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Bobert 30 Apr 04 - 08:14 PM
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Subject: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 08:14 PM

Well, here on the 1st anniversary of "Mission Accomplished" I figgured it would be nice to say some thing nice about George W. Bush so here goes...

...Nice landing, sir! Yup. Nice landing..

(Ahhhh, Bobert, Dubya wasn't pilotin' the plane...)

Opps, sorry, but hey, congrates Mr. George on accomplishin' that mission there, big guy...

(Ahhhh, Bobert. Nothing got accomplished and now Iraq is lookin' more and more like Viet Nam...)

Hmmmmm, this is gonna be tough. Oh, oh. I got one. Nice lieing about WMD, links to Al Quida, and all... I mean, that was some fine lieing. Put ol' Slick Willie to shame.

(Ahhhh, Bobert, that ain't exactly a nice thing to say...)

Well shoot, Mr George, I ain't into ties but if I was I'd have top say "NICE TIE, Sir"

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Amergin
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 08:19 PM

He has kindly provided the content to alot of threads here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 08:26 PM

He's probably made some people a bit more aware of the dangers involved in eating pretzels.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Jim McCallan
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 08:26 PM

Hindsight and foresight. Married together in two immortal words.

Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Amergin
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 08:27 PM

He has his own hair.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Amergin
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 08:28 PM

Bobert secretly worships him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 08:46 PM

He gets a pleasantly bemused look on his face when one splats him over and over and over on the Presidential Knockout site. That takes talent, surely?


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 08:50 PM

He's got a nice backyard

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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 08:50 PM

Bad, Amerigin, bad...

Now say yer sorry! Hmmmmphhhhhh!...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Peace
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 09:23 PM

He's very intelligent looking?


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From: freda underhill
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 09:25 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Amergin
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 09:29 PM

Sure he's intelligent looking....if you're from alabama....


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Amergin
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 09:44 PM

Oh and Bobert...we all know you secretly have an altar to Bush in a backroom...You got picture of him in uniform...and the action figure...and everything....You also have talking Bush dolls...that you set afire...so you can hear voices coming from a burning Bush....


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Jim McCallan
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 09:46 PM

... and a healthy supply of pins, I would think, as well!

Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 09:53 PM

Actually the only doll I have is of a much greater American that Junior could ver be: Alfred E. Newman! Now there's guy worth my attention! No, not that way, gol dangit...

What-Me-Worry?

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Amergin
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 09:55 PM

I see... and i thought Kendall with his love affair with Rama Llama was bad...


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 09:59 PM

I decided that punching the idjit was much more satisfying than sticking him with pins...


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Blackcatter
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 10:16 PM

He made us forget about Dan Quayle.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Amos
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 10:29 PM

He is better informed than an average 6th grade student, and he seems to have more friends than the average serial killer.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 10:32 PM

I love the one I read awhile back...

"Bush is a 'post turtle'"...
"Huh?....what's a post turtle?"
"Well, did you ever go walkin' along see a turtle balanced on a fence post? You know he didn't get up there by himself-- he doesn't belong up there--and he has no idea what he is supposed to be doing up there. You just want to help him get down!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: mmm1a
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 10:42 PM

I don't have one nice thing to say about gw except I hope the next 4 years He stays in freaking Texas. Kind of funny that this is a short thread, I hope the hell this means everyone is sick of him and will vote him out of office.

   mmm1a (by no means a fan of gw or his daddy )


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Bev and Jerry
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 11:01 PM

He's accomplished something no one has ever been able to do. He united the Sunis and the Shiites.

Bev and Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 11:04 PM

...and hes has changed the tone in Washington... Too bad he didn't promise to make it more positive...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Blackcatter
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 11:30 PM

He's proved that even "C" students came become president - of course that millionaire-politically connected "C" students.

He also never killed anyone while drinking, being coked up and driving.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 11:30 PM

He's not Dick Cheney.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Jim McCallan
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 11:35 PM

Smoother than Jameson, and it knocks the socks off of Tullamore Dew.

Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 11:39 PM

From a friend: "Democrats are reputed not to be humorous but they sure can be ironic."


It Is Tough Being a Republican

It is very tough to be a Republican in 2004, because somehow, you have to believe concurrently that:

1. Jesus loves you, but shares your deep hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.

2. The United States should get out of the United Nations, but our highest national priority is enforcing U. N. resolutions against Iraq.

3."Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers and moving their jobs to India.

4. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all humankind without regulation.

5. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.

6. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

7. Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins, unless you someday run for governor of California as a Republican.

8. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

9. A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, but then demand their cooperation and money.

10. HMOs and insurance companies make profits and have the interest of the public at heart.

11. Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.

12. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools.

13. It is okay that the Bush family's "Carlisle Group" has done millions of business with the Bin Laden family.

14. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him and Rumsfeld reassured him he was our buddy, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, but then a bad guy again when Bush junior needed a prop for his re-election campaign as the "war president"

15. A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense. A president lying about WMD existence, to enlist support for an unprovoked, undeclared war and occupation, in which thousands soldiers and civilians die, is, somehow, solid "defense" policy in a "War against Terrorism".

16. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which should include "banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet".

17. The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's Harken Oil stock trade should be sealed in his Daddy's library, and is none of our business.

18. What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s was of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.

19. Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a "spirit of international harmony".

20. Affirmative Action is wrong, but that it is OK for your Daddy and His friends (here and in Saudi Arabia) to get you to graduate from Yale without studying much, to dodge the draft in the Texas Air National Guard, to bail out your company Harken Oil and the Texas Rangers, to get the Governorship of Texas and then to have the Supreme Court appoint you President of the USA.

21. You are a conservative, but it is OK to spend like there is no tomorrow and run up deficits that your grandchildren will have to pay, while at the same refunding as much tax money as possible to rich people who do not need it.

This illogical behavior can take a toll on a healthy mind.

So if a friend of yours has been acting a bit dazed and confused lately, be nice: he or she may be a Republican!


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: GUEST,Cruiser
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 11:46 PM

"George Bush -- struggling with business failures and a drinking problem -- made a life-altering decision in the 1980s after spending a weekend with longtime family friend Billy Graham: "It was the beginning of a new walk where I would recommit my heart to Jesus Christ,"


I guess you have to give him credit from going from near bankruptcy, alchoholism, and drug use to become the "leader of world".

Outrageous!


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 11:56 PM

oh my! SRS!! That is a list that goes straight to my heart!...I PROMISE I will be sure to be understanding to my conservative Republican friends when I see them mumbling about 'brain-strain' as they try to swallow the WHOLE thing!


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 04 - 12:02 AM

SRS: you have given a whole new meaning to compassion about conservatism!! Like, "Forgive them father for they know not..."

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: LadyJean
Date: 01 May 04 - 12:04 AM

George W Bush has mobilized thousands of Americans! We're all working hard to send him back to Texas. He's given organizations like Democracy for America and MoveOn.org a real boost. Thousands of non voters are registering, so they can vote for his opponents. Many of us owe him a huge debt of gratitdude.
Then, George W. has never called himself a facist, so I sometimes suspect he isn't one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Jim McCallan
Date: 01 May 04 - 12:13 AM

Are a lot of non-voters now registering, LadyJean?
I had been wondering about this myself, for a while, but never got around to searching for any info, or statistics...

Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 May 04 - 04:02 AM

I kind of expected DougR in here to list the bushie's admirable traits. Probably like the bush, he wasn't warned he would be asked the question so that he could study up on it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Cluin
Date: 01 May 04 - 04:15 AM

He hasn't gotten into a circle-jerk with Gaddafi and Blair yet, not exactly.

Though I'm sure it's coming.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: GUEST
Date: 01 May 04 - 08:03 AM

Well, I think saying that he has united Shia and Shiite is a bit of an overstatement. I think it would be more accurate to say, it appears Bush at the very least, got them sharing ammunition.

Another nice thing to say about Bush...

...eventually he will die.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 May 04 - 08:33 AM

He looks way more normal than Michael Jackson...


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From: mack/misophist
Date: 01 May 04 - 08:48 AM

This talk of sending the shrub back to Texas has me confused. Why should Texas want him? I'm sure the Iraqis have an empty cell he could be stored in.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 May 04 - 06:20 PM

He looks more normal than Kerry too, come to think of it...

I've been playing the Bush vs Kerry boxing game, and I actually prefer punching out Kerry for some reason. It's his dopy looking face with the loooong chin, I just want to smack it. It reminds me of Brian Mulroney (former Canadian Prime Minister in the 1980's).


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 04 - 09:59 PM

Well, he looks more preppie than Kerry, but that's deceiving. He's actually a good ole boy. Well, maybe _that's_ deceiving; possibly he's actually a blue-blood from Stamford, Connecticut, but that could be deceiving, if he's really an oil guy from Midlands -- but that could be deceiving...


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 02 May 04 - 12:28 PM

Never unsure. Seldom right.


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From: Shimbo Darktree
Date: 02 May 04 - 12:46 PM

Australia has an election looming in the next 12 months (or so), and Dubya has demonstrated that, yet again, our Liberal leaders have a rectal fetish when it comes to American presidents. Hopefully, it will be enough to send our Prime Minister (the little bloke who was with Bush and Blair, and didn't get a mention) off to retirement, and that, dear readers, will be something good that Mr Bush has done.

Ever the optimist,

Shimbo


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: GUEST
Date: 02 May 04 - 01:03 PM

Well Shimbo, I don't know how our elections will end up influencing yours, if at all. But it is looking more and more like Kerry will never win this election. Not because Bush isn't beatable, but because Kerry is unelectable.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Amos
Date: 02 May 04 - 01:18 PM

Disagree. He's electable in ways and for reasons that Bush isn't. I find your absolutism offputting.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: dianavan
Date: 02 May 04 - 01:22 PM

He has the decency to remove his KKK hood before press conferences.

He has learned to stop thrusting his tongue like a snake.

He knows how to invent truth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 May 04 - 10:02 PM

He had the good sense to marry a librarian.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 May 04 - 12:31 AM

But the librarian had the lapse in judgement to marry him, Rap. That diminishes the credit he might otherwise get.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Amergin
Date: 03 May 04 - 02:38 AM

He makes a great puppet...and Cheney a great ventriloquist...


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 03 May 04 - 03:39 AM

Still thinking...


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 03 May 04 - 01:55 PM

International terrorism is at its lowest rate in the past 20 years. (190 in 2003 vs 346 in 2001 per State Department)

(But we can't credit Bush- that would have happened by itself)

Interest rates are at an all time low

(But we can't credit Bush- the Banks are responsible)

Inflation is at an all time low

(But we can't credit Bush- that's due to Alan Greenspan)

The Taliban and Sadaam are no longer in power

(Yes- but it's Bush's fault that we lost 1,000 lives in doing so)

He is going to be re-selected

(Let's blame Nader, Kerry, McAuliffe, Clinton, stupid americans, and the vast right wing conspiracy.    We can throw in Sprio Agnew too- it has nothing to do with Bush) (and lets make sure we keep bringing up the 2000 election to really piss off the independants)

The only thing I can't agree with Bobert on is the tie.   I just attended the Len Roller media class.   Best media class in the country.   Both Len and Jack Popejoy (winner of 24 Golden Mic awards) agreed that the tie that Bush wore to the press conference was the worst tie in the history of media.    Neither could believe his aides would let him wear that tie.   I trust their opinions on this subject.   Therefore, I can't praise Bush on his choice of ties.   You will have to come up with something better.   At least he doesn't fall of bicyles.   Now if we can only teach him how to eat pretzels.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Amos
Date: 03 May 04 - 02:16 PM

Excuse me? International terrorism is at an all time low? The murder of four contractors, the endless RPGs and roadside IEDs in Iraq -- these don't count? How about the inadvertent murder of civilians? Not acts of terrorism? This is a pretty suspect assertion; from some viewpoints a lot of the terror in the last two years has been born right between the burning hot earlobes of Resident Butch.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Chief Chaos
Date: 03 May 04 - 02:47 PM

I watched him answer a question the other day. He looked so lost and irritated. Then he finally managed to wrap it all up saying that in the end it would make it all more secure. As he said the last he got this real smug look on his face with that little smirk of his.

Momma said: If you can't say something nice, don't say nothin' at all.

Sorry momma!


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 May 04 - 04:14 PM

Interest rates are at an all-time low and this is good? Hell, it's not good for people who have savings in the bank, but can't earn enough on those savings to buy a jar of pickles. Interest rate return on monetary savings is criminally low at the present time. It appears that the Sy$tem doesn't WANT people to save money any more...just run out and spend it all please, and charge the excess on your credit card! Go broke now, pay for it later. Sounds like just what the government and industry like to do with the natural environment.

Not that I blame Bush for that, Larry K, I'm just questioning your line of reasoning.

As for terrorism, the number one effective proponents of that in the World today are the US military, the CIA, the forces of Israel, and the various Palestinian forces opposing Israel. I don't see them reducing their level of it at all. Al Queda is having a little difficulty keeping up with the above parties at the moment, because they are sort of "out of the loop" if you know what I mean...

I guess you're one of those people who only identifies attacks by certain people whom you have labelled as "the bad guys" as terrorism, eh? It's a shame they couldn't all wear black hats and Saddam moustaches so we would know for sure when we saw them, and could cheer and boo accordingly.

People whose families are killed by a rocket or bomb get just as mad when it's fired by an Israeli helicopter or an American jet as they do when it's done by a Hamas guerilla fighter. It's all terrorism.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 May 04 - 12:36 PM

Still thinking...


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 May 04 - 12:48 PM

He doesn't have illicit sex with various female interns and other numerous associates in the Oval Office, or behind the bushes on the White House lawn, or in the elevator between floors, or on top of the dining room table in the green room, or hanging from the chandelier, or in the limousine on the way to the next press conference, or in the closet at the convention center, or while snowboarding at Whistler...

One thing about old Bill, he was never one to miss an opportunity. :-)

I think that George W is an example of propriety in this area that does the nation proud!

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: dianavan
Date: 04 May 04 - 01:28 PM

Little Hawk - Maybe there is a physical reason for his propriety.

Maybe thats why he chooses to "prove his manhood" in the arena of war.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Chief Chaos
Date: 04 May 04 - 01:44 PM

That's a hell of an over compensation there!
Bill liked the ladies that's for sure.
I think the Pres. is more interested in the good old greenback and the black gold Texas Tea!


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 04 May 04 - 03:33 PM

Little Hawk:

New home buying is at an all time high which is good for the economy.   The main reason for that is low interest rates.    This is especially good for new home buyers or people with limited funds who want to buy a new home.    When I bought my first home in 1978 (Carter was president) interest rates were 17%.    That made it very hard to make ends meet.    My investments went up about 20-30% last years after two bad years.    This year they are also up.    It you are keeping money in an interest bearing checking account at minimal interest that is your own fault.

All far as terrorism statistics- the numbers are the numbers.   They were in the news a few days ago in a report from the State Department.   The number of international terrorist attacks in 2003 was half of that in 2001 and the deaths from terrorism in 2003 was the lowest levels since 1969.   You can disagree with the numbers but that still doesn't change them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: dianavan
Date: 04 May 04 - 09:07 PM

Little Hawk - Beware of this statement: This is especially good for new home buyers or people with limited funds who want to buy a new home.

It should be qualified with the warning: until interest rates go up or you lose that so-called secure job.

The economy is nothing anyone can predict. If Bush remains in power, investor confidence could reach an all time low. I've already been told that my investments in the U.S. are too unstable and that I should re-invest. I'm not sure how that plays out in real estate but my guess is that the low interest rates are there to bolster a dollar thats in big trouble.

You're right about one thing, Little Hawk, it is not a good idea to let your money sit in a savings account. Our economy does not value saving at all. Better to invest in a retirement savings plan. You will need it sooner than you think. Or maybe look at other options that your bank might have available. If you don't find a satisfying solution - shop around. Believe it or not, banks want your business. They are not doing you a big favour by letting your money sit in their bank. They are, in fact, using it.

Since this whole banking issue has arisen - I would like to caution all of you about how your bank invests your money. Look into it. You may unwittingly be contributing to the war chest. Make sure your funds are invested ethically!


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 May 04 - 09:43 PM

No, Larry K, what I do is invest my funds...because interest rates are so low that it's not worth keeping them in a savings account. Example: about a year ago I invested a substantial amount in gold, because I suspected it would go up. It did...by 20%. I sold that gold a year later and made 20% on that money instead of the 1% the bank would have given me. The deal, old pal, is...buy low and sell high. You just have to buy at the right time (tricky) and then be PATIENT! (most people are not very patient, and they don't have any extra cash because they are in the habit of spending it all as quickly as they make it.)

(By the way, gold isn't worth more since a year ago...the US dollar is worth less. A lot less.)

I understand your point about interest rates, and I do not wholly disagree with it, but do you understand mine? I think a fair return for bank deposits, given a normal situation in society would be from say, 7% to 10% annually. That's why I say that the present rates are criminally low, and are encouraging people not to save money, and are oppressing old retired people who can't afford fancy lawyers and accountants.

Of course there are other options to making money with money.

I was not wholly contradicting what you said, you see, I was offering an alternate viewpoint and modifying it. It is not necessary for one of us to be completely right and the other completely wrong in order to have a worthwhile discussion about something. Quite the contrary.

As for the terrorism, I consider the US armed forces to be engaged in ongoing terrorism of their own which has resulted in the death of a whole lot of people, but you don't. That's where we differ on that one...as I'm sure you are aware. I think the Israelis (and their many opponents) also deal in terrorism on a regular basis...they attack people, seeking to terrify them into submission. That's terrorism. It's been happening since before 1948, in the case of the Jewish-Palestinian conflict. The British authorities in Palestine in the late '40's referred to the Jewish efforts to found an Israeli state as terrorism, because that's exactly what it was. The Jews won. That enabled them to don uniforms and hide themselves behind the fig leaf of a flag and a national government. I'm not impressed. Killing people and taking their land is still terrorism regardless...as are the Arab attempts to eradicate the state of Israel. It's possible for people to live together, given a little sanity and goodwill. Terrorists aren't interested in that approach, and they always say, "Well, they attacked us FIRST, so we're justified in killing them." I don't buy it.

In truth, they couldn't care less about who attacked who first. They care only about winning.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Bobert
Date: 04 May 04 - 09:45 PM

Laary K,

First of all what ever you're smokin', I'd like some... Whew...

You certainly get a gold star fir twisting around disaster into high times....

Under yer guy:

*** the overall number of number (as well as per capita) number of olks who live in poverty has increased over 10%.

*** the number of children who used to get one square meal a day from governemtn programs has been cut by close to 5,000,000.

*** inflation numbers have been so manipulated that real people, who apparently you are not, just rasie their eyebrows when they hear this claim since health insurance has increased 20% under yer guy, perscription drugs have incresed 20% under your guy, local taxes have increased 15% under your guy, etc. So lets get real, pal.

*** states are strapped for cash as a result of the big tax giveaway to the rich under yer guy... Do you have any any idea how many states were effected negatively by yer guy's tax cuts? Like 100% Even yer guy in Califoenia has had to float a $15B bond referendum to cover costs of running California after his guys glutted the budget. Whom pays for that, pal?

Now if you want to turn this thread into a Bush bashing thread, fine. I started it and its fine with me. Even tho I might not have anything real warm and fuzzy to say about yer guy I thought some other folks might but lets keep things in perspective as to yer guys actual accomplishments...

But, hey, nice tie....

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Guessed
Date: 05 May 04 - 08:06 AM

Bush George President

you can compare and buy it on eBay

it says so below right now. My bid is one penny (US)


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Stu
Date: 05 May 04 - 09:42 AM

I think a nice thing about George Bush is that if you're a large American Corporation you can donate tons of cash to his presidential campaign/republican party coffers, and he'll act in your interests, right or wrong, so you can make even more cash. How thoughtful!


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 05 May 04 - 11:51 AM

Still thinking...


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: GUEST,jaze
Date: 05 May 04 - 07:48 PM

I know ! I know!....he taught us a new pronunciation for "nuclear"!


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Duane D.
Date: 10 May 04 - 03:41 PM

He taught me not waste gasoline.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 May 04 - 04:19 PM

Doug R likes him. This would normally be good, but...


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Amos
Date: 10 May 04 - 04:45 PM

One of my friends likes him... but he was driven mad by his experiences in the war.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Cluin
Date: 11 May 04 - 02:23 PM

He has better judgement re: his afternoon trysts. If he has a hankerin' for some chubby-cheeked noggin at the office, at least he knows how to pick an intern who keeps her mouth shut the rest of the time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: GUEST
Date: 11 May 04 - 02:44 PM

he likes the taste of buns....


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 11 May 04 - 03:07 PM

Er... he hasn't any sons, does he? If so, the line stops with him (just the name, though, not the genes...bugger it)


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 11 May 04 - 08:59 PM

So far there is no direct evidence that he has abused his dog.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: dianavan
Date: 11 May 04 - 09:52 PM

He hid the blue dress he was wearing when he and Rummy...


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Bobert
Date: 11 May 04 - 10:03 PM

Shoot, d-, I was gonna do a Rumsey post. Oh well, snooze, ya looze...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 May 04 - 01:25 AM

After a while he will get old and he'll . . . yup. He will.

Boy, am I pissed off at the lot of them today. This year. This decade. This century. . . let's see, the U.S. is attacked by 19 men, mostly from Saudi Arabia. So Bush pisses the moslem world off even more when he blasts Afghanistan to hell and back, then goes to Iraq on a fabricated (wild-goose) chase. Now he's aiming at Syria:

    The Bush administration announced sanctions against Syria Tuesday, including a ban on exports and a freeze on certain Syrian assets.

    In a statement announcing the sanctions, President George W. Bush accused Syria of "supporting terrorism, continuing its occupation of Lebanon, pursuing weapons of mass destruction and missile programs, and undermining United States and international efforts with respect to the stabilization and reconstruction of Iraq ... ."

    The sanctions prevent the export to Syria of military or dual-use items and U.S. products others than food and medicine. It also prevents Syrian aircraft from taking off or landing in the United States. U.S. banks must cut ties with the Commercial Bank of Syria due to money-laundering concerns, and the U.S. assets of certain Syrian individuals and government entities will be frozen.


This man has mentally fallen and he can't get up. He grabbed the edge of the world's table cloth and he's pulling the whole damned mess down on top of US.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Nice Things to Say about Bush...
From: dianavan
Date: 12 May 04 - 02:20 AM

Bobert - I'm sure you are more imaginative than I. Go for it. I can think of a few well-chosen slurs but I will leave it to you. Over...


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