BS: For the Atkins Meat-Puppets

Subject: RE: BS: For the Atkins Meat-Puppets
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 05:37 PM

They're lying. They're lowering some of the carbs, but alcohol is converted into carbohydrates immediatly by the body, so the alcohol should be counted as a carb. They're not counting the aclohol, and they're not lowering the alcohol content.

Subject: RE: BS: For the Atkins Meat-Puppets
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 05:34 PM

But in response to the meat puppets cries, lots of beer companies over here are shilling low carb beer...

Subject: RE: BS: For the Atkins Meat-Puppets
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 05:27 PM

That diet would have lost popularity eventually. Beer has too many carbs.

Subject: RE: BS: For the Atkins Meat-Puppets
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 05:12 PM

I only copied and pasted because I was unable to find the specific url...

" All things should be taken in moderation—including moderation itself. "

Here here!

Subject: RE: BS: For the Atkins Meat-Puppets
From: Helen
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 05:10 PM

Guest, dear, go and do some research and see what the long-term eating plan is for the Atkins Diet. It is not as radical as many people choose to believe, when they don't check their facts before making definitive statements.

My hubby chooses to believe certain things about the Atkins Diet but stubbornly refuses to read the book, look it up on the 'Net, etc and stubbornly chooses to believe "someone who once told him blah blah blah".

Excuse my frustration here, but how can anyone discuss anything rationally without first checking the facts? :-|

Helen

Subject: RE: BS: For the Atkins Meat-Puppets
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 05:03 PM

And Euell Gibbons, television spokesman for Post Grape Nut cereal, and author of Stalking the Wild Asparagus and other books on foraging for natural foods is said to have died of "natural causes."

All things should be taken in moderation—including moderation itself.

Bon appetit,

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: For the Atkins Meat-Puppets
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 04:51 PM

The Atkins diet has proved very effective for a lot of people who had no success with other diets.

Has it? Short term, maybe. The jury is very much out on long term implications.

Subject: RE: BS: For the Atkins Meat-Puppets
From: Jeri
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 04:41 PM

I think it's a very likely thing that an anal-retentive personality can predispose one to a premature death.

In my opinion, any extreme diet can cause problems if one stays sticks to it faithfully for long enough. Extreme ANYTHING can cause problems. The Atkins diet has proved very effective for a lot of people who had no success with other diets. Falling over, however, is not something it's going to help much with. I also remember my family doctor telling me when I was 14 years old that I needed to lose 20 lbs. The doctor was at least 50 lbs overweight himself. Practicing what they preach has not ever been a consistent thing with doctors.

Subject: RE: BS: For the Atkins Meat-Puppets
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 04:28 PM

I thought that copying and pasting newspaper artices was banned here.

Subject: BS: For the Atkins Meat-Puppets
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 04:00 PM

The lessons of diet doctor doom
What's supposed to make you stronger can be a killer. HEATHER MALLICK explains why health's high command is cursed

By HEATHER MALLICK
Saturday, February 14, 2004 - Page F3

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Robert Atkins died last April after he slipped on some ice, struck his head and wound up in a coma. Now, it has been reliably reported that the man who persuaded millions to eat meat 'n' fat 'n' cheese 'n' eggs while just saying no to pasta and most vegetables left behind one fat corpse. His medical report says he weighed 258 pounds. He was obese.

His wife, Veronica, is screaming mad about the report, inconveniently released amid a huge marketing effort for Atkins-brand food. But since she wouldn't allow an autopsy at the time, there is nothing to back up the Atkins people's claims (see http://www.atkins.com) that the extra weight stemmed from a fluid buildup after the fall.

Other doctors have said sorry, people in comas don't bloat to such a degree. And one medical man who knew Dr. Atkins said he was 40 to 60 pounds overweight, "and I'm being kind." Furthermore, the fall may have been caused by a heart attack (he had had one before).

So was Dr. Atkins's death simply a predictable consequence of a delicious diet that makes no sense whatsoever? Or was it karma, because the Atkins Diet was actually "borrowed" goods? Apparently, the diet it is based on shows up about every 25 years. Fat people get all excited and a lot of animals die.

In the mid-19th century, reports Greg Critser, the amiable author of the best-selling Fat Land: How Americans Became the Fattest People in the World, reports that a Londoner named William Banting stood 5-foot-5 and weighed 202 pounds. He couldn't reach his shoes to tie them. Upon the advice of a doctor named William Harvey, he began to eat beef, mutton, kidney, fish, bacon and cold meat, and that was just for breakfast. The results were stunning, and Mr. Banting's shoes were nicely tied.

His publication, A Letter on Corpulence, proved to be the Atkins of its day, but some overheated adherents, including the would-be king of France, the huge Comte de Chambord, died of it.

So did the same fate befall Dr. Atkins. Or was he just the latest entry in the sad history of bossy people who get rich telling other people how to stuff their faces?

Let's call it the Diet Doctor Doom, a puddingy version of the Kennedy Curse.

Think of American jogging fanatic Jim Fixx, who died of a heart attack while jogging in 1984. He was only 52. Or how about soy-dust enthusiast Adele Davis, with her endless list of preventive vitamins? She died of bone cancer, admittedly in her 70s, but when you compare her to Frances Partridge, the Bloomsbury diarist who died this week at 103, it doesn't look good. Mrs. Partridge's philosophy was ample, delicious food and wine, clever conversation and, above all, good friends.

Could the spiritual pointlessness of sweating and counting calories explain Diet Doctor Doom? You get on a treadmill to nowhere. Then explain why legendary explorer Sir Ranulph Fiennes has just had a heart attack at 59. His book about his gleamingly healthy lifestyle is entitled Fit for Life, yet he has been diagnosed with coronary heart disease. His exercise was pointless too, though. He walked to both poles, dragging a sled behind him. No one knows why.

Or perhaps the fact that diet doctors tend to be autocratic is a factor in their untimely deaths. Remember Herman Tarnower and his low-carbohydrate, low-calorie, water-heavy, constant-hunger Scarsdale Diet? He wasn't an easy-going guy. Diet doctors issue orders and disobedient patients hide Mars bars under their pillows. Jean Harris, the girlfriend he had coldly discarded, shot him to death.

Diet Doctor Doom can hit diet devotees as well as doctors. Douglas Adams, brilliant author of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, died of a heart attack at 49 in his beautiful house in Malibu. He was surrounded by sun, money, love and the sound of crashing waves. But no, he had to get on his exercise bike. Authors don't even need to be fit. All they do is type.

And Sharon Stone's manic exercise routine, her personal trainer, her Pilates, led to her stroke. The blood clot did its work in her brain as she was training for a three-mile charity run.

But diet doctors really are odd ducks. On a terrible day in American history, here's how Dr. Atkins reacted. "In November, 1963, two things happened. I gained an awful lot of weight from Thanksgiving, and John F. Kennedy was murdered," he told an interviewer. "I was just sitting there watching television, watching all this sad stuff. And I made up my mind. I felt I had to do something. So I went on a diet."

Diet Doctor Doom. Maybe it's caused by a sense-of-humour failure.