Subject: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 03 Jan 04 - 05:19 PM Conspicular put downs, irritation the craftings Provocateur frowns, and feast throught the fastings To grasp at your goat, thus to trip inspirations Will rock your fine boat, and resist revelations. These cowards will sneak, these cowards will slight The anonymous speak, not of love or delight Surreptitiously vulgar, these vultures attack And shoot as an orge, the truth in the back With snappy invective, no research is needed To disrupt the effective, keeps the hearld unheeded These guests will respect, only squandering quench Their thirst but a durst, their truth but a stench To revel disorder, and ravel remorse They stradle the border, of an unseemly course Resenting upstanding, in spirit and kind This nameless resounding, from bowers that bind... ttr |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Murray MacLeod Date: 03 Jan 04 - 05:38 PM Have you ever had any of your poetry published, Thomas ? |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Nigel Parsons Date: 03 Jan 04 - 05:41 PM This rhyme seems to echo "The Rhymer's" frustration With Guests posts which are a self-justification And tho' I approve of his rhyming oration The 'count' does not match his syllabification And tho' he condemns them all, roundly, as 'pests' Their writings are littered with learning and jests And so, then, no matter how Thomas protests As hosts we must treat them, politely, as Guests Nigel |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Murray MacLeod Date: 03 Jan 04 - 05:49 PM Methinks that the Rhymer doth loudly protest To curry good favour with all of the rest Who vilify Guests and their interesting posts. They signify least who bellow the most. Piece of piss, took me 30 seconds and I didn't even have to make up my own words ... |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Nigel Parsons Date: 03 Jan 04 - 05:56 PM Murray: Which words of mine or TTR's appear 'made up'? Nigel |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:06 PM Some genius there is, in a safer place haven In some of GUEST's biz, not all of it's craven But neither is mention, of name an abhorrence Or cause for detention for Arabia's Lawrence Fault finders rally, for nonsense contagious And band it all up, for the nameless outrageous But guts and then pride, will have little to do With a blindsiding chide, and no name to eschew... ttr |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:10 PM Roses are red Violets are blue Monkeys stink And so does your poetry! :-) Seriously, kiddo. Don't quit your day job quite yet. Yeah, anonymous messages are like a bad case of fleas. Annoying and hard to trace to their hiding places. But I never met a flea yet that wrote poetry as topheavy as yours, buster. I bet you don't talk to the hatcheck girl that way. It wouldn't get you too far, I can tell you that. She'd probably just say..."What????"...and give you a weird look, then hand back your hat with a sneer and say, "Conspiculate that, Roscoe." CC |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:26 PM See what I mean, you impecable boar... As one critic will glean, another wants no more But as poet, I know it I'll never make money For my work when I show it, is but milk and honey The day job for me is much better than art And many agree that your music's a fart So sit there and hate... and love is your loss Or with me relate, and we'll need us no boss So flirt with the ladies each in his own way Or just sit and beratie the things that I say But cynics are stupid to those who enjoy The fine eye of cupid... tis all may enjoy! ttr |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Murray MacLeod Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:45 PM Nigel, "orge", "hearld", "stradle", and "durst" leap off the screen. There may be more, but reading Thomas' "poetry" hurts my brain too much. And before anybody leaps in to say that "durst" is a participle of the verb "to dare", yes, I do know that, but it has no meaning in Thomas' little oeuvre. |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:48 PM I gotta admire your vocabulary, Bub, but I still say you need to brush up on the poetry technique. For instance, it's bad form to end the last 2 lines in a poem with the same word..."enjoy". A 5th Grader would know that. You gotta come up with a different word for one of them lines...like "toy" or "boy" or "ploy". Here's my suggestion: But cynics are stupid to those who employ The fine eye of cupid, which all may enjoy! Betcha didn't think I had it in me, didja? Also, "impeccable" has two "C"'s. Just the the good old USA, only they're in the middle instead of one on each side. CC |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:50 PM Now GUESTS with a name can be well worth perusing, And much that they write is informed or amusing; But those who insist on declining all handles Persistently tend to become vicious vandals. And even when nameless GUESTS write something wise They soon get confused with the rancorous cries Of venom exuded by some nameless clone Who is ready and willing to cast the first stone. And if you decide to reply to some ghost It's essential to add date and time of their post, To avoid the confusion of multiple GUESTS Who all use the same name, so it gets in a mess. And the moral of this isn't hard to explain, It's that manners dictate friendly GUESTS use a name. Be it ever so fleeting, be it quite evanescent, A name makes a thread more straightforward and pleasant. So all GUESTS are welcome, of that there's no question, So long as they're willing to take that suggestion - And as for the rest, they just spoil my digestion. |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Murray MacLeod Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:52 PM Chongo, fer chrissakes don't offer constructive literary criticism, you will only encourage him to grind out some more doggerel .... |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Murray MacLeod Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:54 PM Trust Kevin to ruin this thread by posting a clever and well written piece.... |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 03 Jan 04 - 07:03 PM Ha! You made me laugh right out loud, Murray. Thanks. I needed that. It's been a tough week. McGrath, you are dead right. These jerks who can't even be bothered to type any kind of a name to go with their posts need a cold gat stuck in their face once in a while to make 'em sober up and talk straight for a change and show some ID. And, McGrath...that was good poetry you just did. If another one of my pals buys the Big One, I am gonna call you up to do his epitaph. CC |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Clinton Hammond Date: 03 Jan 04 - 07:08 PM Only people who don't know any better think there's such a thing as internet anonymity... And well, how is posting as GUEST any different from posting under an obvious nick-name? TtR just needs something to whine and suck about... I mean, as I said elsewhere.. it's just the internet... Why make it seem to be important? Take only what you want, and leave the rest for someone else... |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: catspaw49 Date: 03 Jan 04 - 07:14 PM Hey Clinton! Your shit don't rhyme man!!! Took me a long time to read it 'cause I kept trying to make it rhyme......... Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Murray MacLeod Date: 03 Jan 04 - 07:18 PM Clinton's shit rhymes better than Thomas' shit |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 03 Jan 04 - 07:23 PM That's as may be - but his posts don't. (In a rhyming thread I think they oughter - and it makes the posts a whole lot shorter.) |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 03 Jan 04 - 08:23 PM Clinton's complaining betrays her ambitions By crassly detaining, she deleats additions While Murray insists, I'm foul and a headache And my 'day job' exists, as a last resort mistake I'f you met me you'd know in a matter of minutes That the ire you show is a waste to begin with But you measure all meaning with muscle and might On an internet seething with alure and a fight. Take you a gander, and open it uppence A mindful intender, instead of resentence Give it a rest all, this slicker sharpshooting Where is your best call, for worldly rerouting? ttr |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 03 Jan 04 - 09:16 PM Who says I'm resentful, ttr? I don't resent you at all, just havin' a little fun. Look, buddy, when your office and your car get blown sky high, your favorite eatery gets blasted to hell, and your friends get rubbed out right and left you don't get mad over some lousy poetry. I'm just gettin' some light entertainment at your expense here is all. You think your stuff is bad? You oughta have heard Big Daddy singin' "Big Rock Candy Mountain" and "Bluetail Fly"! If you had, you would know what's bad... Now as for Clinton and "her" ambitions...I have seen mug shots of Clinton, ttr. If Clinton is a "she" then I am a bald albino rhesus monkey carrying twin koala bear cubs, and I ain't. Clinton as a "she" would be the biggest shock to the world since seeing Ma Barker in the nude packin' a blazing tommy gun. Such things you don't wanna ever see, not even when you've got the DT's. Trust me. CC |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 03 Jan 04 - 10:07 PM Nice try, GUEST... Clinton is probably just a handle for a housewife aspirant who secretly tries on macho... ;^) All I have to do is PM my password, and anyone can post under my 'handle'... Or then again, anyone can post as a 'named' GUEST anytime... So, that GUEST on post 20 was probably Clinton, posing as a GUEST... But remember, "Clinton" just a handle... |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: GUEST,Martin Gibson Date: 03 Jan 04 - 11:15 PM Worst of all poetry I have ever read, actually. |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 03 Jan 04 - 11:24 PM Coming from you, martin, I'll take it as a compliment! |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: GUEST,Pict Date: 03 Jan 04 - 11:48 PM Oh please stop your pooh etry is a flop it really is the crud of the crop and like ordure rhymes do plop like so much runny slop and it's stinking every drop I think it's time you got the chop Guests would be glad to lop sad Thomas the malaprop a PLOOK that needs to POP. |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Clinton Hammond Date: 03 Jan 04 - 11:56 PM Clinton is not just a handle... ask my mom... Or ask the mudcatter's who've met me... TtR... it's another example of you being a overwraught spaz... And casting stones from your own glass house... Oh ya... rhyming poetry sucks... |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 04 Jan 04 - 01:11 AM That's what makes horse racing... Well then... Cool, Clinton... I've heard good things 'bout your music... But... do you sing songs that don't rhyme? Frankly though, I have no preference as to whether my poetry is good or not... I toss together the words within a few spare minutes and I do it for the process... keeps my craft alive... kinda like a writer persues crossword puzzles. Are they really so worthy of comment? My songs, however, are actually constructed with care... 'sbeen fun! ttr |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: GUEST,Russ Date: 04 Jan 04 - 01:16 AM As guest bashings go this is way more interesting than the usual. But it's only January 4. It's going to be a long year. Russ (incorrigible GUEST) |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Dave the Gnome Date: 04 Jan 04 - 05:13 AM Anyone here a Vogon by any chance? :D |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: GUEST,Peter from Essex Date: 04 Jan 04 - 08:15 AM Of the major folk forums this is the only one I know that permits GUEST postings. People who have a problem with GUEST postings have an easy solution: use a members only forum. |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Guessed Date: 04 Jan 04 - 08:18 AM Who are you calling a coward? |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: GUEST,Termagant Date: 04 Jan 04 - 11:57 AM "People who have a problem with GUEST postings have an easy solution: use a members only forum." While you offer an elegant solution to those who are obviously disturbed by the presence of anonymous forum users Peter, I'm sure you realize the reason so many members use this forum exclusively. They get their daily passive/aggressive fix here. Can you think of any other folk forums where members would be allowed to constantly and routinely attack, belittle, and so persistently harp about a specific group of forum users with impunity? Dysfunctional passive/aggressive personalities are richly rewarded here. That is why they stay and continue to multiply. No other folk forums on the internet will have them. As to the "poetry". I wouldn't call it that. I'm voting with the side that says we shouldn't encourage this sort of thing. |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Peg Date: 04 Jan 04 - 11:58 AM Methinks it's amusing and not a little sad, to spend time perusing and labelling as 'bad' words that so clearly are meant as a lark, (an exaltation, say) fuelled by the spark of a spirit who's generally laid-back and gentle, (if he were a soup,I think he'd be lentil). |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Jan 04 - 01:05 PM Excellent, Peg! Now we're getting somewhere. Termagant, you may be right about the passive-aggressive thing...in some cases. If so, this forum is providing a public service to the very people you mention. But I think there's a far simpler explanation. The regulars come here simply because they are already used to coming here, that's all, and they've gotten to know other people here that they enjoy talking to. In my case, this is the only music forum I've ever visited. Period. It's the only forum of any kind I've spent any significant amount of time on. Mostly I enjoy it. I'm blissfully unaware of what it's like on the various other Internet forums, because I haven't been to them. Therefore, any convoluted explanation for the psychological garbage that supposedly resides behind my decision to keep logging onto this forum is mere whistling in the dark. I have no objection to the idea of a forum that has "Guests". Some people here do. Well, from what you say it sounds like there are any number of other places they could go and be "guest-free", but I guess they are so used to being here that they don't want to. - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Amos Date: 04 Jan 04 - 01:38 PM Guests as such are generally welcome throughout Mudcatland, when they are civil. It is anonymous hatred and its various derivative forms (sniping, vituperation, carping, criticism, generalization of badness, etc ad nauseam) which are not. A |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 04 Jan 04 - 01:45 PM A goof and a lark, and at little expense In minutes but few, of brain I'm just dense And sad yes it is, that the legions are many Who burn up the bridge, and set fires a'plenty So who on a lark can let on in expression That biters will bark, and live for digression Without stirring about, the essential confusion That is living in doubt, and enjoys the illusion ttr |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 04 Jan 04 - 01:46 PM I suggest, member or GUEST, that this one time, it might be best to stick to rhyme - give prose a rest. |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Amos Date: 04 Jan 04 - 02:07 PM
From idle snipers, and inanery From those who choose to spend their time Concocting reams of tepid rhyme; But most of all, from those who would Pervert a forum meant for good, And thus corrupt our faint divinity With foulness cloaked in anonymity! |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: akenaton Date: 04 Jan 04 - 02:23 PM Amos...Your more of a poet than a phylosopher. |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Cluin Date: 04 Jan 04 - 02:39 PM Nothing has changed at all. |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Amos Date: 04 Jan 04 - 02:43 PM Great line, there, Cluin! A |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: GUEST,Wolfgang Date: 04 Jan 04 - 03:34 PM Just to help Spaw, I repost Clinton's poem with the line breaks added at the proper places and one obviously missing word inserted: Only people who don't know any bet- ter think there's such a thing as internet anonymity...And well, how is posting as GUEST any different from posting under an obvious nick-name? TtR just needs something to whine and suck about...I mean, as I said elsewhere.. it's just the internet... Why make it seem to be important? Take only what you want, and leave the rest for someone elses hand). with a tiny bit more of extra effort, Clinton,... Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Clinton Hammond Date: 04 Jan 04 - 03:37 PM WG... ya gotta get a life eh.... ;-) |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 04 Jan 04 - 03:56 PM In other words, the bully pulpit that unaccountability on the net offers to the cronicly stupid is far more destructive than we are willing to acknowledge. I rhyme for fun, and I couldn't care less what it means to you. I appear gentle, because kicking the shite out of people just makes more trouble than it's worth, and does not inspire true genius... only reactive BS... which is about as valuable in the long run as a good spit in the wind. If it's your manhood that you are asserting here, well then... I'll take reality any day to this cyber-not atropy... this macho nonsense proves nothing but it's own negation.... unless you come around to the obvious point that... it is way more manly to create compassion and be real... Yes, even here on the net, where no one knows your true weaknesses... |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Rick Fielding Date: 04 Jan 04 - 04:12 PM I WAS gonna write sumthin' but the picture in my mind of Clinton as a female has put me off my feed. rick |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Clinton Hammond Date: 04 Jan 04 - 04:17 PM "does not inspire true genius" Like you'd know anything about it.... " it is way more manly to create compassion and be real..." When has reality ever been anything even close to compassionate? The point is, if ya don't like guests, get off Mudcat... |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 04 Jan 04 - 04:33 PM This forum ain't big enough for the two of us... get out of town before sunrise tomorrow, or you are gonna be pushin up daisys... ;^) Yeh, you're right Clinton... I don't know anything about it... I just get lucky sometimes and do it... and so do you. If you don't inspire people, then what do you do? ...lead the league in penalties? I do enjoy the guests sometimes... but flamers don't make this place excellent... or even interesting... WOW! Seattle Seahawks just got kicked out of the playoffs by a headful of dreads! Oh well maybe next year! |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Peace Date: 04 Jan 04 - 05:18 PM Calling a sheep a dog will not make it bark. (I have no idea what it means, but it seemed to fit.) |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 04 Jan 04 - 05:23 PM "Dysfunctional passive/aggressive personalities are richly rewarded here. That is why they stay and continue to multiply. No other folk forums on the internet will have them." Please post the URLs |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Guessed Date: 04 Jan 04 - 05:29 PM Calling a dance a "strip the willow" won't make it bark either. But it might make it enjoyable. if you want an open system you have to accept the crud. If you want a closed system "include me out". There is a long and well documented tradion (that makes it folk) of a certain perentage of the populace being misanthropic. They basically don't like themselves too much but love themselves too much. So they belittle those who seem to accept themselves warts and all. That way they feel a little more likeable by comparison. They are wrong. |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: pdq Date: 04 Jan 04 - 05:30 PM This will never be called Mudcat's finest hour. |