BS: Road Rage

Subject: BS: Road Rage
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:20 PM

What pisses you off on the streets?

I'll Start
People who dive 20 KM under the speed limit untill you try to pass than speed up!

Raptor

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:22 PM

And these special parking places for people with kids, Why should they get speacial treatment, They chose that handicap!

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:23 PM

Tailgaters!

Can ya tell I had a shitty trip home today?

Raptor

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:24 PM

Assholes that flick lit cigarettes out thier window!

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:26 PM

People who throw food or food smelling garbage out the window!
(Causes Roadkill)

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:26 PM

People without mufflers

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:28 PM

Cell Phones

Who the hell is so important you can't wait to talk to untill you are safely out of the way?

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:29 PM

People who speed up to stop signs so fast you think they are gonna blow right through them and hit you!

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:29 PM

People who pass on the right!

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Amergin
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:30 PM

LOL....sounds like you had a good afternoon...

I hate tailgaters....in fact i when i get them i tend to slow down quite a bit...and hopefully go neck and neck with the fellow in the other lane (if it is a 4 lane highway)...pisses those wankers off.

I also hate people who get out of their car at stop lights to converse with people three cars behind them...nad then slowly amble back three green lights later.

and I hate those bastards talking on their cell phones when they're suppose to be minding the road.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:30 PM

Baby on frigging board signs!

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:31 PM

Lane swerving bastards!

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:32 PM

I think I'm done

How you doin Amergin?

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Once Famous
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:44 PM

Women who use their rear view mirror to put on makeup while driving.

Young women in general are very aggressive drivers and think that they own the road.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: 42
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:46 PM

looks like you're talking to yourself here buddy. stop and smell the roses.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:50 PM

When your annoyance turns to revenge then you become part of the rage problem...however there are some vengeful techniques out there. In the outback some jeeps have 40 million canddle power lights on their rollbar that will blind you. Or you could mount locomotive air horns behind your grille. Or an nice industrial laser. They instantly shatter any poloriazed tempered glass window in the cold.

If you are a real geek you could pass them and turn your projected hologram of a full size oncoming semitruck behind you.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: tartan babe
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 06:31 PM

I sometimes think that road rage is very similar to people flaming in internet communities.
Something about the annonymity of behind the wheel / monitor.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Phot
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 06:49 PM

The old biddy, driving a 427 Cobra, West bound on the M4, outside lane, at least 100+, red hot summers day.......Roof up! Jees! Old folks!! On my mothers grave tis true!

Wassail! Chris

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 06:53 PM

Too many to list over here. As my wife says Chinese do not learn to drive, they just learn to operate a car.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 06:56 PM

People who think that SPEED LIMIT means MINIMUM SPEED, and think your're the one who is breaking the law if you go the speed limit. (grrrr... )

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 07:02 PM

Actually I could list a number of things that *used* to bother the *old and unimproved* Bobert but as part of my *new and improved* new Bobert, I make an effort to block out rude drivin' in favor of just keepin' a watchful eye out fir folks who's bad driving is about to involve me in an accident... They wanta tailgate? Fine. Speed? Fine. Drive real slow. Fine. Well, kinda fine. Okay, not fine at all. But I ain't gonna get no rage over 'um...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 07:02 PM

People who get their knickers in a twist, and then drove around being angry at other road users.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 07:06 PM

Wow... MGoH and I agree on something...

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 07:15 PM

Slower traffic that doesn't keep right (I guess that would be 'keep left' in the UK).

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: maire-aine
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 07:22 PM

People who see the lane ahead closed for construction, but don't sqeeze over until the very last minute and then they expect you to let them in.

Maryanne

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: artbrooks
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 07:24 PM

People who drive past the line of people waiting patiently in the left-turn lane, and then expect to be let in up front.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 07:45 PM

Idiots with hockey flags out thier window.

(Untwisting my knickers!)Raptor

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: ranger1
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 07:58 PM

People who run red lights and stop signs.
People who eat things requiring a utensil while driving.
People who pull out immediately in front of you, do 10 mph and then turn off again 100 feet down the road.
People who don't understand the concept of yield or merge.
People who don't slow down in stowstorms.

And for the first time, I gotta agree with Martin Gibson on something. Female teen and early twenties drivers (especially those with blonde ponytails, for some reason) are extremely aggressive.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Gypsy
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 11:00 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..........howabout the areobonazis? You know, the bicycles that ride 3 abreast on our backcountry logging roads, because THEY are excercising? Or the power walkers in town, who also walk 3 abreast (yeah Spaw, usually wimmin, and wouldn't YOU like to see 3 abreast, hmmmmmmm?) in the MIDDLE of the freakin' road when im going to work? And refuse to move to the side?

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: LadyJean
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 11:58 PM

A MORAL TALE

One happy day in Kutztown PA, the heart of Amish country, an Amishman was clip clopping his buggy down a narrow country road at a brisk 10mph, with a line of cars behind him. One of the drivers wasn't used to central Pennsylvania, and started honking his horn to speed up the Amish driver. He went along annoying people for a while. Of course blowing your horn drains the battery, and OH YES! his died. Fortunately, there was space enough on the shoulder for him to pull over. So, he did. He sat there at the side of the road, while the other drivers passed him, slowly, each with a window down and a middle finger up. The friend who told me this story assures me that she had never given a middle finger salute before. But she felt it was appropriate for the occasion.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 04:43 AM

I must say I very rarely get annoyed while driving. Long ago I reasoned out that anyone lane-hopping or pushing in gains 30 seconds on their journey and looses a couple of months on their lives due to stress:-)

It is the driver that believes that whatever they are doing is more important than what you are doing that is guilty of most offences. Unfortunatley selfishness is endemic in our society today and not just in driving.

I must say though I do sometimes wish I could catch the driver of the BMW who has just cut me up and push my trolley in front of his in the supermarket queue:-)

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Deckman
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 06:19 AM

HEY. We must ALL BE NEIGHBORS!!!! I didn't know you folks lived in my town! Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 06:36 AM

One thing I find trying is, when I am are waiting at a roundabout for the traffic to let me get onto it, and a big vehicle pulls up on my right and completely obscures my view, so that I have to wait till they have gone before I can see when it's safe to go.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 04:34 PM

I agree with bobert.

leave a little earlier, drive a little slower and youll live alittle longer.

(it can be annoying if people attempt to cut in, while youre patiently in line, or at a red light theyre in the outside lane
ready to race and (illegally) change lanes in the intersection, cause theres a parked car coming up., change lanes about 10times in one block, all without signaling (and yet end up behind you after a few blocks - it can be annoying if you let it annoy you.

Id say resist the temptation to box someone in, or slowdown if they are tailgating you, or turn on your highbeams if you are tailgating them - Its not worth getting into an accident to prove a point.
(or getting into a scrap either)

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Megan L
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 05:05 PM

Why is it people (usually husbands) have to ruin a journey by giving a running comentary on some idiot driving in front of them.

A. if the person sitting beside them (usually wife) has a driving license then she isn't blind and can see what is happening
B. The other driver can't hear them so all they achieve is increase their own blood pressure and that of the poor soul forced to endure their usuelss diatribe.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: ranger1
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 06:50 PM

Actually, in my case, the running commentary is to my non-driving male partner, and it helps alleviate the road rage by releasing the pent-up hot air, thusly preventing inappropriate explosions. And poor, long suffering Jason has learned to tune out his woman's diatribes by not looking up from whatever he's reading.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 07:20 PM

something to try on a long road trip.
If your passenger is nodding off, lean over and ask
'Dyou want me to drive for a bit?'

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 09:59 AM

Many years ago I read about a driver who got a bit peeved at the driver behind who was standing on his horn (forget why) So she got out (you can tell this happened years ago before road rage & weapons hit the headlines) & looked all around her car - lights, tyres, etc. Then went back to the red faced, pop-eyed driver & said "Sorry, I can't see what's wrong."

Then last week here in Sydney a driver got out of his car at the lights to yell at another driver, & couldn't get back into his car - it had locked!!

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: mack/misophist
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 10:42 AM

How about people who cross the street where-ever they like, without reference to crosswalks, lights, or traffic; staring grimly ahead as if they were daring you to hit them? Or is that just a local thing?

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: GUEST,Hugh Jampton
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 10:57 AM

Why is it that the motor car, above everything else, brings out the worst in us? Heaven help us when pavement/sidewalk rage is just as common. I can see it now. Shopping malls filled with people, all at loggerheads one with another!!

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: el ted
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 11:17 AM

Interesting.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Midchuck
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 11:56 AM

This only happens in Vermont, I think:

Two guys, both in pickup trucks, driving opposite directions on a two-lane road. They recognize each other, and both just stop, driver's-side window next to driver's-side window, and proceed to have a conversation through the open windows. And nobody goes anywhere in either direction 'till they're done.

I swear I am not making this up.

Then there's the legion of dudes from New Jersey or the greater Boston part of Massachusetts who drive to and from the ski areas in large SUVs. None of them have the slightest inkling that, even in an SUV, you have to slow down to stay on the road when it's snowing. They tailgate in the snowstorm, and eventually whoosh past, setting up such a cloud of snow that you lose what little visibility you had. In a mile or two, you come by them in the ditch, and they think you're cruel and rude because you wave at them and keep going.

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Amos
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 12:36 PM

Ha ha ha!!

Peter, I can imagine the scene and the little smile as you whizz by waving! Living in Connecticut, on country roads, I found fancy city drivers were always my bane and vexation, until the first good snow fall of the year. The locals always remembered about snow, but the yuppies always forgot and ended up slewing into the ditches as they tried speeding up the hill in front of our house. Our living room would be full of stranded, sheepish drivers who always seemed surprised when the basic laws of physics caught up with them! :>)

A

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 01:38 PM

And then there is the matter of "sidewalk rage." Not everybody runs into this, at least, quite the way I do. But if you happen to be in a wheelchair. . . .

I have an electric wheelchair. I use a regular manual wheelchair around home and when I go someplace in the car (because the electric is too heavy to lift in and out of the car), but I use the electric when cruising the neighborhood. I have a shopping area a couple of blocks to my west and another one a couple of blocks to my east. Grocery stores, book stores, restaurants, a small shopping mall, etc.   And I can also make use of the local transit system because the buses all have wheelchair lifts (the manual says that on a full charge, the chair has a range of up to twenty-five miles—I also have a cell phone in case I get stuck somewhere; the only reason I have a cell phone).

Okay, with that established:   Seattle has been really good about putting wheelchair curb ramps in most areas. But skateboarders! You know: acne bedecked kids with permanent scowls, nose rings and a tongue stud, T-shirts bigger than most circus tents, their pants so low that the crotch is down where their knees are, with about six inches of butt-crack on public display—and an attitude. They rumble down crowded sidewalks at breakneck speed (if they would only break their own damned necks!) knocking children over, terrifying old ladies, and endangering everybody. They are under the impression that wheelchair curb ramps are there for their benefit, and more than once I have been sworn at for having the bad grace to be going up or down one when they wanted to use it, forcing them to break their flow. Why they don't outlaw sidewalk surfers, I don't know. They're a menace.

Cell phones. Oh, yes! People walk down the sidewalk with cell phones plastered to the side of their heads, and all the usual distractions that apply to drivers using cell phones also apply to pedestrians. I frequently encounter people striding blithely down the street, lost in conversation, completely unconscious of their immediate surroundings, and have had to yell loudly at them to keep them from winding up in my lap. It amazes me that they don't walk right into lamp posts more often than they do.

Dicing with drivers while in the wheelchair. The light is green and I'm about to zip down the curb ramp into the crosswalk. But just then, some numbskull pulls up to the red light just far enough into the crosswalk to block the curb ramp. And they just sit there. They see me sitting there with a scowl on my face, but it just doesn't occur to them that they're blocking the curb ramp. Other pedestrians can step off the curb and walk around the front of their car, but I can't, because the curb ramp is only about three feet wide, and if I were to proceed, I would ram them amidships.

Normally I'm a peaceable guy, dedicated to non-violence. But I remember the Aston-Martin DB5 that James Bond drove in "Goldfinger." It was equipped with .30 cal machine guns mounted under the front fenders. I sometimes look at my electric wheelchair and wonder about the possibilities. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Megan L
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 01:49 PM

Don i had to use a manual chair for a while you could do a Boudicca

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 02:36 PM

A Boudicca?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Megan L
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 02:38 PM

yeah she reputedly had knives stuck to the spokes of her charriot, great at crossings :)

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 03:08 PM

AHA!!! Thank you!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: mack/misophist
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 06:58 PM

I second the statement about cell phone users, Especially the ones who cross against the light while talking on the phone ane then scream at the hapless driver who had to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting them.

If you think cars are the only thing that bring on 'road rage'... I'm on a motorcycle. Many drive as if they didn't care if they hit us.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: artbrooks
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 07:19 PM

And then there are the skateboard riders who are talking on their cell phones....

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: ranger1
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 07:29 PM

Art, I've actually seen that done!

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: artbrooks
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 07:48 PM

I see it almost every day...often with a book bag hanging from the other arm. I am on the university campus here quite often, and scateboards have passed bicycles as a way to get between classes.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 07:49 PM

I saw something VERY strange and unusual the other day...I saw a motorcyclist who was stopping at stop signs, not sneaking between cars (inventing lanes where there are none) to get ahead ...and not even cutting in & out of traffic when there was a tiny gap!

Think I'm exaggerating? Not around here! (Wash DC area) In many ways, the bicyclists are even worse...they usually don't even acknowlege the existance of a stop sign, and they REFUSE to use bike paths, even when there are good ones, and will pedal along sedately on a 2 lane road in the park at 15 MPH in a 30 MPH zone, daring you to even THINK of passing them.

I know the rules about two-wheel vehicles, and I will give them their share of the road and treat them fairly.....why will so few of them do the same for me?

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Scoville
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 11:05 PM

Motorcyclists around here behave themselves pretty well, but it's probably because pick-up drivers run them over if they don't.

We have a big problem in my neighborhood, specifically, with bicyclists who don't obey traffic signs. I've very nearly run over several kids because they completely ignore stop signs, etc. Luckily, the speed limit is 20 so I'm never going so fast I can't stop, but it damn near gives me a heart attack.

There's a guy who drives a cable TV truck that I often find myself following on my way to work. He invariably drives 10 mph UNDER the speed limit and then runs red lights. I just don't understand.

I've also got issues with people driving more car than they can handle. I thought it was just because I was a tree-hugging, economy-car driving, liberal until I nearly got run over in a parking lot by a woman in a GMC Yukon Denali because she couldn't back it up. Lady, if you can't steer it, get something smaller.

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 09:45 AM

we have 'em all here - cyclists, mobile phone users, drivers putting om makeup or shaving or READING NEWSPAPERS!!, speedhogs, slowcoaches, hoons in fancy machines sharing their lack of musical taste with the whole world, the list goes on.

My special peeves - bicycle couriers who think 1. the pavement was invented for them, 2. they can zoom out from the pavement onto any spot on the road they want 3. road rules don't apply to them, they can go the opposite way to the cars (or even diagonally!!) - all this breaking several laws, but they still do it. (ps ordinary bike riders can do these things, but are not as obvious as the couriers)

Drivers using mobile phones (again, against the law & also dangerous) - & skateboarders!! We have a major intersection with a bus interchange next to the main railway station. The bus intersection is an island between heavily-used roads, but it has a pointy curve on one end that is a great place to launch out into the traffic! I think I aged 10 years the first time I saw a skateboarder launch himself up in the air & out on the road. No cars were close, but ...

What about a bit of pedestrian rage to even things up? I once scared 10 years off a driver's life & am so proud of it. This twit was turning around a corner, looking intently towards the on-coming traffic & completely ignoring the pavement. So I tapped on her car to remind her that there were pedestrians around too. I had completely crossed the 5-lane road when I heard a horn & turned back to see her still gripping her wheel!

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Coyote Breath
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 01:45 PM

Youngest daughter lost a close friend, motorcyclist. BMW with guy using cell phone ran stop sign. BMW was traveling 40 MPH in 25MPH zone. Friend on bike was traveling 45 MPH on main road with 45MPH limit. Bike went on to sidewalk on side road and killed an elderly man who was taking his evening stroll. Two dead. BMW guy cited for inattentive driving. No sentence as yet. "Accident" was last October.

Had two cars, racing, pass me. Me going 55MPH (posted limit) two cars around 90 plus. One passed me on the left the other on the right. Got the car's description and plate number at the next intersection light. Turned it over to the highway patrol.

heh heh heh!

Mark/misophist I ride a motorcycle too. All 4 wheel divers ARE out to kill you if at all possible! I figure if you accept that you'll live longer, keep the shiny side up!

CB

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Megan L
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 02:43 PM

Better still Amos lets make everyone use wheelchair they would be a lot less angry if life wasnt going so fast, pluss it would stop me getting a crick in my neck :)

Subject: RE: BS: Road Rage
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 04:42 PM

In yesterday's news:   woman driving down the road. Her cell phone rang. She took her eyes off the road and groped around on the seat beside her, trying to find the phone. She swerved out of her lane into the bike lane on her right and struck a bicyclist, throwing him eighty-five feet. He's alive, but in intensive care. So far, the woman has been cited for negligent driving.

I'm reminded of something that happened here some years ago near where I used to live. Busy street near an elementary school. Morning and afternoon (during rush hour), many kids from the school had to cross the busy street. Dangerous, because there was no stop light or stop sign at the crosswalk, and cars moved through the area pretty fast. Local residents, noting how dangerous it was for the kids, contacted, and later, petitioned the city engineer to put in a stop light. Several times they sent somebody out during the middle of the day (noonish or early afternoon) saw no kids and little traffic, and several times they decided a stop light wasn't necessary. Finally, when a couple of kids were struck and killed, they put in a stop light.

How long does it take and how many people have to get killed or injured before somebody does something about it?

Don Firth