunal will try him?

Or will those who defend their homelands from his colonisation succeed in legitimate use of force to induce regime change?

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: akenaton
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 07:28 PM

Mcgrath ...I take your point regarding American motives for the visit.But I agree with Self's point that its all another left cop out ,Blame America and let our own criminals off the hook. When Blair took the decision to throw in his lot with America,British public opinion was very much against the war...Ake

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 07:26 PM

Any ideas?

Yeah. Keep him...

Bobert

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 07:13 PM

You could go with a poster saying "Saddam Out 2003 - Bush Out 2004" or something like that. Just the kind of thing that might get a photo took of it.

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: Gareth
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 07:06 PM

I must admit I was tempted to go and protest, for there is plenty any sensible person could could object to in Unelectd President Bush - Such as Kyoto, Trade Wars, Election Rigging, Etc.

But I sat and thought and the answer was no.

The reason - my presence might have been taken as opposition to Iraq and Afghanistan, and this would not be moral or fair.

Gareth

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 06:40 PM

Duplicate thread here - this one and "UK Anti Bush Protests" - so I'll post my reply to akenaton here.

Interesting to hear Will Self on BBCTV,harangue anti Bush protesters. He reckons they are wasting their time,and should be trying to de-select Blairite parliamentary candidates.I think I agree with him ...

The purpose of demonstrating is primarily to show Americans that, whatever they may have been told, there is very little popular support for Bush in this country.

Mind you might even help Bush among those Americans who don't much like the UK. However the impression I have got is that it's seen as quite important to assert that America does have some significant backing abroad, which is very questionable; and even that Bush is held in high esteem, which is certainly not true.

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: wilbyhillbilly
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 06:14 PM

SO, all we need now is a No.10 BUTLER or Aide to spill the beans.

They didn't did they, not them as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 05:37 PM

Why are you coming?
Why are you coming?
Why are you coming?
Oh why, why, why?
Why are you coming?
Why are you coming?
Why are you coming?
Why are you coming?
Why are you coming?
Oh why, why, why?

When are you going...

And so on, until he goes (to the tune of Oh Come All you Faithful, of course.)

Mind we all know why he's coming, it's all part of the pre-election campaign, to get pictures of him with the Queen for the adverts. Also of cheering crowds in the streets of London no doubt, or at least that would have been the idea - but I somehow don't think there'll be too many of them.

But the real puzzle is, what the hell is anyone in this country getting out of it? It's not as if anyone would want him to win the next election. I mean, even for most of our Tories, the Democrats are far more similar in their politics than Bush's brand of Republican. And photo-opportunities with Bush are the last thing Blair wants. In fact they are the last thing the poor old Queen wants either.

I was talking to somebody today and they were suggesting the only reason for all this must be that Bush has some kind of threat he is holding over Blair - something that he wouldn't want revealed...

Subject: RE: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: wilbyhillbilly
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 05:15 PM

My thought is "What is this doing in the music threads""??
Is there a musical connection? If so, WHAT!
I'm sure someone will come up with something suitable.

Sugarbush maybe!

Wilby

Subject: President (yeah right) Bush coming to UK
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 05:04 PM

Any thoughts?